The player count of this game proves we need a change.

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The main thing keeping me from playing is RPG / Mine being zero skill 140 damage nukes.

What do we need to change / add to make this game more worth playing?

Id personally LOVE to see a passive ability slot to make the game more customizeable in a players experience they want to have.

We can ♥♥♥♥ on call of duty for how bad of a game it has been since it was on OG xbox but honestly.. their passive ability slots were a great mechanic that opened up the game a lot for different playstyles. Giving player agency helps games a lot. Same concept as giving players nice cosmetics to equip. People want to feel like they are in control of their experience.

Also why RPG / Mine are so blatantly overpowered. Because forcing someone to be full health 100% of the time isnt even remotely reasonable in a FPS game where you have 3 OTHER teams of 3 fighting you. When a nuke does this much damage it does the opposite of give players agency. It PUNISHES players for making a choice to play one of the 3 classes there are in the game.

Now, if there were 15 classes and only 1 werent viable. Sure. Whatever.

But when 33% of classes arent viable because heavy players 'HAVE TO' have an instant-delete, zero skill required crutch or else they will cry.. thats when it becomes a problem.

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The devs are honestly just incompetent and there is very little they can do to fix this pile of garbage they've created. Think about this. Heavy has been nerfed like 29 times since the launch of the game and at diamond the only viable comp is HHM. They have and had ABSOLUTELY no clue how to balance this game and the only way it couldve been saved is if they hired a third party to come in for balancing. Some games die like this and its unfortunate. Is what it is tbh

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Originally posted by Blizzard did 911:

The devs are honestly just incompetent and there is very little they can do to fix this pile of garbage they've created. Think about this. Heavy has been nerfed like 29 times since the launch of the game and at diamond the only viable comp is HHM. They have and had ABSOLUTELY no clue how to balance this game and the only way it couldve been saved is if they hired a third party to come in for balancing. Some games die like this and its unfortunate. Is what it is tbh

The thing that gets me is how overtly obvious these nerfs being needed are.

how do they not know RPG is blatantly and overtly overpowered? Seriously.

Its like the devs are the same heavy / medium mains we see on the forums who cant care less that only 2 classes are especially viable in ranked. Being a heavy / medium main who doesnt care about light being viable makes a lot more sense if youre just a misguided, 0% empathy child; but not when youre a game dev who SHOULD CARE that only 2 of your 3 classes are viable in ranked.

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Originally posted by Prophylaxis:

Originally posted by Blizzard did 911:

The devs are honestly just incompetent and there is very little they can do to fix this pile of garbage they've created. Think about this. Heavy has been nerfed like 29 times since the launch of the game and at diamond the only viable comp is HHM. They have and had ABSOLUTELY no clue how to balance this game and the only way it couldve been saved is if they hired a third party to come in for balancing. Some games die like this and its unfortunate. Is what it is tbh

The thing that gets me is how overtly obvious these nerfs being needed are.

how do they not know RPG is blatantly and overtly overpowered? Seriously.

Its like the devs are the same heavy / medium mains we see on the forums who cant care less that only 2 classes are especially viable in ranked. Being a heavy / medium main who doesnt care about light being viable makes a lot more sense if youre just a misguided, 0% empathy child; but not when youre a game dev who SHOULD CARE that only 2 of your 3 classes are viable in ranked.

In all seriousness its as simple as incompetency.

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Originally posted by Blizzard did 911:

Originally posted by Prophylaxis:

The thing that gets me is how overtly obvious these nerfs being needed are.

how do they not know RPG is blatantly and overtly overpowered? Seriously.

Its like the devs are the same heavy / medium mains we see on the forums who cant care less that only 2 classes are especially viable in ranked. Being a heavy / medium main who doesnt care about light being viable makes a lot more sense if youre just a misguided, 0% empathy child; but not when youre a game dev who SHOULD CARE that only 2 of your 3 classes are viable in ranked.

In all seriousness its as simple as incompetency.

Its seriously so overtly obvious how overpowered this RPG is. Mine is pretty gross too but how in the heck do they not notice RPG being OPPRESSIVELY overpowered to the point 1 class isnt especially viable?

Its wild.

I promise you if there were a hero in dota 2 that dealt so much damage with 1 single click that a SINGLE autoattack more would kill their enemy people would flip ♥♥♥♥. Then again dota players actually understand balance and care that ALL heroes are balanced not just 'their favsies' like the average heavy / medium main forum user on these forums.

Even when a hero does have a huge nuke you still have to throw multiple spells AND multiple autoattacks to kill someone.

Its so far past being 'overpowered balance' its sincerely bizarre I even have to post about it. Wild stuff.

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Originally posted by Prophylaxis:

Originally posted by Blizzard did 911:

The devs are honestly just incompetent and there is very little they can do to fix this pile of garbage they've created. Think about this. Heavy has been nerfed like 29 times since the launch of the game and at diamond the only viable comp is HHM. They have and had ABSOLUTELY no clue how to balance this game and the only way it couldve been saved is if they hired a third party to come in for balancing. Some games die like this and its unfortunate. Is what it is tbh

The thing that gets me is how overtly obvious these nerfs being needed are.

how do they not know RPG is blatantly and overtly overpowered? Seriously.

Its like the devs are the same heavy / medium mains we see on the forums who cant care less that only 2 classes are especially viable in ranked. Being a heavy / medium main who doesnt care about light being viable makes a lot more sense if youre just a misguided, 0% empathy child; but not when youre a game dev who SHOULD CARE that only 2 of your 3 classes are viable in ranked.

rpg is not op, 3 are viable the only one who says otherwise is you, plz stop making new post talking about anything and then change the subject to lights like you do with all youre posts. and stop playing light if you are that bad.

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Originally posted by |Sec9|B0nd3nucc:

Originally posted by Prophylaxis:

The thing that gets me is how overtly obvious these nerfs being needed are.

how do they not know RPG is blatantly and overtly overpowered? Seriously.

Its like the devs are the same heavy / medium mains we see on the forums who cant care less that only 2 classes are especially viable in ranked. Being a heavy / medium main who doesnt care about light being viable makes a lot more sense if youre just a misguided, 0% empathy child; but not when youre a game dev who SHOULD CARE that only 2 of your 3 classes are viable in ranked.

rpg is not op, 3 are viable the only one who says otherwise is you, plz stop making new post talking about anything and then change the subject to lights like you do with all youre posts. and stop playing light if you are that bad.

We found the heavy main. Btw I play all 3 at diamond 3 and heavy is BY FAR the easiest and winningest. All of the diamond teams i go against are HHM. RPG is OP if you think it isnt you must only play power shift or youre bronze...which is fine, but it is what it is

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Originally posted by Blizzard did 911:

Originally posted by |Sec9|B0nd3nucc:

rpg is not op, 3 are viable the only one who says otherwise is you, plz stop making new post talking about anything and then change the subject to lights like you do with all youre posts. and stop playing light if you are that bad.

We found the heavy main. Btw I play all 3 at diamond 3 and heavy is BY FAR the easiest and winningest. All of the diamond teams i go against are HHM. RPG is OP if you think it isnt you must only play power shift or youre bronze...which is fine, but it is what it is

you know that he post like a new discussion like almost every day talking about like one thing about the game like for example he wants like passive abilitys, and ofc are the passive he comes up with are only to help lights against gas, fire, rpg, mines, shotguns, and after a few responses it all goes back to i cant take 10 dmg, cuz im dead. and he goes on and on about how rpg are op mines are op since he cant see them since he is always under falling houses with bullets flying around him all the time while he has a gangbang with 9 players. so after awhile you just get super annoyed by his post.

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i dunno, 300,000 daily logins seems like pretty good numbers to me

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Originally posted by Betamax Bandit:

Originally posted by Blizzard did 911:

The devs are honestly just incompetent and there is very little they can do to fix this pile of garbage they've created. Think about this. Heavy has been nerfed like 29 times since the launch of the game and at diamond the only viable comp is HHM. They have and had ABSOLUTELY no clue how to balance this game and the only way it couldve been saved is if they hired a third party to come in for balancing. Some games die like this and its unfortunate. Is what it is tbh

^ prophylaxis has a smurf account :P

Lol you think Im making a new account just to agree with myself? XD What a wild claim.

EDIT: Looked at his account. I see why you might think that NGL. Level 0 account with 1 friend. Lols.

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Originally posted by mccluckers:

i dunno, 300,000 daily logins seems like pretty good numbers to me

Steam Charts.

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Originally posted by Prophylaxis:

Originally posted by Betamax Bandit:

^ prophylaxis has a smurf account :P

Lol you think Im making a new account just to agree with myself? XD What a wild claim.

EDIT: Looked at his account. I see why you might think that NGL. Level 0 account with 1 friend. Lols.

yeah that seems like a you thing to do.

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Originally posted by Prophylaxis:

Originally posted by mccluckers:

i dunno, 300,000 daily logins seems like pretty good numbers to me

Steam Charts.

yeah but... the game exists on other platforms...? also if theres 14k concurrent players... is it hard to believe that 300k people launch the game each day across all platforms?

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Originally posted by |Sec9|B0nd3nucc:

Originally posted by Prophylaxis:

Lol you think Im making a new account just to agree with myself? XD What a wild claim.

EDIT: Looked at his account. I see why you might think that NGL. Level 0 account with 1 friend. Lols.

yeah that seems like a you thing to do.

This coming from the guy who literally thinks being at 10 health is the same as being at 140 health because you spend zero time actually reading posts. Or being a genuine participant in them.

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Originally posted by mccluckers:

Originally posted by Prophylaxis:

Steam Charts.

yeah but... the game exists on other platforms...? also if theres 14k concurrent players... is it hard to believe that 300k people launch the game each day across all platforms?

Reading a graph is hard, I get it.

See that player count number going DOWN constantly and consistently over time? Thats a BAD thing. Hope this helps.

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Originally posted by Prophylaxis:

Originally posted by mccluckers:

yeah but... the game exists on other platforms...? also if theres 14k concurrent players... is it hard to believe that 300k people launch the game each day across all platforms?

Reading a graph is hard, I get it.

See that player count number going DOWN constantly and consistently over time? Thats a BAD thing. Hope this helps.

Try rereading the words I wrote because I didn't say anything incorrect. All I said was they have 300k players every day - I never said the graph wasn't going down. I'm not denying that.. but keep grasping at straws, and putting words into my mouth, lmfao. You don't have to believe it, you can keep coping if you want (i know you enjoy it) but Embark themselves told us they haven't dropped below 300k daily unique logins SINCE the game launched. I know you'd rather ignore that however because making up stories helps you feel better about dying to explosions in an FPS game....