not a surprise this game is dead

[Raaphh]

you can look through every one of my posts on here that this game would die shortly after launch.
No real path forward to deal with cheaters besides the obvious strat that these type of games in general need to be behind heavy pay walls.

The movement feels gross especially if you literally played apex or warzone before opening this. Movement feels floaty , no speed to it.

its not a mystery anymore why this group got pushed out of DICE.

[mccluckers]

define dead

[Raaphh]

people waiting 2 to 3 min for ranked matches. that means you have a dead pool of players.

The fact you're saying "define dead" for a game with less than 12k playing it from its peak NOT EVEN 6months ago of nearly 300k players.

thats a dead game, but makes sense, you play hunt showdown.

[Fizz]

Needs chat. Every game feels like you are playing vs npc's. Let us chat with other players.

[Raaphh]

just for comparison. there's almost 1.2million players playing fortnite right now and its all time peak was 11.6mil players. The finals is not only dead its garbage . it wasn't ready for release and people like myself who played the beta kept stressing that. This is what happens when you rush a game. very few people play it and MOST of the people that give it a shot anyway, leave within 6months.

and to compare THIS game to a game notorious for having a love hate relationship with its fanbase as well as hiding its official numbers. Warzone's +MWIII estimated active player numbers are 80K and its peak in just the last 30days was near The Final's all time at 155k.

There's about 5million playing Valorant right now. there's 780K playing CS2 and that's a 20 year old title on its most recent engine from like 2014.

The finals is on UE 5...

The finals is dead.

[Raaphh]

Originally posted by Fizz:

Needs chat. Every game feels like you are playing vs npc's. Let us chat with other players.

thats not going to save it. there's tons more wrong with it from their approach to classes to just the movement some of the recoil patterns they have changed. a lot of this stuff should have been worked out in a longer Dev time. adding chat does nothing , bots chat theses days.

[mccluckers]

Originally posted by Raaphh:

people waiting 2 to 3 min for ranked matches. that means you have a dead pool of players.

The fact you're saying "define dead" for a game with less than 12k playing it from its peak NOT EVEN 6months ago of nearly 300k players.

thats a dead game, but makes sense, you play hunt showdown.

my favorite game Hunt Showdown has had less than 12k playing and wait times of up to 2 mins for over 3 years and its still going strong. that doesn't mean a game is dead at all. if you want to call it dead you can. but there are still, like you said, 12,000 people literally playing and enjoying the game right now. the reason i have to ask you what YOU think dead means is because we have a lot of whiny crybabies who think the game is dead even tho you can get into matches with players in them........ so i wanted to know what you meant. because thats not what dead means to me. i'd wager getting into empty lobbies, and being unable to find ANYONE to play with, means a game is dead - because then you can't play it. if you CAN play it, with other people, consistently, then I fail to see how its dead. i mean there are literally online-only games that have been taken down because the playerbase was so low. and you think the game not even a year old, from a brand new studio, with 12k players is dead. i guess there must be a wide margin of dead for you.

[mccluckers]

i think you're just clown farming. you only have 1.8 hours played. stop acting like you care about this game you're just here to be a pessimist

[Raaphh]

Originally posted by mccluckers:

Originally posted by Raaphh:

people waiting 2 to 3 min for ranked matches. that means you have a dead pool of players.

The fact you're saying "define dead" for a game with less than 12k playing it from its peak NOT EVEN 6months ago of nearly 300k players.

thats a dead game, but makes sense, you play hunt showdown.

my favorite game Hunt Showdown has had less than 12k playing and an wait times of up to 2 mins for over 3 years and its still going strong. that doesn't mean a game is dead at all. if you want to call it dead you can. but there are still, like you said, 12,000 people literally playing and enjoying the game right now. the reason i have to ask you what YOU think dead means is because we have a lot of whiny crybabies who think the game is dead even tho you can get into matches with players in them........ so i wanted to know what you meant. because thats not what dead means to me. i'd wager getting into empty lobbies, and being unable to find ANYONE to play with, means a game is dead - because then you can't play it. if you CAN play it, with other people, consistently, then I fail to see how its dead. i mean there are literally online-only games that have been taken down because the playerbase was so low. and you think the game not even a year old, from a brand new studio, with 12k players is dead. i guess there must be a wide margin of dead for you.

no my definition of dead is pretty much the industry standard. A game is dead when there aren't new people trying the game, sticking with the game. It has no growth and a stagnate ecosystem of players where a large portion still playing are cheaters.
Again fortnite has 1.1million people playing it at any give time and stays relatively close to its all time peak(11mil). Your definition of a dead game is warped and actually far more loose than mine because you're literally considering games no body cares about like hunt as not being dead when the reality is if you asked the average gamer do they play hunt , many won't even know what it is in 2024, but they will know fortnite. they will know, apex, they will know warzone.

and just for reference the last time Warzone did a ban wave they said they detected and banned nearly 29k accounts. as i said in a previous post there's only about 80k playing on a given day. that's about 36% of the active population. So when you take those numbers to even WORSE off games like this one or hunt it raises the frequency they are in your games. based on Warzone 36% estimate there almost 4k people cheating in the finals out of an 11K player pool. Again that's a dead game. you can huff the copium all you want . the numbers don't agree with you.

[HypaLink]

Originally posted by Raaphh:

people waiting 2 to 3 min for ranked matches. that means you have a dead pool of players.

The fact you're saying "define dead" for a game with less than 12k playing it from its peak NOT EVEN 6months ago of nearly 300k players.

thats a dead game, but makes sense, you play hunt showdown.

Like most games, console is carrying the population, not pc.

Also it's not dead, free games ALL launch with those type of numbers, from Halo Infinite to Yugioh Master Duel. Take a look at their current numbers tho, and you'll see finals will be just fun. All the casuals and cheaters and people that just like to try new free ♥♥♥♥ are gone.

[JTay970]

Originally posted by Raaphh:

just for comparison. there's almost 1.2million players playing fortnite right now and its all time peak was 11.6mil players. The finals is not only dead its garbage . it wasn't ready for release and people like myself who played the beta kept stressing that. This is what happens when you rush a game. very few people play it and MOST of the people that give it a shot anyway, leave within 6months.

and to compare THIS game to a game notorious for having a love hate relationship with its fanbase as well as hiding its official numbers. Warzone's +MWIII estimated active player numbers are 80K and its peak in just the last 30days was near The Final's all time at 155k.

There's about 5million playing Valorant right now. there's 780K playing CS2 and that's a 20 year old title on its most recent engine from like 2014.

The finals is on UE 5...

The finals is dead.

Sounds like you just don't like the game

[JTay970]

Originally posted by Raaphh:

people waiting 2 to 3 min for ranked matches. that means you have a dead pool of players.

The fact you're saying "define dead" for a game with less than 12k playing it from its peak NOT EVEN 6months ago of nearly 300k players.

thats a dead game, but makes sense, you play hunt showdown.

2-3 mins in ranked is similar to Fortnite queues and your saying that's not a dead game

[Dhomochevsky]

Originally posted by Raaphh:

you can look through every one of my posts on here that this game would die shortly after launch.
No real path forward to deal with cheaters besides the obvious strat that these type of games in general need to be behind heavy pay walls.

The movement feels gross especially if you literally played apex or warzone before opening this. Movement feels floaty , no speed to it.

its not a mystery anymore why this group got pushed out of DICE.

if it is dead, if it does sucks so hard that hurts... what the heck are you doing here posting? wasting your valuable warzone, apex? people out there is really weird.

[vexxjacobsTV]

buddys never played a dead game in his life, comes here to cry about how he lost to some dude in quickplay and call him a cheater.

I play everyday ive seen a cheater twice. youre just whining about nothing.

metrics dont even add up to these bs numbers you vomited out of thin air

[Dhomochevsky]

Originally posted by vexxjacobsTV:

buddys never played a dead game in his life, comes here to cry about how he lost to some dude in quickplay and call him a cheater.

I play everyday ive seen a cheater twice. youre just whining about nothing.

metrics dont even add up to these bs numbers you vomited out of thin air

what i dont get is that, i dont care if somebody else is playing any game, man, i will play what i like not whats if flipping trending. like i dont know if fortnite is still a thing but i can tell you i never played that sheet cause just watching people playing it make me feels sick.

[bRice153]

But there are like 19k people playing right now on Steam, that is kinda a lot