FCAR

[Bakeneko]

This weapon needs a huge ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ nerf.

Edit: about the medium weapons, revoler and shoutgun feels good, fcar needs a hipfire nerf, ak needs some improvement (maybe damage, or better hipfire to be able to deal with stun).

[Staufackar]

Let me guess, light main.

[ARXZO🔻]

buff the anti-cheat

[bidet]

Originally posted by Bakeneko:

Originally posted by bidet:

No it doesn't. The AK is better up close. FCAR is better at range but has shorter clip.

LMAO what, I always use the AK and it is always the fcar guy that melts you, AKs hipfire is horrible while fcar hipfire is a really good.

By up close I don't mean hipfire. I mean close-mid range fights where you typically ADS. In that scenario the AK matches the FCAR but has a larger clip. That's why it's better there.

EDIT: Actually nvm. I did a test and the FCAR does have better DPS, so if your aim is perfect it will beat out the AK by a few bullets in a fight.

[redk]

Originally posted by bidet:

Originally posted by Bakeneko:

LMAO what, I always use the AK and it is always the fcar guy that melts you, AKs hipfire is horrible while fcar hipfire is a really good.

By up close I don't mean hipfire. I mean close-mid range fights where you typically ADS. In that scenario the AK matches the FCAR but has a larger clip. That's why it's better there.

EDIT: Actually nvm. I did a test and the FCAR does have better DPS, so if your aim is perfect it will beat out the AK by a few bullets in a fight.

That's the whole goal with the FCAR, if your aim is perfect, you use it, otherwise you use the AK that has more bullets per magazine.

[Andre_90]

hate the recoil pattern in this gun, people using macro are responsable for the nerf.

[Yulaw]

Easy recoil low TTK is just a bad combo.
Compare it to LH1, even worse stats but but way Higher recoil - it takes skill to make it work.

[VaporeonCunny]

so you died once to a nerfed gun and now you want it to be nerfed again, neat

[Hybernian]

Originally posted by Yulaw:

Easy recoil low TTK is just a bad combo.
Compare it to LH1, even worse stats but but way Higher recoil - it takes skill to make it work.

>XP-54
>V9S
the irony

[mccluckers]

Originally posted by Andre_90:

hate the recoil pattern in this gun, people using macro are responsable for the nerf.

did you know the human brain has a built-in macro response? its called "muscle memory". you get that from doing something called "practicing", sometimes known as "learning" or "improving".

[RuvenGP]

I agree they have to chill with nerfs but I also think it needs a hipfire nerf

[Yulaw]

Originally posted by Hybernian:

Originally posted by Yulaw:

Easy recoil low TTK is just a bad combo.
Compare it to LH1, even worse stats but but way Higher recoil - it takes skill to make it work.

>XP-54
>V9S
the irony

Nobody plays V9S, even that you mentioned it, shows you've no idea.

Light (XP-54) TTK vs Medium 0,9s
Medium (FCAR) TTK vs Light 0,5s

Hybabynian, I know your brain isn't that fast. It means Mediums can kill Light nearly twice as fast.

Now please can the heavy main kid let the people with brain talk?

[Polar Test 53]

Originally posted by Andre_90:

hate the recoil pattern in this gun, people using macro are responsable for the nerf.

people using macros dont care if its recoil gets nerfed. they will just change their macro no matter what the recoil is and i cant imagine anyone being dumb enough to change the recoil pattern to try and stop something you can change into any recoil pattern lol.
recoil got nerfed cuz a straight line that slightly veered to the right was too easy to use for a gun that rewards accuracy so much.
the thing does 39 damage per headshot compared to the ak's 24 or whatever it is. it may even be lower then that ak barely keeps up with the fcars base damage of 25 even if you only landed headshots with it lol. and i think the ak base damage is like 20.

i think the only thing ak has over the fcar is more damage per mag and now ease of use.
i used to love the ak but after you get used to the fcar its tough to go back. it just feels like you spend forever shooting at people.

[Polar Test 53]

Originally posted by Hybernian:

Originally posted by Yulaw:

Easy recoil low TTK is just a bad combo.
Compare it to LH1, even worse stats but but way Higher recoil - it takes skill to make it work.

>XP-54
>V9S
the irony

xp-54 is just an fcar for lights but the m11 is actually pretty good compared to it and the xp-54 has quite a long reload for a light gun. so its not as big a diffrence as AK-FCAR. and ironically they buffed the hipfire on the M11 and nerfed it on the xp-54 which made the m11 get used a hell of alot more often.
which is what needs to happen with AK and FCAR as well i think.

and the v9s has the worst sights and bad visual recoil even tho its actual recoil is super easy
and not that great of a hipfire. its like the option of you still want mid range but you dont want to use the LH1 or the xp-54 but without the benefits either provide lol

[Yulaw]

Originally posted by Polar Test 53:

xp-54 is just an fcar for lights but the m11 is actually pretty good compared to it and the xp-54 has quite a long reload for a light gun. so its not as big a diffrence as AK-FCAR

Ignoring the fact:
Light (XP-54) TTK vs Medium 0,9s
Medium (FCAR) TTK vs Light 0,5s

That's a big difference.

[Polar Test 53]

Originally posted by Yulaw:

Originally posted by Polar Test 53:

xp-54 is just an fcar for lights but the m11 is actually pretty good compared to it and the xp-54 has quite a long reload for a light gun. so its not as big a diffrence as AK-FCAR

Ignoring the fact:
Light (XP-54) TTK vs Medium 0,9s
Medium (FCAR) TTK vs Light 0,5s

That's a big difference.

i ment m11 vs xp-54
compared with ak vs fcar

im comparing base guns with their tac version for each class within their own class's
to further highlight that the fcar is a lil too strong over the ak
i would also compare the m60 and lewis gun but i dont know enough about them
all i know is i still prefer the lewis gun but i think they are pretty close as well.