Weapon balancing is really terrible.

[Gilmore]

SMGs, Assault Rifles and LMGs can beam you across the map, and have MORE dps than weapons that require you to be up close like melee and flamethrower.

How is that fair at all? It makes absolutely 0 sense.

You should be rewarded for closing the distance to another player, not punished.

[Ghazghkull]

Originally posted by Y2K:

The KS-13 needs a buff in my opinion for sure.

agreed, i was using it recently just to see if its possible to use at higher levels.... it just cant deal anywhere near the same amount of damage as any AR or LMG. Maybe if it could crit on headshots but even then its so clunky.

[Dhomochevsky]

Originally posted by Gilmore:

SMGs, Assault Rifles and LMGs can beam you across the map, and have MORE dps than weapons that require you to be up close like melee and flamethrower.

How is that fair at all? It makes absolutely 0 sense.

You should be rewarded for closing the distance to another player, not punished.

lmgs beams you? more like tell me that you had never used lmg without telling you had never used an lmg.

but yeah AR and SMGS really need to some work

[Gilmore]

Originally posted by Dhomochevsky:

Originally posted by Gilmore:

SMGs, Assault Rifles and LMGs can beam you across the map, and have MORE dps than weapons that require you to be up close like melee and flamethrower.

How is that fair at all? It makes absolutely 0 sense.

You should be rewarded for closing the distance to another player, not punished.

lmgs beams you? more like tell me that you had never used lmg without telling you had never used an lmg.

but yeah AR and SMGS really need to some work

Lewis gun can definitely beam people.

[Sobe]

Originally posted by Gilmore:

Originally posted by Dhomochevsky:

lmgs beams you? more like tell me that you had never used lmg without telling you had never used an lmg.

but yeah AR and SMGS really need to some work

Lewis gun can definitely beam people.

Yea for 1 shot, then you hit nothing at long range unless you slowly tap fire it

[Dhomochevsky]

Originally posted by Sobe:

Originally posted by Gilmore:

Lewis gun can definitely beam people.

Yea for 1 shot, then you hit nothing at long range unless you slowly tap fire it

yeah, but thats not beaming... and might be me being an awful player because even when i slow tap it, it doesnt have the accuaracy i wish it had.

[General Brasch 🎖]

Yes! Why the hell can't I kill someone with a melee weapon from 100+ meters away without flanking the enemy undetected, yet my opponents can shoot at me with a rifle from the same distance without having to close the distance! Developers need to immediately nerf weapons so that they only do damage up to 5 meters, and at the same time increase the range of melee weapons to 500 meters and make them one-shot.

[Gilmore]

Originally posted by Nepkit:

Yes! Why the hell can't I kill someone with a melee weapon from 100+ meters away without flanking the enemy undetected, yet my opponents can shoot at me with a rifle from the same distance without having to close the distance! Developers need to immediately nerf weapons so that they only do damage up to 5 meters, and at the same time increase the range of melee weapons to 500 meters and make them one-shot.

Completely missing the point? Melee weapons should do more dps than ranged weapons since you have to survive getting close enough to use them.

[Gilmore]

Originally posted by Nepkit:

Yes! Why the hell can't I kill someone with a melee weapon from 100+ meters away without flanking the enemy undetected, yet my opponents can shoot at me with a rifle from the same distance without having to close the distance! Developers need to immediately nerf weapons so that they only do damage up to 5 meters, and at the same time increase the range of melee weapons to 500 meters and make them one-shot.

And there are certain cash out locations where there is no possible way to flank and attack with a melee weapon.

[Lord Dazed & Insane]

Balancing is always difficult in a game like this.

[General Brasch 🎖]

A good melee player is extremely dangerous and can take out an entire team under the right circumstances. L with Sword and Dash will run circles around you, slicing you into sushi while you panic trying to keep up. But you won't last long if you don't have good aim, because a Dash with a charged sword strike and a normal attack will kill you in less than 1 second. L with a knife will flank you in invisibility and Bacstab you, immediately sending you to the respawn screen. H with a sledgehammer will trap you in goo and smash your skull with a sledgehammer. Or he can use Charge to knock 150 HP off of you and then finish you off with a sledgehammer. M with Shield will easily close the distance with his shield and smash all your kidneys with his baton. However, this is only true for the players who have this skill. The rest don't want to learn and cry on forums about how hard it is to play with Mele weapons.
TLDR - Skill Issue

[Gilmore]

Originally posted by Nepkit:

A good melee player is extremely dangerous and can take out an entire team under the right circumstances. L with Sword and Dash will run circles around you, slicing you into sushi while you panic trying to keep up. But you won't last long if you don't have good aim, because a Dash with a charged sword strike and a normal attack will kill you in less than 1 second. L with a knife will flank you in invisibility and Bacstab you, immediately sending you to the respawn screen. H with a sledgehammer will trap you in goo and smash your skull with a sledgehammer. Or he can use Charge to knock 150 HP off of you and then finish you off with a sledgehammer. M with Shield will easily close the distance with his shield and smash all your kidneys with his baton. However, this is only true for the players who have this skill. The rest don't want to learn and cry on forums about how hard it is to play with Mele weapons.
TLDR - Skill Issue

Goo is highly unreliable and a heavy will get lasered to pieces before he can even get close.

Riot shield only protects from the front, and the other 2 enemies can just go around you while the other 1 is shooting the shield.

Light is fast but it doesn’t change the fact that he has so little hp that a good player can still track the dash and kill you in 0.5 seconds with an SMG or Assault Rifle, and don’t get me started on cloak. People can spot that from 10 feet away and laser you before you can get close.

[General Brasch 🎖]

M8 you've only played 30+ hours. You still have a lot to learn and understand. But remember the most important thing: The FINALS is a team-based game. And always think before you act. If you're running around on your own like a headless chicken, don't be surprised if an enemy team of 3 players catches you.

[Gilmore]

Originally posted by Nepkit:

A good melee player is extremely dangerous and can take out an entire team under the right circumstances. L with Sword and Dash will run circles around you, slicing you into sushi while you panic trying to keep up. But you won't last long if you don't have good aim, because a Dash with a charged sword strike and a normal attack will kill you in less than 1 second. L with a knife will flank you in invisibility and Bacstab you, immediately sending you to the respawn screen. H with a sledgehammer will trap you in goo and smash your skull with a sledgehammer. Or he can use Charge to knock 150 HP off of you and then finish you off with a sledgehammer. M with Shield will easily close the distance with his shield and smash all your kidneys with his baton. However, this is only true for the players who have this skill. The rest don't want to learn and cry on forums about how hard it is to play with Mele weapons.
TLDR - Skill Issue

And you didn’t even mention other close range weapons.

Explain why the flamethrower for example should have LESS dps than an SMG or Assault Rifle. Flamethrower requires you to stand right next to someone and you will still lose a dual unless you have the element of surprise.

[Gilmore]

Originally posted by Nepkit:

The FINALS is a team-based game. And always think before you act. If you're running around on your own like a headless chicken, don't be surprised if an enemy team of 3 players catches you.

I don’t really have a choice when I’m the only one playing the objective.

I literally had a ranked match yesterday with 2 light teammates just camping a crane with sniper rifles farming kills.

[psnjungle]

Nah, its a shooter game. You should absolutely Not be rewarded for using melee, but accept the challenge by you taking that weapon to begin with.

The only weapons that should be Nerfed are Light weapons, they have extreme damage and range on top of that.

If your having trouble killing with any of the Light's weapon, i recommend keep asking in this thread (your other thread):

https://steamcommunity.com/app/2073850/discussions/0/4334229587329534996/