Nexon anticheat (NGS) got silently installed last update

[Tolak]

Nothing suspicious at all Korean company, no information in the patch notes, no nothing. Some users cant launch the game because of it. NGS asks them to accept their tos or whatever and it crashes their game. I didnt recieve any notice notice so I guess it accepted itself lmao. If you have any troubles with launching Embarks wants you to run steam as administrator and accept NGS. Did something like this ever happen to you? What a BS. This shouldnt be needed, ever. Nexos is also known for exploiting its users. Thats a RECENT event. And embark partners with them... You can read about it here: https://videogames.si.com/news/nexon-fine-drop-rate-manipulation
I think Im about to drop this game and throw my pc into the ocean because after last update, my GPU struggles with the game even more, so it literally burns my house while mining crypto for korea or sending them all my data, oh well

[All Eye Saw]

Hotfix was yesterday, which not require it anymore to play

[redk]

And it got removed 24 hours later.

BTW, Nexon is the parent company for Embark. So if you don't like "Korean companies", why are you playing a Korean published game ?

[Tolak]

Originally posted by All Eye Saw:

Hotfix was yesterday, which not require it anymore to play

I need a source on this. I know they fixed fixed the issue for those that couldnt launch the game but didnt read anything about removing NGS

[Qahx]

idk why you have an issue playing a korean game, and making racial jokes about our integrity as our culture is pretty rude aswell, if you don't like game, don't play

[Rikashey]

I thought Embark was Swedish.

[greathero]

Originally posted by Tolak:

I think Im about to drop this game and throw my pc into the ocean because after last update, my GPU struggles with the game even more, so it literally burns my house while mining crypto for korea or sending them all my data, oh well

Ahaha Wth? I didn't know the whole story

[[LOKE]YourC3PH]

Originally posted by Rikashey:

I thought Embark was Swedish.

Embark is Swedish, Nexon is Korean. Nexon has plenty of stakes in Embark and thus has a lot of say in the development & course/direction that Embark will... embark on (yes, it's a verb, and no, I didn't mean to do any word play here, but it's funny now that I think of it). Also, Nexon is more like the "publisher" if you so will and need to see it from that perspective, while Embark is the development studio actually making the game itself.

[[LOKE]YourC3PH]

Originally posted by Tolak:

Originally posted by All Eye Saw:

Hotfix was yesterday, which not require it anymore to play

I need a source on this. I know they fixed fixed the issue for those that couldnt launch the game but didnt read anything about removing NGS

Man, people like you really are annoying, cannot do any research on your own?

The Steam diff that SteamDB runs :

https://steamdb.info/patchnotes/13803862/

NGClient and Blackcipher were removed, as you can tell from the SteamDB diff.

The sad part is that it left behind NGService.exe, though the service is configured to run on "Manual" mode, so it's not like it does anything unless a game starts it, which currently, "Discovery.exe" (aka. "The Finals") doesn't.

And another way I can tell it's gone: I can launch my game without needing to run Steam as admin.

[Tolak]

Originally posted by redk:

And it got removed 24 hours later.

BTW, Nexon is the parent company for Embark. So if you don't like "Korean companies", why are you playing a Korean published game ?

I didnt know about it till yesterday when I did a little research. Korean company and Korean company that recently got caught scamming its users and fined for it, is a different thing. Add to that implementing its anticheat without informing anybody and causing problems for many? Feels shady

[Kyral]

never had to install it in the first place
linux users keep winning against spywares

[Tolak]

Originally posted by Qahx:

idk why you have an issue playing a korean game, and making racial jokes about our integrity as our culture is pretty rude aswell, if you don't like game, don't play

I guess you guys are used to it. Whatever. If it wasnt for Nexon, id had no problem

[Recruit]

Originally posted by Kyral:

never had to install it in the first place
linux users keep winning against spywares

is linux not as affected as windows when it comes to rootkit levels of anti-cheat?

[JahBLiSSFUL]

Anyone interested how to remove:

1. Run command prompt as administrator (right click the "Command Prompt" in start menu and "Run as Administrator")
2. Write the command

sc stop NGS

(probably not running tho) and

sc delete NGS

3. Delete

C:\ProgramData\Nexon\NGS\NGService.exe

Verify
Run 'services.msc' and scroll through the list to make sure "Nexon Game Security Service" is not in the list.

Can also verify in the command prompt via

sc query state=all | find "NGS"

and

sc query state=all | find "Nexon"

and it should have no results.

[k0nstant]

Originally posted by JahBLiSSFUL:

Anyone interested how to remove:

1. Run command prompt as administrator (right click the "Command Prompt" in start menu and "Run as Administrator")
2. Write the command

sc stop NGS

(probably not running tho) and

sc delete NGS

3. Delete

C:\ProgramData\Nexon\NGS\NGService.exe

Verify
Run 'services.msc' and scroll through the list to make sure "Nexon Game Security Service" is not in the list.

Can also verify in the command prompt via

sc query state=all | find "NGS"

and

sc query state=all | find "Nexon"

and it should have no results.

Thanks! I can't believe Embark really followed through with this ♥♥♥♥. Glad they listened and removed it.

[Kyral]

Originally posted by Recruta BR:

Originally posted by Kyral:

never had to install it in the first place
linux users keep winning against spywares

is linux not as affected as windows when it comes to rootkit levels of anti-cheat?

nope, anticheats runs in user mode on linux, there is no kernel access for them, EAC and BattleEye have a dedicated native linux versions made to work with WINE.