Is it safe to play the Finals after the Easy Anti Cheat fiasco?

[coehl]

hey guys, i'm out of the loop with everything but i just want to know if the Finals is safe to play after the easy anti cheat fiasco that happened two or three days ago. just want to know because i've yet to hear any official updates if it's all clear. thanks!

[redk]

Nothing happened with Easy Anti-Cheat.

It's always been safe to play The Finals.

Respawn is fixing their game and have nothing to do with this game.

[coehl]

Okay, thanks so much!

[LMBits]

Originally posted by coehl:

Okay, thanks so much!

Don't trust anything that guy says. The finals like any other PVP games have and will have cheaters. Starting from allowing PC users with mouse and keyboard to use aim assistance meant for controllers. Who plays an FPS PVP game with a controller on PC... Nobody.. Ah wait now it seems to be the preferred way by cheaters.

[redk]

Originally posted by LMBits:

Originally posted by coehl:

Okay, thanks so much!

Don't trust anything that guy says. The finals like any other PVP games have and will have cheaters. Starting from allowing PC users with mouse and keyboard to use aim assistance meant for controllers. Who plays an FPS PVP game with a controller on PC... Nobody.. Ah wait now it seems to be the preferred way by cheaters.

He's not talking about Cheaters.

He's talking about the Apex ALGS hacks of Hal and Gen, live during the NA Finals. Some people on X initially were trying to blame EAC having a vulnerability, but that's since been mostly disproven and now it's either that Hal and Gen were backdoored through earlier phishing, or an actual RCE bug in Apex that Respawn is fixing (they already did a few issues and communicated about it earlier today).

Go stalk elsewhere, especially if you don't understand what's going on and are just going to be salty you were exposed as a bad player. This post just makes you look even worse than your whining thread about Light snipers actually being able to aim at you.

[Madnesis]

No worry guys, Embark and NEXON are here to save the day, with their groundbreaking and inviolable anti-cheat solution called Nexon Game Security or NGS for short!
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Seriously tough, no matter what other says, it's not safe: https://www.reddit.com/r/pcgaming/comments/y5jvzf/root_level_anticheat_is_getting_out_of_hand_again/

I don't know about NGS but EAC is rootkit level anti-cheat and the article I linked properly documents the risks why any rootkit level anti-cheat solution.

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There was a literal anti-cheat framework swap this update.

[Madnesis]

Originally posted by slow feet:

There was a literal anti-cheat framework swap this update.

You are saying that EAC is no longer being used after the update? Not that's it's going to do any good from an endpoint security perspective, given it's rootkit level.

Anyway, I'm curious to know if it's really the case that they switched from EAC to NGS, which I suspect is using another rootkit level anti-cheat called XIGNCODE3.

[LMBits]

Originally posted by redk:

Originally posted by LMBits:

Don't trust anything that guy says. The finals like any other PVP games have and will have cheaters. Starting from allowing PC users with mouse and keyboard to use aim assistance meant for controllers. Who plays an FPS PVP game with a controller on PC... Nobody.. Ah wait now it seems to be the preferred way by cheaters.

He's not talking about Cheaters.

He's talking about the Apex ALGS hacks of Hal and Gen, live during the NA Finals. Some people on X initially were trying to blame EAC having a vulnerability, but that's since been mostly disproven and now it's either that Hal and Gen were backdoored through earlier phishing, or an actual RCE bug in Apex that Respawn is fixing (they already did a few issues and communicated about it earlier today).

Go stalk elsewhere, especially if you don't understand what's going on and are just going to be salty you were exposed as a bad player. This post just makes you look even worse than your whining thread about Light snipers actually being able to aim at you.

Your computer might be safe... Who knows but the matches aren't safe. Very easy to understand my point... Light snipers what? You are very confused my man. Stop smoking what ever that is. It can accentuate paranoia.

[Resxt]

I wish I would find one, just one, Steam discussion without out of touch weirdos at some point.

Simple question: is the Finals impacted by the EAC fiasco allowing hackers to force you to cheat or inject malware to your PC through the game's vulnerabilities, as seen recently on Apex Legends?

Simple answer: No, because the issue is with Apex Legends, not with EAC. The "EAC issue" was a rumor, or more like a supposition that EAC could potentially be the issue. It was later confirmed that EAC was not the issue but the game itself, just like older COD games have these issues, from the same studio (kinda)

No one talked about cheaters or anything. Seriously learn to read basic text

[redk]

Originally posted by LMBits:

Your computer might be safe... Who knows but the matches aren't safe.

There is no danger in playing video games, any video games. Dying in a video game or losing health in a video game doesn't cause your body to also die or lose health (outside of the poor lifestyle choices most gamers make). So playing The Finals is very safe, the matches are very safe. You just sit there, press a few buttons, and then get up when you're done.

Your point is ridiculous and completely besides what the OP was asking about, which was the Apex Legends hacking fiasco.

[InnCognito]

All i know is, if the anticheat boots up with the computer's OS. Its easily exploited and allows for open port scanning, injection and administrative privilege escalation.

If they are running a KERNAL OS anticheat that does boot up with the pc. its not safe.

Most of these cheat issues can be resolved with SERVER SIDED anti-cheat scripting, which means a server needs more "horse power" under the hood, and less "VMs" being shoved onto bare metal boxes. Im a nobody and even I can figure this out.

a core group of programmers at a game company just need to stop being lazy and figure it out. its not rocket science. Its called spending the money, the time, and drinking boatloads of starbux and cosmic brownies, while burning the midnight oil :-)

[Avalar]

Originally posted by coehl:

hey guys, i'm out of the loop with everything but i just want to know if the Finals is safe to play after the easy anti cheat fiasco that happened two or three days ago. just want to know because i've yet to hear any official updates if it's all clear. thanks!

Its not EAC fiascor. Its fiasco of Source engine that used in Apex Legends... If you really interested in the problem you shopuld know that Source engine had vulnerability wherte you can execute code on other device so thats why same thing happened in ♥♥♥♥♥♥ Legends

[redk]

Originally posted by LMBits:

Originally posted by redk:

There is no danger in playing video games, any video games. Dying in a video game or losing health in a video game doesn't cause your body to also die or lose health (outside of the poor lifestyle choices most gamers make). So playing The Finals is very safe, the matches are very safe. You just sit there, press a few buttons, and then get up when you're done.

Your point is ridiculous and completely besides what the OP was asking about, which was the Apex Legends hacking fiasco.

You should check with a psychiatrist.

Says the guy who thinks he's in danger for playing a video game.

My dude, you really need to get that problem of yours fixed if you think there's danger in pixels on your screen.

You came into a thread with a vast conspiracy about the dangers posed by cheaters, when the topic was about a specific event in Apex Legends. You should stop embarrassing yourself.

[LMBits]

Originally posted by redk:

Originally posted by LMBits:

You should check with a psychiatrist.

Says the guy who thinks he's in danger for playing a video game.

My dude, you really need to get that problem of yours fixed if you think there's danger in pixels on your screen.

You came into a thread with a vast conspiracy about the dangers posed by cheaters, when the topic was about a specific event in Apex Legends. You should stop embarrassing yourself.

You make no sense talking about danger and pixels mate. Get some help.

[redk]

Originally posted by LMBits:

Originally posted by redk:

Says the guy who thinks he's in danger for playing a video game.

My dude, you really need to get that problem of yours fixed if you think there's danger in pixels on your screen.

You came into a thread with a vast conspiracy about the dangers posed by cheaters, when the topic was about a specific event in Apex Legends. You should stop embarrassing yourself.

You make no sense talking about danger and pixels mate. Get some help.

You're the one who claimed it wasn't safe to play The Finals my dude.

Now you're just gaslighting when we can all see your comment. Get over yourself, you didn't understand the topic, made a fool of yourself, and now you're just trying to get the last word in as if that's going to diminish your embarrassment.

Yes, it's safe to play The Finals. No, Cheaters are not putting you in danger.