Big changes need to happen

[Timeless]

This game is incredibly fun and enjoyable. I definitely see the potential.


But the #1 issue I currently see and experience exponentially is the fact that there are these cheap builds that justify certain guns to be more OP than they should be.

There needs to be some big balancing changes that need to happen.

As an example:
If they took away melee weapons, balancing out guns would be so much easier and there would immediately be skill involved in the gameplay, period.

Because getting shocked and swung at and hit 2 times by an invisible player with a sword, who isn't even going for the objective, is just dumb gameplay. It takes an entire mag from an AK to put them down but they swing 2-3 times and I die?

I mean, cmon...


At the very least, Tournament and ranked should not involve any form of melee builds or just any 1-2 shot gimmick play-styles if possible.



What WILL happen if things aren't balanced or changed:

Players will continue to unlock more equipment and every team will run around with nothing but 1-2 shot gimmick kits and the gameplay will immediately become frustrating and boring.



If things like that do not change, this game will die....

[Oro]

tl;dr

[Zozihn]

If you think melee = 0 skill involved...you miss a lot in CQC lmao. The thing that will kill this game is server issues, not someone bringing a knife to a gunfight and getting blown to bits by a well placed rocket.

[Zozihn]

I really expected you to discuss game stability, CPU, server issues etc, but you're saying the game with Cyberpunk 2077 esque PvP is going to die because you can kill someone with a sword. I mean, damn, not the game you I guess lol.

[Timeless]

Originally posted by Zozihn:

If you think melee = 0 skill involved...you miss a lot in CQC lmao. The thing that will kill this game is server issues, not someone bringing a knife to a gunfight and getting blown to bits by a well placed rocket.

Thank you for proving my point.

You don't even have to have a 'well placed shot' with a rocket because 90% of the time, it's shot a pointblank, killing the enemy and not the one who shot it too.

Another thing that needs to change.

[Oro]

Originally posted by Timeless:

Originally posted by Zozihn:

If you think melee = 0 skill involved...you miss a lot in CQC lmao. The thing that will kill this game is server issues, not someone bringing a knife to a gunfight and getting blown to bits by a well placed rocket.

Thank you for proving my point.

You don't even have to have a 'well placed shot' with a rocket because 90% of the time, it's shot a pointblank, killing the enemy and not the one who shot it too.

Another thing that needs to change.

If you shoot it anywhere near yourself you'll die and your enemy will live.

[Netsa]

I was taking you seriously until you said melee weapons.

Aaaand scroll down, and the same guy also just said that RPG can be fired point-blank without killing yourself.

[[34TH]Cpt Clutch]

this is one of those posts that gets every fun weapon nerfed to hell, then the game isnt fun anymore

[Zozihn]

Triple posting to say one more thing. They're cloaked, not invisible. They shimmer while moving. They need to hit every strike, you need to not see them at all, have no turrets, no teammates, no scanner, and not be shooting them point blank to die. Getting caught out by a sword is the same as a shotgun or getting burned point blank in the head by an SMG.

[󠁳⁧⁧ ShadeShot]

the only actual unfair things in this game are the rpg and instakill heavy c4 barrels

anything to do with light is countered simply with having ears and eyes, hitting your shots is optional because they have such low hp

also if you fire an rpg point blank it will 100% do self damage, if you are a light with a melee weapon and a heavy tries to kill you with an rpg that 320 self damage because you are so close

[Zozihn]

Since Git Gud doesn't actually help you get better, here's something that will: do not waste time with melee strike against a melee weapon user. Either run away if it's a Heavy, or track them and burn them down. Carry explosive mines, you can martyrdom people like in CoD with them if you're about to die. If you play Heavy and hate melee players, carry a flamethrower.

Learn to see cloakers, just takes practice. This assumes you never played Halo, TF2, Planetside 2, etc. - you'd know how to if that was the case (just saying).

"who isn't even going for the objective" don't be there, wrong place wrong time, that happens in PvP.

Cloak players need to flank you, the cloak runs out through use, they can't fire, wind up a throwing knife, or use equipment while cloaked, it will reveal them once they do.

This is the long version of: just shoot them/don't get assassinated in a bad position.

[Timeless]

Originally posted by Dream On:

the only actual unfair things in this game are the rpg and instakill heavy c4 barrels

anything to do with light is countered simply with having ears and eyes, hitting your shots is optional because they have such low hp

also if you fire an rpg point blank it will 100% do self damage, if you are a light with a melee weapon and a heavy tries to kill you with an rpg that 320 self damage because you are so close

When it's true point blank then yes I see that but after 2ft, that doesn't happen.

I've watched too many times where a player runs into a building with an RPG, fires it at someone from 3 ft away and they are completely fine.

But yes, you are right.

My point in all this is that the gameplay is going to need some serious balancing changes. I don't care about the technical aspect. After all, it always needs work, and it's fairly subjective because people experience technical issues differently.

I am solely talking about the gameplay. The best matches I have had are those without the 1-2 shot gimmick cheap playstyles which involve either melee weapons or shotguns.

I am calling it now, it WILL be a problem in the future, 100% guaranteed.

[Zozihn]

The counter to the RPG btw is the medigun, or whatever it's called. That thing is currently insane. It can outheal most things unless you take an RMB sledge to head or get focused.

[Oro]

Originally posted by Zozihn:

If you play Heavy and hate melee players, carry a flamethrower.

The flamethrower does less dps than pretty much any other weapon, it won't help against melee players.

[General Brasch]

dog needs a whole ak mag to kill a light player lmao

[FehLLA]

skill issue