The finals is just clownfest now with instakill flying barrels

[.pleasures]

In this game 400+ AOE insta damage is counted as balance. And there is NO counterplay against it, you can't blow C4 on a barrel held by another player like you can do with mines. Furthermore, C4's cooldown is decreasing when they are set and after the first throw you can immediately throw the next barrel with two more charges. Then there is also RPG-7 for 150 instant AOE damage.
I swear, in ranked, 70% of kills on the map are instant kills from RPGs and flying barrels with C4. Just give already to each class RPG-7 and 2 C4 charges with a 20 second cooldowns to finally remove gunfights from the game.

That should have been fixed in the first place. What have the developers done? Reduced the C4's damage from 240 to 210 and the RPG's dmg from 165 to 150. Now tell me, what's the point of that if 2 C4s still do 400+ damage, which is more than any class in the game has? 240, 210, 180 damage - what the hell is the difference, 1 charge will still instantly kill lights, and 2 charges will OHK any other class in the game. RPG still OHK lights, but now does 15 less damage to other classes, which you won't notice anyway.

By the way, imagine, there are still people here complaining about the long TTK. You are out of your minds, TTK literally does not exist in this game - it is 0, lmao.

[PlebNC (UK)]

C4 can be shot/blown up and there's a gadget that's literal purpose is destroying mines, C4 and projectiles like RPG rockets. Said gadget can be attached to a prop and thrown at an objective to remove mines and C4 or held to stop players directly launching C4/mines on barrels at you.
You could also just, you know, not stand next to the objective where they'll hurl that barrel at.

[.pleasures]

Originally posted by PlebNC (UK):

C4 can be shot/blown up and there's a gadget that's literal purpose is destroying mines, C4 and projectiles like RPG rockets. Said gadget can be attached to a prop and thrown at an objective to remove mines and C4 or held to stop players directly launching C4/mines on barrels at you.
You could also just, you know, not stand next to the objective where they'll hurl that barrel at.

If you constantly walk around with this gadget on a prop in your hand, you are vulnerable against any opponent not holding a barrel, simply because the opponent will start shooting sooner. If you're going to use the gadget right before the opponent throws, then I doubt you'll make it in time. This is hardly a counterplay, and it requires skill, while nothing is needed to throw a barrel. Not to mention that said gadget only has a medium class, it's small radius and hp and generally bad in its current state compared to alternatives.

In any case, 18 hits to the body with an AKM to kill heavy should not equal one throw of a barrel, which OHK the same heavy and also causes lethal damage to everyone nearby and can kill the entire team.

[Tawahachee]

if you land an RPG near the barreled heavy you will kill him with his own barrel and stuff attached to it. I aggree it's hard to do this especially when the heavy knows where you're coming from, hence prefire throw right in your face and nothing can be done, but if the heavy does not know and you got the upper hand then shoot the damn barrels and kill him right there. can be done with firearms, too, but takes much more time to do so. but hey, at least you can blow it up mid air without letting it kill you

[.pleasures]

Originally posted by Tawahachee:

if you land an RPG near the barreled heavy you will kill him with his own barrel and stuff attached to it. I aggree it's hard to do this especially when the heavy knows where you're coming from, hence prefire throw right in your face and nothing can be done, but if the heavy does not know and you got the upper hand then shoot the damn barrels and kill him right there. can be done with firearms, too, but takes much more time to do so. but hey, at least you can blow it up mid air without letting it kill you

And what should I do if I already see heavy with a barrel in his hands and he is looking at me at the same moment? I won't have time to take RPG and shoot (btw, what if I am playing as L or M without RPG?), it's almost impossible to blow up C4 before the barrel hits you. And, again, you don't need any skill to throw a barrel, it's the easiest and fastest way to kill in the game rn. Why do you think that such a difficult counterplay is fair? C4s should either not cause lethal damage, or they should explode from the first shot to the barrel, just as it happens with mines.

[Showguyver]

explosives and invisibility are too strong

[Sharker Limetail]

I don't understand
It's OK to complain about this in the finals but in battlefield where c4 has ruled for a long time it's not?

It really isn't even that bad from what I've seen. And I play the occasional ranked match. Nobody complained about this in playtest yet nothing about explosives was buffed. (They were actually debuffed)