Respawn time too long, team wipe punishment is insane, and map spawns need to be closer to the action

[Cøre]

Normal respawn time is already long, then if there is a team wipe, you get *punished* with an extra delay. There have been multiple times where I was seconds from respawn only to get team wiped and have another 17 seconds to wait. So I end up out of the game for almost 30 seconds, which is an eternity in a game as fast paced as this.
Combine that with spawning across the map from a cashout location and you spend another 30 seconds just to get to the action.
If you have bad luck, or bad teammates, you end up either checking your phone while waiting to respawn or hauling ass across the map *hoping* to get to the cashout in time, or both.

[Doge]

-1

[Norbac]

Skill issue.

[Reticeo]

The last man standing is suppose to fall back unless they absolutely know they can push until the team re-spawns. Your team is punished twice for not playing by the set rules within the game by having the team wiped. If you're Light, just run away. Heavy, throw up some shields and fall back, M not sure, never played M. M should be keeping the team alive so falling back entirely like L seems like a good idea.

[AV]

Don't get team wiped.

[Solusツ]

Originally posted by AV:

Don't get team wiped.

you all sit here and say the same ♥♥♥♥ (skill issue, dont get team wiped, etc). NO, you are missing the point, if you have BAD teammates it is not your fault, if you are against a cheater which 6 times out of 10 in ranked games you ARE, it once again isnt your fault. The respawn times are extremely slow

[Player Zer01]

its suppose to be a punishment since youre suppose to operate as a team. if youre the last man then its best to fall back and wait for a team member to rez. this is why the announcers even state if there is only one left alive.

[TheChicagoMike]

Originally posted by Reticeo:

The last man standing is suppose to fall back unless they absolutely know they can push until the team re-spawns. Your team is punished twice for not playing by the set rules within the game by having the team wiped. If you're Light, just run away. Heavy, throw up some shields and fall back, M not sure, never played M. M should be keeping the team alive so falling back entirely like L seems like a good idea.

This.

[Solusツ]

Originally posted by Player Zer01:

its suppose to be a punishment since youre suppose to operate as a team. if youre the last man then its best to fall back and wait for a team member to rez. this is why the announcers even state if there is only one left alive.

they announce it so the other team who isnt attacking an objective will attack the solo player to team wipe so they dont get third partied... wdym

[AV]

Originally posted by Skye:

Originally posted by AV:

Don't get team wiped.

you all sit here and say the same ♥♥♥♥ (skill issue, dont get team wiped, etc). NO, you are missing the point, if you have BAD teammates it is not your fault, if you are against a cheater which 6 times out of 10 in ranked games you ARE, it once again isnt your fault. The respawn times are extremely slow

If you have bad teammates you play more conservatively knowing you'll get 1v3'd.

Let me respawn to die from aimbots faster is a bonkers take... If there's a cheater there, you're only winning if you get lucky and someone else ganks them from behind already.

[Player Zer01]

Originally posted by Skye:

Originally posted by Player Zer01:

its suppose to be a punishment since youre suppose to operate as a team. if youre the last man then its best to fall back and wait for a team member to rez. this is why the announcers even state if there is only one left alive.

they announce it so the other team who isnt attacking an objective will attack the solo player to team wipe so they dont get third partied... wdym

its also a message to the LMS (last man standing) TO PLAY CAREFULLY!! do you not even listen to what the announcers say??! 90% of time they are literally saying to be careful. yes its telling the team that there is one left but its also saying "hey numb nuts DONT GO IN!!"

[Netsa]

Originally posted by Skye:

Originally posted by AV:

Don't get team wiped.

you all sit here and say the same ♥♥♥♥ (skill issue, dont get team wiped, etc). NO, you are missing the point, if you have BAD teammates it is not your fault, if you are against a cheater which 6 times out of 10 in ranked games you ARE, it once again isnt your fault. The respawn times are extremely slow

At what rank are you seeing hax 60% of the time, so I can be prepared? I'm not seeing any where I am, maybe it depends on the server.

Anyway, @you and @OP, the spawns are long so people can actually cap. If every team respawns in a few seconds in a mode like Quick Cash, no one will ever steal it, the win will just go to whoever put the vault in first. Team Wipe is an extra penalty on top to stop a team from just cycling out players, especially in Quick Play where there's no coin limit (player 1 dies, player 2 dies 5 seconds later, player 1 is already back on the field by the time player 3 dies, and the game just never moves forward).

And if you're worried that your team's going to suck, hang back and don't play Heavy. Make sure you're the last person to die, not the first, and you won't have to worry about Team Wipes. Especially if you're on Light, you don't HAVE to move in side-by-side with your team.

(Keep in mind, though, causing your own team wipe is sometimes a good idea. If your team is down on tokens, that's the only way to get them back besides a manual revive, which is sometimes impossible. It also forces your team to spawn together, which stops everyone from being scattered around the map.)

[Solusツ]

Originally posted by Netsa:

Originally posted by Skye:

you all sit here and say the same ♥♥♥♥ (skill issue, dont get team wiped, etc). NO, you are missing the point, if you have BAD teammates it is not your fault, if you are against a cheater which 6 times out of 10 in ranked games you ARE, it once again isnt your fault. The respawn times are extremely slow

At what rank are you seeing hax 60% of the time, so I can be prepared? I'm not seeing any where I am, maybe it depends on the server.

Anyway, @you and @OP, the spawns are long so people can actually cap. If every team respawns in a few seconds in a mode like Quick Cash, no one will ever steal it, the win will just go to whoever put the vault in first. Team Wipe is an extra penalty on top to stop a team from just cycling out players, especially in Quick Play where there's no coin limit (player 1 dies, player 2 dies 5 seconds later, player 1 is already back on the field by the time player 3 dies, and the game just never moves forward).

And if you're worried that your team's going to suck, hang back and don't play Heavy. Make sure you're the last person to die, not the first, and you won't have to worry about Team Wipes. Especially if you're on Light, you don't HAVE to move in side-by-side with your team.

(Keep in mind, though, causing your own team wipe is sometimes a good idea. If your team is down on tokens, that's the only way to get them back besides a manual revive, which is sometimes impossible. It also forces your team to spawn together, which stops everyone from being scattered around the map.)

i run into so many cheaters in quick play it isnt funny, plus my friends are saying the same things.

you opinions are valid and i understand, however compared to beta to full release, medium classes and heavy classes feel like they move slower and do less damage, I remember in the betas the heavy class was supposed to be taken seriously and everyone focuses fire on them to eliminate them, but now its like the light class can shred though you and destroy you before you even do half the damage required to kill them. The team play is an important thing but when I die and watch teammates literally standing there and doing NOTHING to go to the objective... whats the point? Plus everyone leaving over being killed and not winning the game, the devs need to implement soft punishments for leaving. I dont have any REAL problems with the game, it feels fun and fluid, its just team balancing and SBMM sucks ass and to people saying "get friends", that doesnt help for anti social people and people who just want to play a free to play game, plus not everyone wants to play the same game at times if you are in a call with friends... so, thats not the players fault

[n4n0]

ITT: skill issue

[Kimosamie<sAp.]

Originally posted by Reticeo:

The last man standing is suppose to fall back

I wish more people knew this

[Big Bear]

Originally posted by Cøre:

Normal respawn time is already long, then if there is a team wipe, you get *punished* with an extra delay. There have been multiple times where I was seconds from respawn only to get team wiped and have another 17 seconds to wait. So I end up out of the game for almost 30 seconds, which is an eternity in a game as fast paced as this.
Combine that with spawning across the map from a cashout location and you spend another 30 seconds just to get to the action.
If you have bad luck, or bad teammates, you end up either checking your phone while waiting to respawn or hauling ass across the map *hoping* to get to the cashout in time, or both.

I mean you answered your own post. "bad teammates" This is the issue more than the timers, many times I am the last on the team alive and I watch the timer and play safe until at least one other person has spawned because the team wipe penalty is there as another game play element.