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AV Dec 23, 2023 @ 12:35am
Defib Invulnerability is Ridiculous
Defib shouldn't make the revived person invincible. If a player decides to revive a person in a bad place, it should be way easier to punish. It's way OP.
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Shortpower Dec 23, 2023 @ 7:17am 
Don't disagree it's annoying but:

If you want to remove it because it's a garbage interaction, remove rocket launcher and cloak too.
LukanGamer Dec 23, 2023 @ 10:21pm 
Originally posted by AV:
O ya and don't forget almost every single player using them will at least 1x fumble using it due to how finicky it can be and lesser players will fail it so often you better off reviving yourself so they don't get killed trying to revive you along with waisting time.

No one who actually uses Defib would do this.... Ppl may fumble like the first time ever but it's not rocket science. It's hold and release.......
ya this litteraly just shows how blind with your own preferences/anger or disingenuous, especially when not only is it beyond common, beyond not that simple as it should be as it requires 100% perfection and even aiming or being 1% off can make it say nah not good enough at times (hence it being common), but I will say I see it happen 3+x (3 being minimum) a match all together when enough players are using it.
Last edited by LukanGamer; Dec 23, 2023 @ 10:31pm
AV Dec 23, 2023 @ 10:24pm 
Originally posted by LukanGamer:
Originally posted by AV:


No one who actually uses Defib would do this.... Ppl may fumble like the first time ever but it's not rocket science. It's hold and release.......
ya this litteraly just shows how blind with your own preferences/anger or disingenuous, especially when not only is it beyond common, beyond not that simple as it should be as it requires 100% perfection and even aiming or being 1% off can make it say nah not good enough at times (hence it being common), but I will say I see it happen 3+x a match all together when enough players are using it.

Except for the very first one where you see how it works, I've never failed a Defib, never seen a teammate fail a defib, and have never seen an opponent fail a defib. Possible SBMM differential at play but yeah.... it's not remotely difficult to use.
Laffayette Colgate Dec 23, 2023 @ 10:27pm 
Originally posted by AV:
Originally posted by LukanGamer:
ya this litteraly just shows how blind with your own preferences/anger or disingenuous, especially when not only is it beyond common, beyond not that simple as it should be as it requires 100% perfection and even aiming or being 1% off can make it say nah not good enough at times (hence it being common), but I will say I see it happen 3+x a match all together when enough players are using it.

Except for the very first one where you see how it works, I've never failed a Defib, never seen a teammate fail a defib, and have never seen an opponent fail a defib. Possible SBMM differential at play but yeah.... it's not remotely difficult to use.
It hurts to see your teammate try to defib you when you're statue is in a plant hitbox and he can't get the revive. I have no way to tell him to just pick me up and throw me somewhere else (nobody turns on voice chat, there is no text chat), so he spends the time defibing the same spot 7 times and a heavy comes over to wreck him. Then we all wipe and my respawn is even longer.
Sharker Limetail Dec 23, 2023 @ 11:16pm 
Originally posted by AV:
Defib shouldn't make the revived person invincible. If a player decides to revive a person in a bad place, it should be way easier to punish. It's way OP.
I'm just gonna say it
Skill issue, OP wants free kills on revive
Invulnerability on defib is basically required for it to function so non existent problem. (it leaves you at half health anyway)
Last edited by Sharker Limetail; Dec 23, 2023 @ 11:17pm
AV Dec 23, 2023 @ 11:24pm 
Originally posted by Cartermanmcd:
Originally posted by AV:
Defib shouldn't make the revived person invincible. If a player decides to revive a person in a bad place, it should be way easier to punish. It's way OP.
I'm just gonna say it
Skill issue, OP wants free kills on revive
Invulnerability on defib is basically required for it to function so non existent problem. (it leaves you at half health anyway)

I'm just gonna say it
Learn to read/rtft

SOME shield is fine. Players being invulnerable several seconds after they've been up and moving is not. It turns 3v3s into 3v4/3v5s.
Sharker Limetail Dec 23, 2023 @ 11:26pm 
Originally posted by AV:
Originally posted by Cartermanmcd:
I'm just gonna say it
Skill issue, OP wants free kills on revive
Invulnerability on defib is basically required for it to function so non existent problem. (it leaves you at half health anyway)

I'm just gonna say it
Learn to read/rtft

SOME shield is fine. Players being invulnerable several seconds after they've been up and moving is not. It turns 3v3s into 3v4/3v5s.
Yeah thats, just a skill issue.
AV Dec 23, 2023 @ 11:27pm 
Originally posted by Cartermanmcd:
Originally posted by AV:

I'm just gonna say it
Learn to read/rtft

SOME shield is fine. Players being invulnerable several seconds after they've been up and moving is not. It turns 3v3s into 3v4/3v5s.
Yeah thats, just a skill issue.

Reading comprehension is a skill, yes,
Dhomochevsky Dec 23, 2023 @ 11:35pm 
Originally posted by AV:
Defib shouldn't make the revived person invincible. If a player decides to revive a person in a bad place, it should be way easier to punish. It's way OP.
are you high?
AV Dec 23, 2023 @ 11:36pm 
Originally posted by Dhomochevsky:
Originally posted by AV:
Defib shouldn't make the revived person invincible. If a player decides to revive a person in a bad place, it should be way easier to punish. It's way OP.
are you high?

Are you unaware that revived players get a blue shield that appears to last anywhere from 1-3+ seconds?
Angelica Dec 24, 2023 @ 5:56am 
Originally posted by AV:
Originally posted by Dhomochevsky:
are you high?

Are you unaware that revived players get a blue shield that appears to last anywhere from 1-3+ seconds?

3+ seconds invuln after a rez? lol ok dude now I know you're full of ♥♥♥♥, you're the only one I've ever seen whine about or have a problem with not being able to kill someone being revived. It's really a non issue, but you make it seem the devs need to fix it asap because it is ruining the game and is op or something lol, it isn't. Personally I've never had problems rezzing or killing someone after a rez to the degree that you make it sound like it's a game breaker or something, it really isn't but ok.
AllanWake™ Dec 24, 2023 @ 6:11am 
My question is; consistency?

1.One time someone revives a guy or me with full health other times with 10%ish.

2.One time i or someone deletes a revived guy instantly, OTHER times he has like 3sec immune to damage status (yes, i did shoot at fresh revives, whole mag when thru him and he ran way, didnt even get a hit marker)

P.S. the game is fully made AI f up.


#RIP-medium-class
AV Dec 24, 2023 @ 6:12am 
Originally posted by Stoopid Gurl:
Originally posted by AV:

Are you unaware that revived players get a blue shield that appears to last anywhere from 1-3+ seconds?

3+ seconds invuln after a rez? lol ok dude now I know you're full of ♥♥♥♥, you're the only one I've ever seen whine about or have a problem with not being able to kill someone being revived. It's really a non issue, but you make it seem the devs need to fix it asap because it is ruining the game and is op or something lol, it isn't. Personally I've never had problems rezzing or killing someone after a rez to the degree that you make it sound like it's a game breaker or something, it really isn't but ok.

In the time it took someone to get rezzed, then walk (not sprint) to a vent 10ft away, then crawl (not slide) through it, and for me to follow through cloaked and put 2 rounds into their spine, they were still blue shielded in one instance. I've been able to empty half a lewis pan into newly rezzed people without the blue shield going down.

Either some player actions remove the shield early or it's just outright inconsistent but when it persists it's quite asinine.
LukanGamer Dec 29, 2023 @ 12:35am 
I think they need to just go play Over 1.5 Mercy shows no mercy with her actual noticeable longer lasting revive shield.
Last edited by LukanGamer; Dec 29, 2023 @ 12:35am
Timeless Dec 29, 2023 @ 1:15am 
Honestly, there isn't an issue with defib and to find a way to nerf it would be overkill since you get brought back at half.

If you didn't know that then I understand the confusion.

But you guys know that reviving through defib brings you at half and you know there is about a few seconds of invinc apparently.

Soooo why not have a little trigger discipline?
Last edited by Timeless; Dec 29, 2023 @ 1:16am
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