Why is hipfire so RNG?

[Yung Gooner]

Such a dumb mechanic

[Ghazghkull]

then aim?

[Yung Gooner]

Originally posted by Gork:

then aim?

Why would you ADS 5m away when it also slows your walk speed immensely. Also when you get tazed you can't ADS. You shouldn't need to roll the dice to kill a light that tazes you in the face. The taze is a free kill right now. You should have to actually think when you use it...12m range....enemy can't move or ADS.

[Heatnixx]

Crouch. Crouching makes your hipfire incredibly precise at 5m.

[Arno Dübel]

High risk high reward

Go for the iron sights and be more precise for the movement tradeoff or try your luck with hipfire which is ofc less precise but you‘re faster…

I mean it‘s pretty selfexplanatory isn‘t it?
This isn‘t cs:go nor valorant it has different mechanics such like actual iron sights and most of the player base likes that.
If it isn‘t for you that‘s your problem.

[Yung Gooner]

Originally posted by Heatnixx:

Crouch. Crouching makes your hipfire incredibly precise at 5m.

Then you get headshot 15x in a row since you can barely strafe or move while crouched. I think it's dumb that you basically have to ADS at all ranges otherwise you just roll the dice, especially because ADS makes you move so slowly...remember when they advertised the game as a movement shooter lmao.

[Yung Gooner]

Originally posted by Arno Dübel:

High risk high reward

Go for the iron sights and be more precise for the movement tradeoff or try your luck with hipfire which is ofc less precise but you‘re faster…

I mean it‘s pretty selfexplanatory isn‘t it?
This isn‘t cs:go nor valorant it has different mechanics such like actual iron sights and most of the player base likes that.
If it isn‘t for you that‘s your problem.

The ironsights aren't even accurate when moving....it's all visual sway. Go test with a crosshair overlay and you can realise this game just has ♥♥♥♥♥♥ shooting and movement mechanics. A lot of the advertising was about the destruction and movement. Feels like a bait and switch for another moba shooter.

[IKnowGunFu]

The building destruction is pretty cool. Otherwise, it's not very unique.

[Dhomochevsky]

i wonder if you have ever shoot any firearm on real life heh

[Myztkl©-Kev]

hipfire used to be a lot better with most guns, they upped the bloom big time on most weapons since OB and it's not as reliable to hip fire up close anymore.

[Banjo]

i personally think headshot damage should be removed from basically all games, its a cheap mechanic that just leads to more auto aim cheats.

[Yung Gooner]

Originally posted by Dhomochevsky:

i wonder if you have ever shoot any firearm on real life heh

I have my firearms license. This game is not realistic at all and if that's your argument point shooting is accurate at closer ranges even from the low ready position. This is literally how SWAT teams may shoot when clearing rooms. Aiming down sights at close range in highly frenetic situations is just dumb.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XwC4RL-FpDE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fgDQXGye53I

[Dhomochevsky]

Originally posted by Jake:

Originally posted by Dhomochevsky:

i wonder if you have ever shoot any firearm on real life heh

I have my firearms license. This game is not realistic at all and if that's your argument point shooting is accurate at closer ranges even from the low ready position. This is literally how SWAT teams may shoot when clearing rooms. Aiming down sights at close range in highly frenetic situations is just dumb.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XwC4RL-FpDE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fgDQXGye53I

hip fire will never be accuarate

this must be the most accuarate shooting scene ever done https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=it15L0K-MjE

[Yung Gooner]

Originally posted by Banjo:

i personally think headshot damage should be removed from basically all games, its a cheap mechanic that just leads to more auto aim cheats.

I don't think this would help as even in CoD and Halo games on PC t here is a ton of aimbot and the headshot multiplier barely does anything in CoD. The headshot multiplier in this game also does very little compared to other FPS games with most of the guns. The AKM will kill a heavy in 1.70s with all body shots but only 1.10s with headshots while being significantly harder to land. Lewis gun 1.55s to body with 1.17s to head. Only the LH1 and sniper significantly benefit from headshots. I actually think headshots should do a lot more damage to reward aim.

[Yung Gooner]

Originally posted by Dhomochevsky:

Originally posted by Jake:

I have my firearms license. This game is not realistic at all and if that's your argument point shooting is accurate at closer ranges even from the low ready position. This is literally how SWAT teams may shoot when clearing rooms. Aiming down sights at close range in highly frenetic situations is just dumb.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XwC4RL-FpDE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fgDQXGye53I

hip fire will never be accuarate

it is actually quite accurate in reality at engagements under 10m. Instinctive shooting is a reality and lots of "cowboys" were shooting in that fashion for years.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CBNgqdfHMeY

[[Gio]]

Jerry himself literally says that could be effective at the end there. Also nobody wants hipfire to be 100% viable in the game but the way it is now it feels kinda bad