Rift of the NecroDancer

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How would one use 2 hands to play kb?
Hey everyone, i was just asking myself if there was anyone out there capable of explaining their way to play this game with two hands, since i recon that is gonna me mandatory if i even want to get somewhat going in hard/impossible:D
Like does the left hand do only the up-beats, while right hand handles left/right?(for example) What do the players do, that already spent alot of time in the demo?^^

Curious to find out of how you guys approach this=)
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Dandy Feb 6 @ 7:03am 
ive been thinking the same thing! i've been trying ASD and JKL bound to left up right respectively, while also enabling the "swap up and down input" thing in settings, but this still confuses my brain :(

would love to hear what others do!
zSult2n Feb 6 @ 7:37am 
Ok so the bindings I use were a bit complicated at first but they really changed everything once it clicked, they are:
Left -> 1 and P
Middle -> 2 and =
Right -> E and Backspace
All 3 -> Space and Alt
Vibe Power -> Tab and \

As you can see, 1, 2, E and Tab are for your left hand. While P, =, Backspace and Alt are for your right hand. I mostly use Tab and space with my left hand, though, but it's up to preference and how practiced you are (I'm not that good xD). With these I cleared the most intense songs on hard difficulty and the hard sections when mastered and practiced were very smooth and didn't cramp my hands unlike WASD/IJKL or arrows. Spend a couple hours in practice mode, and good luck!
P.S I don't take credit for these bindings, I took them from someone on YouTube, I lost their channel unfortunately.
I play with two hands by using a four key setup.
Z = Left
X = Up
Period (.) = Up Alt
Slash (/) = Right

Pressing both the alt key and regular key at the same time does not double tap, so you can just press all of your fingers down when the entire lane is full; it won't break your combo.
Last edited by Ajax Drinker; Feb 6 @ 7:48am
Bashmak Feb 6 @ 8:53am 
Originally posted by Ajax Drinker:
I play with two hands by using a four key setup.
Z = Left
X = Up
Period (.) = Up Alt
Slash (/) = Right

Pressing both the alt key and regular key at the same time does not double tap, so you can just press all of your fingers down when the entire lane is full; it won't break your combo.
Did you somehow set it up in the settings so that when you press alt and a regular key there would be no double click?
Last edited by Bashmak; Feb 6 @ 8:54am
Dandy Feb 6 @ 8:54am 
Originally posted by Bashmak:
Originally posted by Ajax Drinker:
I play with two hands by using a four key setup.
Z = Left
X = Up
Period (.) = Up Alt
Slash (/) = Right

Pressing both the alt key and regular key at the same time does not double tap, so you can just press all of your fingers down when the entire lane is full; it won't break your combo.
Did you somehow set it up in the settings so that when you press alt and a regular key there would be no press-click?

was about to ask the same thing, just tried similar binds and pushing both ends my combo :(
Originally posted by Bashmak:
Originally posted by Ajax Drinker:
I play with two hands by using a four key setup.
Z = Left
X = Up
Period (.) = Up Alt
Slash (/) = Right

Pressing both the alt key and regular key at the same time does not double tap, so you can just press all of your fingers down when the entire lane is full; it won't break your combo.
Did you somehow set it up in the settings so that when you press alt and a regular key there would be no double click?

Okay now that I've actually paid attention to how I play, I literally never use my left index finger to press X unless the notes are really fast, and pressing all four does indeed result in a double tap. I guess I just never noticed, but ZX ./ are indeed still the keybinds I use, I just almost never use X autonomously I guess.

My bad.
Cirnon Feb 6 @ 10:20am 
I like having my hand more straight so i use the numpad for the right hand.
Left = A / numpad 4
Middle = S / numpad 5
Right = D / numpad 6

As for how i play, most of the time i press left with my left hand and middle/right with my right hand but for harder songs i swap which hand presses middle to fit the situation.

Just make sure to not press middle on both at the same time or you'll get a miss, might take some getting used to but i'd do a similar layout on most rhythm games i play and it's the most comfortable i'd found for keyboard playing.
Blurrg Feb 6 @ 9:23pm 
Ummm, hard to say really. I've watched other people play impossible tracks, and I've also FC'd the impossible tracks in the demo. I have to say that the way I play with two hands is actually quite different from other people. I think a lot of it comes down to (1) figuring out the pattern itself, and (2) finding a way to comfortably execute the pattern.

Even simple patterns can cause variation of how people do things, so heres an example where I use WASD and Arrow Keys (where I swap Down and Up) for inputs (sorry it looks like crap, steam forum formatting isn't friendly):

Track === Me === Others
X_X === A_D === A_→
_X_ === _↓_ === _↓_
X_X === A_D === A_→
_X_ === _↓_ === _↓_

For each individual "difficult" pattern, strategies will vary from person to person, so you should figure out whats comfortable for yourself. If you just want to train your other hand, I recommend starting off playing hard songs, and forcing your non-dominant hand to play a single key (left hand plays Left only or right hand plays Right only), that will help train your rhythm.

Good luck!
Last edited by Blurrg; Feb 6 @ 9:38pm
Leif Feb 6 @ 10:10pm 
Thanks to everyone for the numerous answers so far, ill be sure to check out some of these settings over the weekend:D I tried a few 2-hand keybinds now and am unfortunately at the point of [wanting^^] to progress the story (on hard) and to me atm it still actually feels easier one handed, since thats the way I started off^^
Thanks again for the answers, happy to hear that others are out there looking aswell:)
I use two hands for four things: mechanically complex inputs (such as the starting armadillo section in Overthinker impossible), long sustains where I need my main hand for the non-sustain notes, lots of sustains in sequence (because its easier to alternate hands), and sections where two patterns are occurring simultaneously (the blademaster heavy sections of Ravenge Impossible).
Zelxios Feb 7 @ 12:50pm 
i just use WASD with the arrow keys. this setup gives my hands more room. using more of the letters on the KB my hands are too close
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