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I really dislike Ichiban, so I was massively looking forward to each time I got to go back to Kiryu, but I also do realize that it is fair to say that he wasn't given enough room to breathe and develop.
He started a childish, but good hearted, moron. He ended a childish, but good hearted, moron. There was no journey and no arc to him. No development of any kind. If anything they regressed him from the previous game and undid some development.
Maybe if Kiryu had not been around, he'd have had more screen time to squeeze something in to make him less a flat, two dimensional twit.
That said...they also did KIRYU dirty in this game.
The fact that Kiryu is still alive went MASSIVELY PUBLIC! This should have had giant, far reaching consequences that just NEVER HAPPEN. It was a earth shaking event. Every single one of the kids from the orphanage should have been seeking him out for example, but, welp, ain't got time for that.
We need to check in with Ichiban.
Ain't got time to actually resolve anything between him and the super toxic Saeko who I can't stand. We got to get back to Kiryu. Ain't got time to see his reunions and stuff. Got to end the game.
This game was half baked, but it suffered a lot because it just couldn't decide what it wanted to be.
And I think a large part of that is because, whatever they say, RGG knows that they have a huge protagonist problem on their hands.
They never finished fully with one before switching to the other, because they were trying to split the difference and aren't sure that Ichiban is as broadly acceptable as Kiryu is. (He isn't, IMO. I tuned into this game mostly because I wanted to see what happened with Kiryu and the cancer thing, not because I give half a flying **** about Ichiban's dating life.)
But Ichi has been done no favors with the massively bungled transition and poor handoff and the biggest problem is that they created a leading man who isn't SMART ENOUGH to be a leading man. He'd be a TREMENDOUS supporting character, but they wasted a whole game making him DUMBER instead of smarter.
Now then. Rant over.
Maybe have Kiryu do side games instead of hogging time in Ichis games?
I like Ichi and his team though. It is like a childish game with cruelness and funny events and battles, but you know, still kinda a heartwarming story for me, at least the first one like a dragon game.
Now we are getting another spin off about pirates and stuff. Well it's yakuza I guess. A story about Japan and its own people or something. But I will skip the rest of the series for now. Not my type of a game to be a pirate or samurai, yeah.
At some moments the series been even dark and dramatic enough, but in my opinion, yakuza is still a great game to play on holidays or maybe birthdays.
And to me, honestly, this is also 100% fair.
Now, granted and obviously, Ichi and the Scooby Gang has caught on more with you (and in fairness plenty of others) more than me. So just fully committing to him and finally leaving Kiryu out of things wouldn't be MY preference.
But I do think that RGG needs to COMMIT one way or the other. Dragging Kiryu back over and over again and having him (IMO, but YMMV) outshining Ichi each time JUST ISN'T FAIR TO ICHI. Worse, it shows a lack of confidence in your new leading man by the writers.
I think they are afraid that if they leave Kiryu out, those who are really ONLY invested in Kiryu aren't going to stick around. This is a fair concern. Ichi has NOT hooked me enough that I'd buy a new LAD game with Kiryu gone and just Ichi at this point at full price. I very likely would on a sale at some point.
This is, however, not a problem that gets fixed if you keep helicoptering Kiryu in while assuring us that, no, seriously, Ichi's The Man now. He's the future. Well, if he is, then you need to let him succeed or fail on his own, both as a character and as marketing for your game.
Unfortunately, they have already kind of sabotaged the poor dumb, good hearted schmuck for the next game by ending THIS game...on what's going on with Kiryu. We get assured at the very end of the game by KIRYU HIMSELF that Ichi is the future.
So what does the game itself then turnaround and do?
The final fight in the game is Kiryu's. And the final cutscene of the game is Kiryu's.
Ichi gets slapstick comedy showing he's learned absolutely nothing of what torpedoed him with Saeko at the beginning of the game, and then we switch to Kiryu and are left wondering, "He DOES beat the cancer right? Seems like he does? And now Haruka and everyone else knows he's alive right? So where are we going next with this? I want to see!"
In other words, the hook for the next game, unless you're SUPER INVESTED (for some reason since she's terrible) on watching the wacky adventures of Ichi's dating life, is once again...
Kiryu.
It will be forever impossible to convince a lot of long term fans of the series to be emotionally invested in Ichi if you forever keep having him overshadowed by the guy they have known for much longer and have much more previous investment in unfinished and always coming back in to overshadow the new guy.
Either go fully back to Kiryu (my preference) or stay fully with Ichi (not my preference, but fully understandable) but quit screwing around waffling back and forth.
One or the other please RGG.
I was excited for another solo Majima game, but it looks like an expansion for Y8...to reuse all those Hawaiian assets.
Speaking of, how can mad dog be the hero of a game when hes killed so many? I 'know' Kiryu is innocent and NEVER killed a soul...but its the opposite with Majama.
Rubber knives I guess...
I can answer this for you.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OrVLOvJFtzM
Never been a fan of Majima myself, especially if we remember how the series first began. Majima were very cartoonish character that could appear everywhere in the city and attack Kiryu....
Years later they made an attempt to deepen Majimas soul character for us with Yakuza 0. But it still feels for me like a plot for a very different story and later they went for making this concept for Majima. Romantic piece of story was really great, but they ended it in the same game. Yeah we actually have got a bit of cinematic ending in Kiwamis games, but you know, they were so really small pieces, that we wont spend much time on answers, besides odl players as me anyway mostly knew what is going t ohappen to Majimas story.
Ichi deserve his solid stand alone game or his end of story after all :)
https://youtu.be/HlHAZzFoKGU?feature=shared
It's canon from RGG, no matter how ridiculous it is.
IN THIS VERY GAME that we're in a discussion forum of, Kiryu threw a grenade into a helicopter. The helicopter exploded and then plunged all the way down to the ground from near the top of the Millennium Tower.
Whomever was in that helicopter is dead as hell.
But, canonically, again this is from RGG, Kiryu has both never killed anybody before and, also, remains a virgin. No matter how many Cabernet Club hostesses you may have charmed in the past playing him.
One guy at RGG wanted an old school mafia hit, didn't know the guy was going to be a hero next game...oops.