They ruined Yakuza

[Kai]

Im bored of this game already, doesnt feel like a Yakuza game, too much side crap and the combat is boring as hell, except for Kiryus part, the story is boring too. Only gonna keep up to finish the story for Kiryu but not buying another one of these again, shouldve just watched off the story on youtube.

[SHINRA-CORP]

Tbh this game was very mid. I think what made it hard for the developers is LaD7 was such a hit that it's very hard to hit that target again.

But they really fumbled the bag with the story it feels very convoluted/all over the place. The part that really made the story go south for me was when they first get to the orphanage. They really try to shove down your throat how nice Ichibans mum is. To the point it was comical and completely unrealistic it's like shes the 2nd coming of Jesus. From the moment I knew the story was just going to be stupid and I was right.

[Mixedbeats18]

You can try put fault on Ichiban a bit or if you want, just saying the story needs the main charatcher going forward

[Ryan]

"Not buying another one of these again"

Jesus, dude. You act like every franchise is either 100% banger or 100% failure. Some entries aren't as good as the others and some outright suck, but that doesn't mean future entries won't be as good or better.

[Sacrefice]

Aside from the last sentence, i agree. The Ichiban part of the story is just weird. In Lad he was the always positive and charismatic good guy that never lost hope but here you have the feeling they tried to put as much shonen manga bs into his character as possible. The worst offender being this "power of friendship crap" and making him a naive idiot that acts like hes 12 and not 43. It really kills my enjoyment of the story, skipping every part where he speaks because its just another recyceled anime trope. Yes Lad had these moments too but they were very rare compared to IW.

[phaysed]

I think its great.

[Lord Adorable]

See you next game!

[diego473747]

Another "ugh yakuza was better when it was a brawler" thread

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[diego473747]

Originally posted by Sacrefice:

Aside from the last sentence, i agree. The Ichiban part of the story is just weird. In Lad he was the always positive and charismatic good guy that never lost hope but here you have the feeling they tried to put as much shonen manga bs into his character as possible. The worst offender being this "power of friendship crap" and making him a naive idiot that acts like hes 12 and not 43. It really kills my enjoyment of the story, skipping every part where he speaks because its just another recyceled anime trope. Yes Lad had these moments too but they were very rare compared to IW.

>they tried to put as much shonen manga bs into his character as possible
>recyceled anime trope

Are you really comparing an anime trope to a non anime game? are u ok?

[aris666]

Got to chapter 8 and excitement of playing game just vanished. Dual protagonist was huge mistake especially when one of them is treated as second coming of Jesus. I understand that Kiryu is supposed to be "big" character im the series at moment - but leave him in a supporting role if you want to deify him by other characters. It seems I will just have to rush to the ending before feeling of wanting to drop the game comes.

[Ruperto]

Originally posted by aris666:

Got to chapter 8 and excitement of playing game just vanished. Dual protagonist was huge mistake especially when one of them is treated as second coming of Jesus. I understand that Kiryu is supposed to be "big" character im the series at moment - but leave him in a supporting role if you want to deify him by other characters. It seems I will just have to rush to the ending before feeling of wanting to drop the game comes.

Besides, they totally wasted the double protagonist thing by not doing what they did in Yakuza or in every certain chapter changing between ichiban or Kiryu and the latter having the brawler and ichiban RPG gameplay... but not sneaking the RPG into Kiryu as well was a total disrespect

[Ka-mai19]

Originally posted by Sacrefice:

Aside from the last sentence, i agree. The Ichiban part of the story is just weird. In Lad he was the always positive and charismatic good guy that never lost hope but here you have the feeling they tried to put as much shonen manga bs into his character as possible. The worst offender being this "power of friendship crap" and making him a naive idiot that acts like hes 12 and not 43. It really kills my enjoyment of the story, skipping every part where he speaks because its just another recyceled anime trope. Yes Lad had these moments too but they were very rare compared to IW.

...did you pay attention while playing LAD? One of Kasuga's major shticks is treating his circumstances as a Dragon Quest adventure. If you didn't catch on to the fact that the guy is childlike you must be dense af.

[Ruperto]

Originally posted by Ka-mai19:

Originally posted by Sacrefice:

Aside from the last sentence, i agree. The Ichiban part of the story is just weird. In Lad he was the always positive and charismatic good guy that never lost hope but here you have the feeling they tried to put as much shonen manga bs into his character as possible. The worst offender being this "power of friendship crap" and making him a naive idiot that acts like hes 12 and not 43. It really kills my enjoyment of the story, skipping every part where he speaks because its just another recyceled anime trope. Yes Lad had these moments too but they were very rare compared to IW.

...did you pay attention while playing LAD? One of Kasuga's major shticks is treating his circumstances as a Dragon Quest adventure. If you didn't catch on to the fact that the guy is childlike you must be dense af.

That is the main problem with both games, they gave us that gameplay only because the character is a ♥♥♥♥♥♥ who thinks he is in Dragon Quest.

I mean, it's like seeing myself at 11 years old imagining my classmates as 128-bit characters.

[Ka-mai19]

Originally posted by Gonzalin:

That is the main problem with both games, they gave us that gameplay only because the character is a ♥♥♥♥♥♥ who thinks he is in Dragon Quest.

I mean, it's like seeing myself at 11 years old imagining my classmates as 128-bit characters.

I don't think it's retarded to take an optimistic, childish approach to life as a way to combat harsh reality. Also Kasuga is childish, sure, but he still takes on very adult challenges and solves adult problems. That's why he's great. Otherwise he'd have been stuck as Nanba or Adachi. Either being homeless or stuck in a dead-end life.

[ThundraBoy]

Originally posted by aris666:

Got to chapter 8 and excitement of playing game just vanished. Dual protagonist was huge mistake especially when one of them is treated as second coming of Jesus. I understand that Kiryu is supposed to be "big" character im the series at moment - but leave him in a supporting role if you want to deify him by other characters. It seems I will just have to rush to the ending before feeling of wanting to drop the game comes.

True. As somebody who never played anything besides Y7, I just got to chapter 8 and I'm bored out of my mind. I have 0 connection to all the characters Kiryu is meeting and I'm just hoping to get back to Hawaii quick. Probably just me, but I thought they kinda rebooted the series, him, and especially his backstory, playing such a huge part in this is a major bummer - I would have gone and played old the titles for this to have more impact, but now the major plot points of those are spoiled for me anyway, so meh. Just hope gets a honorable death at the end and future games will only focus on new characters.

[BeefoTheBold]

Originally posted by Ka-mai19:

Originally posted by Gonzalin:

That is the main problem with both games, they gave us that gameplay only because the character is a ♥♥♥♥♥♥ who thinks he is in Dragon Quest.

I mean, it's like seeing myself at 11 years old imagining my classmates as 128-bit characters.

I don't think it's retarded to take an optimistic, childish approach to life as a way to combat harsh reality. Also Kasuga is childish, sure, but he still takes on very adult challenges and solves adult problems. That's why he's great. Otherwise he'd have been stuck as Nanba or Adachi. Either being homeless or stuck in a dead-end life.

Ichi doesn't solve jack ****.

Everyone around him basically solves everything for him. Take, for example, his arrival in Hawaii.

He immediately gets scammed by Eiji. He then gets scammed by Tomizawa. He then gets scammed by Chitose. By the time Kiryu finally arrives to basically bail him out of trouble and give him some adult guidance he's just escaped the police in handcuffs after waking up naked on a beach because he got scammed.

He never solves any of his problems in this entire game.

Can't figure out how to ask Saeko on a date? Adachi and Nanba give him the push he needs.

Can't figure out what to do, wear, or say on a date? Adachi and Nanba.

Can't figure out what went wrong with your WEDDING PROPOSAL after your first date? Nanba and Adachi step in as an interpreter...and then later in the game Kiryu finished that part by pointing out that he never told Saeko that he loves her.

Don't bother writing down or memorizing the address you were given Like A Dummy and are SOL after Tomizawa eats the envelope? Eiji solves that one for him. (AFTER Eiji solves his first problem with the police with video evidence of his innocence.)

Can't figure out how to get Saeko to talk with you again? Kiryu helps him out with that too. (We're going to set aside the fact that Saeko was a complete beeatch for ghosting him and not explaining herself where he messed up since romance aside they are supposed to be friends...aside from proposing on a first date to begin with.)

Time after time, it isn't Ichi solving anything resembling an adult problem unless it involves punching people. It's his friends (and even sometimes his enemies) stepping in and covering for him.

Ichiban is the living embodiment of how god looks out for fools.