Yong Yea

[CDI Mario]

Im playing it in english, ♥♥♥♥♥♥ crucify me, But after a while Kiryus voice got better. at first its bad, Its just Yong yea but slightly off but around the end of chapter 3 i noticed it getting much better, They changed the direction he was doing on the voice and its much better.

[retsa2b]

Try not to hear how he exhales at the end of almost every single sentence. Evidently, in his subconscious mind, exhaling at the ends of sentences equates to "tough guy with a low voice".

[CDI Mario]

Originally posted by retsa2b:

Try not to hear how he exhales at the end of almost every single sentence. Evidently, in his subconscious mind, exhaling at the ends of sentences equates to "tough guy with a low voice".

Yea plus i can equate that to cancer

[Yílõng Má]

Yong Yea is never going better though. You're experiencing Stockholm syndrome.

[CDI Mario]

Originally posted by Yílõng Má:

Yong Yea is never going better though. You're experiencing Stockholm syndrome.

Im not saying hes perfect, but hes not horrible in this one. im only on chapter 4 and ive already seen its gets better. he was worse in Gaiden, im not going to defend that

[ffrasisti [ARG]]

I hate how he's so bad he made me switch off the eng dub which i liked. I really really need a mod that just removes HIM and makes kiryu just speak japanese in the eng dub

[Dax_B]

Originally posted by ffrasisti ARG:

I hate how he's so bad he made me switch off the eng dub which i liked. I really really need a mod that just removes HIM and makes kiryu just speak japanese in the eng dub

This is everybody's hope. My gaming group are all hoping for a mod that inserts Japanese Kiryu into the English version (I wouldn't call it a dub as the facial animations are tailored to the language)

[retsa2b]

Originally posted by Dax_B:

(I wouldn't call it a dub as the facial animations are tailored to the language)

As long as they do it right, this isn't how it works. Once you've re-bundled the dialogue package, well, the lip data is part of the package. So obviously you're going to migrate that as well...

[SoulEchelon]

People calling him bad should be taking it up with RGG, not Yong. They listened to his demo reel, they were fine with his portrayal of English Kiryu, they hired him, and they were also the ones who gave him the vocal direction he ended up using. if I remember correctly, Kuroda and Darryl also approved of his portrayal.....that said...

I feel Yong being hired was because of two things. One - Darryl is pretty much retired. He voiced Kiryu only twice - first in 2005 for Yakuza 1 and a handful of lines in Like a Dragon. Most of the Yakuza games didn't have english voice overs. In the post where he approved of Yong, he stated Yong was a "Dedicated actor". Darryl at the moment isn't. Two - in that same exact post, he states "a dedicated actor who more closely matches Kiryu's culture." I feel that's a not-so-subtle nod to the West's current desire to make sure a voice actor's race fits the character. I find that absolutely stupid, but it's a big possibility that's what happened here.

Anyways for me personally, I watch Yong's vids quite a bit so it's hard for me to not hear him when listening to Kiryu. But I'll probably stick to the English dub for the majority of the game because I did so with Like a Dragon and it kinda spoiled me. Was nice actually understanding the little vocal cues that don't have subtitles, and I really enjoy Ichiban's English VA Kaiji Tang.

Will probably switch to JP though during Kiryu's "Bucket List" sidequests. It'd feel wrong not to.

[CDI Mario]

Originally posted by ffrasisti ARG:

I hate how he's so bad he made me switch off the eng dub which i liked. I really really need a mod that just removes HIM and makes kiryu just speak japanese in the eng dub

I dont think kiryu will be around much longer in the series so you wont have to deal with Yong for very long

[retsa2b]

Originally posted by SoulEchelon:

They listened to his demo reel, they were fine with his portrayal of English Kiryu

It is a near certainty that RGG had exactly as much to do with this casting choice as they do with the miserably inaccurate and often outright reinvented localization. All signs point to SEGA leaving everything about the English versions in their localizers' hands. I distinctly recall watching a video about the "Kasuga encounters somebody speaking English" substory and how the localizers pushed the jolly idea of having Kasuga do a deadpan fourth wall glance, which RGG implemented for them. That was the localizers' idea. SEGA just does what they suggest, and that's the end of that decision making.

Originally posted by SoulEchelon:

if I remember correctly, Kuroda and Darryl also approved of his portrayal....,

I had a feeling somebody would eventually bring this up.

Think about what you're saying. Try to imagine the opposite scenario. One or another of those two says they're kind of meh on the casting. It would have been an absolute SH--SHOW. Which anyone with an Intuition of 1 could predict. Which in turn makes these "endorsements" 100.00% meaningless—purely for show, for the handful of people who were legitimately seeking assurances AND didn't even possess that Intuition of 1.

[Dustorm]

Originally posted by ffrasisti ARG:

I hate how he's so bad he made me switch off the eng dub which i liked. I really really need a mod that just removes HIM and makes kiryu just speak japanese in the eng dub

This is some DLC I'd pay for.

[DJ ShadowBlade]

He sounds like he's 20 when his character is like 50, just bad casting even if he was a good VA he doesn't sound old enough

[SoulEchelon]

Originally posted by retsa2b:

Originally posted by SoulEchelon:

They listened to his demo reel, they were fine with his portrayal of English Kiryu

It is a near certainty that RGG had exactly as much to do with this casting choice as they do with the miserably inaccurate and often outright reinvented localization. All signs point to SEGA leaving everything about the English versions in their localizers' hands. I distinctly recall watching a video about the "Kasuga encounters somebody speaking English" substory and how the localizers pushed the jolly idea of having Kasuga do a deadpan fourth wall glance, which RGG implemented for them. That was the localizers' idea. SEGA just does what they suggest, and that's the end of that decision making.

Originally posted by SoulEchelon:

if I remember correctly, Kuroda and Darryl also approved of his portrayal....,

I had a feeling somebody would eventually bring this up.

Think about what you're saying. Try to imagine the opposite scenario. One or another of those two says they're kind of meh on the casting. It would have been an absolute SH--SHOW. Which anyone with an Intuition of 1 could predict. Which in turn makes these "endorsements" 100.00% meaningless—purely for show, for the handful of people who were legitimately seeking assurances AND didn't even possess that Intuition of 1.

It's as if you just picked two sentences out of my whole entire post and went with it without any context towards the rest of it. Not at all surprised. This wasn't a defense towards Yong's casting. It was an explanation. And whether it was RGG or Sega who did the casting (You don't know at all who officially OK'd his casting, stop acting like you do. Basing your rant on a "NEAR CERTAINTY" is dumb), the explanation still holds water.

And if you had read a bit more carefully instead of gotten mad, you would've noticed I wasn't showcasing which side I was on at all. "Think about what you're saying" I was giving direct information and speculations buddy, not opinions. My opinion was the final paragraph, and it was purely towards what dub I was going to use. The only other opinion I made was about voice actors having to be the same race as the character they're voice acting which, from the sound of your rant about localization, we both agree is stupid. I swear people try to get into a dumb useless internet argument all the ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ time nowadays.

Not gonna waste time with an argument especially when I wasn't going for one, so don't expect an answer back if you try to argue some more. Gonna go play this video game now.

[Stoibs]

I just got up to chapter 3.
Why is Yong Yea doing some... weird old timey 'Gumshoe' accent?
He may as well drop a Hey sweetheart, I like the cut of your jib since it sounds so hilariously out-of-character and not at all what he's sounded like all this time. Way too young also.

I decided to reserve judgement and not jump on the hate-wagon until hearing it firsthand myself but yeah.. wow it really is that bad.
I would also use a Kiryu-only Japanese replacement mod if I could.

[Hellsteeth30]

I think I've developed an internal filter so I got used to it.

It really does stick out though. I'm used to him being a couple of octaves lower, maybe 4.

He's trying to be a tough sounding Yong Yea instead of Kiryu.