The Beginning of the End?

[Hasazin]

I think most of us who have taken time to play the latest update before it was reverted would generally agree that it had some problems as well as many interesting and fresh things to experience due to all the changes.
I think we would also look at the current action of the developers to revert the update as a gross misstep at the very least. Especially with how little time the full update had actually been in the hands of players.

Now I think the current action if not evaluated and rectified could very easily lead the developer to a point where they fail to develop the game going forward due to fear of even the most minor of critique and/or criticism.

I think the above thought is reasonable due to how extreme the action taken has been in this case, with how so little of the player base had actually spoken about the update prior to the reversion. If anything the responses on the post talking about the reverting of the update shows how the majority of the players had no clue what was going on and/or how it could lead to such excessive action.

I can only ask that the developers at least try to alleviate the above concern caused by their drastic action (which I can only think of a short sighted).

After being surprised and then shocked about this reversion and then taking several hours to think about it. I have notably soured on the potential thought processes that would lead to this action and how seemingly little the developers must have looked at to draw their conclusions.

Yes, the title is dramatic.
No, this is not a joke post.
Yes, I am genuinely concerned about the game going forward now.
No, you're not going to change my mind that the reversion was both a poorly conceived idea and a potential critical misstep for the development of the game.

Discuss.

[RayXorn]

I agree with your post, decision seemed too rash too quick. I didn't have time to try all reworked weapons, builds and the new survivor in depth. Yes flawed for sure, but had potential. We were too used to stacking negative debuffs builds so I was really excited about the buffs and new synergies.

Tbh, why did they rolled it back after a few seemingly vocal minority complained when for months most people have complained about the core designs: collision, AOE spam, HP bullet sponge scale etc. that however rubs me the wrong way, more than this flawed but fun reworked system.

[Onyx]

I didn't even know there was an update until I saw news that it was reverted..

[Szorrin]

Less than two days, that's how long the update was up for. At the very least they should've left it up over the weekend, a lot of people didn't even get to try it. This was clearly a knee-jerk reaction to a vocal minority review-bombing the game.

What does this say about the dev's faith in their own design choices if they're this easily bullied into undoing their changes?

[carp]

I mean, they were worried about something pretty practical: their reviews dropping to "Mostly positive." I'm not gonna say they weren't hasty, but I think it's likely this is not a crisis of confidence, but rather them misreading a small-scale tantrum as a pattern that would continue and have explicit negative effects.

The REAL issue is, they did the update largely because people wouldn't shut up about how much they hated dodging around frantically. And then people play the update, and a big complaint is that things are too slow-paced. That's not an unsolvable problem, but it indicates they really have two completely different audiences to try to please, here.

[B the Self]

Originally posted by RayXorn:

I agree with your post, decision seemed too rash too quick. I didn't have time to try all reworked weapons, builds and the new survivor in depth. Yes flawed for sure, but had potential. We were too used to stacking negative debuffs builds so I was really excited about the buffs and new synergies.

Tbh, why did they rolled it back after a few seemingly vocal minority complained when for months most people have complained about the core designs: collision, AOE spam, HP bullet sponge scale etc. that however rubs me the wrong way, more than this flawed but fun reworked system.

You done have time? just go to beta branch, what do you mean?????

[B the Self]

If it ain't broken done fix it.
They are the ones that moved away from their own vision trying to push unneeded changes.

And to all of you saying the update is lost ? just got to beta branch and activate it , it's that simple as 2 clicks

[NotxEevee]

Originally posted by carp:

I mean, they were worried about something pretty practical: their reviews dropping to "Mostly positive." I'm not gonna say they weren't hasty, but I think it's likely this is not a crisis of confidence, but rather them misreading a small-scale tantrum as a pattern that would continue and have explicit negative effects.

A 'small scale' tantrum that managed to reduce the rating of the game isn't small scale.

[Challenger Zero]

We live in a consumerism world, and the name of the game is please the customer. In the end, whatever people might think, it is still a business, created to sell. When faced with an avalanche of negative feedback, they saw one thing that could happen, and that is the players, or at least a chunk of them. The problem appears when the players literally dictate how games must be.

[FDru]

I started playing after the update so it's a little weird cause I really only bought the game cause it got a big update (was on the fence before).

Yeh I could go play the beta or whatever but what's the point... any bugs and issues won't be addressed since it's not a live update.

[Lily]

Wait, the patch got reversed? I wanted to buy the game due to it. Now I am disappointed. The changes sounded decent and got me interested.

[BrziKorak]

Originally posted by Lily:

Wait, the patch got reversed? I wanted to buy the game due to it. Now I am disappointed. The changes sounded decent and got me interested.

The developers gave very clear instructions on how to play the new update regardless of the rollback. If that was your reason to delay the purchase, I would recommend that you just buy the game.

[Szorrin]

Originally posted by NotxEevee:

Originally posted by carp:

I mean, they were worried about something pretty practical: their reviews dropping to "Mostly positive." I'm not gonna say they weren't hasty, but I think it's likely this is not a crisis of confidence, but rather them misreading a small-scale tantrum as a pattern that would continue and have explicit negative effects.

A 'small scale' tantrum that managed to reduce the rating of the game isn't small scale.

113 negative reviews were posted after the update. That sounds like a vocal minority to me.

[B the Self]

Originally posted by Szorrin:

Originally posted by NotxEevee:

A 'small scale' tantrum that managed to reduce the rating of the game isn't small scale.

113 negative reviews were posted after the update. That sounds like a vocal minority to me.

How do you expect them to be more of the rolled it back in a couple of days , it would of have grown higher and higher over time until game loses score .

Get a pair of glasses this is revenue for them, if they get negative reviews people don't buy the game , you have to be blind or too egoistic to notice anything

[Cyda]

I think, before they ditch this latest update, they should create a poll for players so everyone gets chance to have a vote on what happens, not just the vocal minority that caused this roll-back.

If a vote was created on the games home screen, so only players who own the game could vote, and let them decide if the latest update should be kept or rolled back. Announce the poll and let it run for a week, and THEN make a decision based off all the players votes.

[Szorrin]

Originally posted by MrWorthy:

Originally posted by Szorrin:

113 negative reviews were posted after the update. That sounds like a vocal minority to me.

How do you expect them to be more of the rolled it back in a couple of days , it would of have grown higher and higher over time until game loses score .

Get a pair of glasses this is revenue for them, if they get negative reviews people don't buy the game , you have to be blind or too egoistic to notice anything

Sure, except there were also 75 positive reviews before the update got reverted, and considering most people who were positive about the game were busy playing it, and not complaining in the discussions or review bombing, that's a lot. And after the update got reverted, another 134 positive reviews were posted, most of them in defense of the new update.

All the devs had to do was post an announcement asking about feedback for the new update to bring awareness to what was happening, maybe post a poll, instead of the knee-jerk reaction that they went with.