Why TOF failed

[IceCube]

I'm not saying this game is dead, I still play this game and this game has plenty of good things like the big open world. But obviously it did a horrible job at retaining players and I think most people already know why.

However I still have to complain the incredibly unoptimized mess this game has become. I play this game on my iphone (and my phone has pretty good specs). Bro even after all these years, the game still crashes from time to time. And now because I have to do some events on the new map (you know the one with the futuristic city), the game constantly crashes whenever I try to do something, like I run for a few meters, the game crashes, I turn around the camera, the game crashes, I click on something, the game crashes. Holy Cow! I can't even do anything without crashing the game. By the way, I have Wuwa, Mihoyo's games all installed on my phone and they run without problem. What is this? If this is how you're gonna run Neverness to Everness, you can forget about launching that game.

I was thinking about running this game on Steam, but then I saw the space required is like 90GB. Devs, why did you waste so much resources on adding so much boring useless content into the game, I bet the majority of players never bother to do any of those side stuff. Is it that hard to make an good Anime gacha game? The story in this game is really mediocre, it's like story for kids, I'd say you can cut like half of the dialogue and just make it short and sweet. All you need is good optimization, good combat, good graphics, good character customization, good exploration, lots of mobs to kill, lots of bosses to defeat, lots of stuff to loot, plenty of things to upgrade, good PVE and PVP and that's it. Also I don't know why they make this a MMORPG, the MMO aspect of this game is completely pointless.

I'm writing because I hope the devs learned their lesson and don't repeat the same mistake with NRT. You don't need to add 10 million extra things to do in a game to make it interesting, it's the core features like find and kill mobs or bosses either by yourself or with other players that's actually rewarding, and not ruining the game with power creep and other sh1t later on. That's the thing that's gonna keep players interested in long term. The amount of useless content this game has is mind-boggling. It's like if I stopped playing this game for a few months and then I came back to this game, I would just feel super confused as to what to do and where to go.

Dude all I have to say is this game has such potential but is really a huge disappointment. And that actually makes me sad, man what a waste. Hopefully the devs will learn from their mistakes, because if they don't, it's gonna be another failure for their new game.

[Crystal Sharrd]

I think the story is pretty good, though I'm currently up to Innars and I'm told it's Domain 9 where things take a turn for the worse.
But the game's more enjoyable than others in the genre.

[Usagi Suki ☆]

YOUR ONLY SAYING THIS FROM AN IPHONE PERSPECITIVE THO. Theres other things like mixed graphics that show weird things on my screen

[TrioAngelamVA.WliaAlfaD.A.S]

While i agree that ToF is far from perfect its far from fail if it was that bad it would be dead by now lets be honest.
Problem is yes the gacha its dreadfull and pushes ppl of,the mobile port of the game is also not good i admit but you cant compare that to genshin since im dead sure mihoyo makes sure the phone version is top notch since thats most likely where they hit the most ToF does not.
As for the story its not all that bad (def seen worse) and im pretty sure ToF is still around since (least not anymore) there was no real or least decent Sci-fi anime online game (sure there is pso2 but thats more dressing game at this point) we see how badly it will do with some of the new stuff that comes now but again its far from fail there are companys that did worse with some games that died faster and didnt even had massive predatory gacha.
As for size of the game on PC ? im afraid games of today all be around 50 to 100 gigs range.

[Crystal Sharrd]

Originally posted by TrioAngelamVA.WliaAlfaD.A.S:

While i agree that ToF is far from perfect its far from fail if it was that bad it would be dead by now lets be honest.
Problem is yes the gacha its dreadfull and pushes ppl of,the mobile port of the game is also not good i admit but you cant compare that to genshin since im dead sure mihoyo makes sure the phone version is top notch since thats most likely where they hit the most ToF does not.
As for the story its not all that bad (def seen worse) and im pretty sure ToF is still around since (least not anymore) there was no real or least decent Sci-fi anime online game (sure there is pso2 but thats more dressing game at this point) we see how badly it will do with some of the new stuff that comes now but again its far from fail there are companys that did worse with some games that died faster and didnt even had massive predatory gacha.
As for size of the game on PC ? im afraid games of today all be around 50 to 100 gigs range.

Yeah, the New Genesis expansion for PSO2 is not as good as the base game, even if it's gotten better since the base game.

One of the reasons I think Tower of Fantasy is better than Genshin Impact is that the roadblocks to progressing in the story are or at least feel easier to get around.

[Serah]

2/10 Bait

[Karsui]

Just because a company doesn't earn as much as competitors, it doesn't mean it's a failure.
"Failed" games do not generate profit in a first place.
It's not a B2P game, but a F2P service game - meaning if it would generate losses, then further development would be ceased long ago.

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TLDR of what OP said: Game is not like Genshin/WuWa = game is bad.

This statement is further supported by his haterage towards MMO aspect (one of the biggest selling points of ToF), calling it: "completely pointless". Totally not biased.

The rest of his post is a mix of toxic-positivity about the game + some ridiculous rants, like: PC game having 90GB size in 2025... and lags on his unidentified iphone model with, I quote, "pretty good specs".

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While some points could be agreed on (ex. weapon's powercreep), or be at least debatable... the overall post heavily lacks constructive-criticism.
It's being written in more of a hate train jargon manner, where the OP portrays his own views and opinions as actual facts, which is genuinely dishonest.

[Null_User]

If every game out there went for the "most players", all games would be solely combat pvp, as that's what most of the gaming community seems to want to do. But that would make gaming in general such a lame thing, at least for people not into pvp combat like me.

I agree with OP that the game could use more boss battles. But creating those without going into recolors is something not every dev out there is even capable of doing. It requires an extremely talented team of people to make something engaging for years, since that's the amount of time these games are expected to live. So instead we have teams that try to create things other than combat to try and keep their games at least varied.

PvP is yet another point most devs are simply unable to get right, even with enough data pointing at what players truly want from a pvp match. So we keep getting poor pvp in game after game, and players will flock to the games with whatever is close to what they want.

Now, back to this game, I see that the devs are at least making sure people can get and build more SSR weapons, having released some decent ones into the standard banner (like Pine Comet, Onyx Tortoise and Azure Dragon), giving players more than ample ways to farm for nucleus to roll the gacha, and currency to directly buy copies of already obtained weapons. Events have also given players good resources to build the rest of their gear (I have a bunch of unopened boxes with elemental focused gear), though I still lament that getting some things, like suppressor upgrades, are trickled down unless you join a crew.

Character visual customization is also pretty good, with a good selection of outfits, settings and accessories for your main character, and the ability to become any character you have unlocked while using any weapon you have on them, which is something I haven't seen anywhere else yet.

So all in all, this game may have some things that need work, but isn't so bad to come back to once in awhile, and even supporting the dev by buying a cosmetic or two.

[Erain]

Hambuger

[SteelAceBae]

I was gonna play the game, but I had to update but not enough space......so much space needed. Had 150 space free and still could not update it, was not worth to go on also when playing the game i needed certain weapon to do stuff and those weapon comes from rng system. And now I have no account because of this transfer to another publisher. I had a good time but It wasn't meant to be, not everything is for me.

[ZeroPantz™]

Originally posted by SteelAceBae:

I was gonna play the game, but I had to update but not enough space......so much space needed. Had 150 space free and still could not update it, was not worth to go on also when playing the game i needed certain weapon to do stuff and those weapon comes from rng system. And now I have no account because of this transfer to another publisher. I had a good time but It wasn't meant to be, not everything is for me.

Um yeah you still have an account. You can still transfer until April 24th. Still, if it ain't for you that's totally cool of course. But just don't say stuff that ain't true. You don't need to justify not playing this game.