Tower of Fantasy

Tower of Fantasy

.phos. Dec 4, 2022 @ 2:27pm
sponge and a sponges then some sponges.
OK I am getting a little irritated, and need to vent a little.

No matter how much I upgrade my weapons, gear, matrices, suppressor, all enemies feel like sponges. They take forever to kill, and yes I know to use the right damage type for certain resistances. I really don't get what I am missing, The only thing I can think of is my gear dose not have the best factors. It really feels like even the single player content is scaled for 2 or 3 players. Example, I just got to the artificial island. there is a yellow rift, I click on it and it gives a 45S time limit and spawns about 5 basic enemies and 4 elites with bubble shields. even after weapon bursting on them with my highest shatter weapon then bursting with my highest damage weapon and using missile relic which is my highest damage relic. They were only down about half shields and 2 of the basic enemies were down:runecrying:. I get that as a non whale I am going to be weak, but this feels wrong.

Also ruin levels don't make since on hard, as the level vs CS requirement can't be achieved unless you have maxed out gold gear at that level.

On a side note. story content feels to easy:runeshock::Yonah:

Low spender here(like $25, if I am still playing in a month i will drop another $25)
Alright rant over, feel free to ignore.
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because, for example for bygone phantasm, is kind of endless made on purpose for super ultra whales who actually bought everything you can imagine, but they still want some difficulty even with all the gears.
this game's endgame is harder than genshin for that reason, to give endgame whales a true challenge.
MDuh Dec 4, 2022 @ 5:43pm 
CS Recommendation is bollocks. I think the highest and last lvl of wormhole suggests 100k+ CS which is impossible but I and other ppl did finish it.

The yellow portal in artificial island can be soloed, but it is not single player content.

You're not really telling us what ur CS is, team comp, matrix combinations to help u optimize.
icepurple Dec 4, 2022 @ 5:49pm 
Originally posted by fondy14:
OK I am getting a little irritated, and need to vent a little.

Example, I just got to the artificial island. there is a yellow rift, I click on it and it gives a 45S time limit and spawns about 5 basic enemies and 4 elites with bubble shields. even after weapon bursting on them with my highest shatter weapon then bursting with my highest damage weapon and using missile relic which is my highest damage relic. They were only down about half shields and 2 of the basic enemies were down:runecrying:. I get that as a non whale I am going to be weak, but this feels wrong.

Gold gates in IA are meant for co-op, and you should call for crew mates with those. Depending on your cs (dps actually, CS is not that relevant in some cases) purple gates should be doable in solo.

Confound Abyss lvl 80 has the same mechanics btw. Blue cube solo, gold cube co-op.
.phos. Dec 4, 2022 @ 7:59pm 
Originally posted by icepurple:
Originally posted by fondy14:
OK I am getting a little irritated, and need to vent a little.

Example, I just got to the artificial island. there is a yellow rift, I click on it and it gives a 45S time limit and spawns about 5 basic enemies and 4 elites with bubble shields. even after weapon bursting on them with my highest shatter weapon then bursting with my highest damage weapon and using missile relic which is my highest damage relic. They were only down about half shields and 2 of the basic enemies were down:runecrying:. I get that as a non whale I am going to be weak, but this feels wrong.

Gold gates in IA are meant for co-op, and you should call for crew mates with those. Depending on your cs (dps actually, CS is not that relevant in some cases) purple gates should be doable in solo.

Confound Abyss lvl 80 has the same mechanics btw. Blue cube solo, gold cube co-op.

Thanks that helps knowing that there are certain ones that are meant for groups.

As for optimizing my build this was more a rant than anything, I think I got it sorta figured out with what I have. But I will post some screen shots of my build.

over all stats right now. https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2897747251

my currant team.
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2897747263

gear.
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2897747304

weapons and matrix.
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2897747299
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2897747292
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2897747282
Last edited by .phos.; Dec 4, 2022 @ 8:02pm
Mika gunhild Dec 4, 2022 @ 8:32pm 
what the hell with your team comp, why are you still using purple weapon?

also when its released artificial island 60s suppose to be team fight, either you continue leveling or ask for help in the global chat

and do yourself a favor build a focused elemental team, i suggest volt or frost
Somnum Dec 4, 2022 @ 9:46pm 
Originally posted by fondy14:
Originally posted by icepurple:

Gold gates in IA are meant for co-op, and you should call for crew mates with those. Depending on your cs (dps actually, CS is not that relevant in some cases) purple gates should be doable in solo.

Confound Abyss lvl 80 has the same mechanics btw. Blue cube solo, gold cube co-op.

Thanks that helps knowing that there are certain ones that are meant for groups.

As for optimizing my build this was more a rant than anything, I think I got it sorta figured out with what I have. But I will post some screen shots of my build.

over all stats right now. https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2897747251

my currant team.
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2897747263

gear.
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2897747304

weapons and matrix.
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2897747299
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2897747292
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2897747282

My advice:
You should try to ask some people to carry you in few join ops and frontier clash. Doesn't even need to be the harder to be honest. But looking at the gear you have, you need at least some purple one for now. Even a high level f2p can probably face roll Frontier clash on easy and get you a few purples. Or if you get some more op people, they probably can carry you in the first 2 or 3 bosses of the hard mode of FC.

Also just as Mikakunin said: you should try to change that purple weapon for another gold one, ideally from the same element that one of your other main gold weapons. Purple weapons on this game are ok just when you are starting, but they are a waste of resources to level at late game, specially if you are f2p or low spender since resources are more limited than for a whale.

Good thing is that you have Lin, so you can pair that weapon with two others that are same alement and get a good effect even if Lin weapon itself is not from that same element. So as example: Lin weapon + your Ice bow + another Ice weapon you get the effect.. Or Lin + 2 fire weapons, etc.

Not really sure if you have more gold weapons than what you show in that screenshot, so can really tell you what specific ones to level up.

Other thing is: not really sure how much have you explored the world map, but there are ton of those gold nucleus in all the maps of the game, so even with no real money you can still get a few gold weapons if you just explore and collect most of those.
MDuh Dec 4, 2022 @ 10:17pm 
ok, now it's clear why u are struggling. at lvl 50, you should have gold armor pieces already.

Don't worry, you got hit by the perpetual x5 xp (it stops at max lvl -2) on the game that's why u are accelerated so much ur gear doesn't match.

There should be free purple and gold armor in ruins. I also believe you get free gold dust when doing ruins. Do all those that you can do and get the armor pieces. Use gold dust on commissary >> Crystal dust store and buy the gold armor pieces.

lvl 50 or jops6 is the recommended time to start dong it, but at your CS lvl, you will be incredibly underpowered.

It's time to look for active crews to help you out.

For your comp, idk why you are still using the 4* volt spear.

I see you have a king/shiro. If you have a meryl that's even better. Replace the 4* volt spear so you can trigger frost resonance on Lin's weapon. If you don't have her, shiro is the one I suggest replacing the 4* volt spear cause her skill has the vacuum CC effect.
Rabid Dec 4, 2022 @ 11:12pm 
I hate this modern game mechanic of everything levels up with you. Pretty much makes levelling up pointless, and even when the 'enemy' is the same level they still feel tougher than you are.

When I was younger if you were level 1 in a game and encountered a level 10 enemy that would smite you, if you came back at level 20 that enemy would be still be level 10 and now you'd be the smiter.

Games like Tower of Fantasy and Genshin Impact though, fighting an enemy when your level 1 feels the same when you come to fight them at level 80.

Pisses me off. And you know it's by design to make people grind like ♥♥♥♥ to stop any kind of 'end game' and encourages people to become whales.
Imagine the time gated levels in the early days actually helped us and made it easier for us to level weapons. Also had more time for gold gear too. Not to mention the thousands of vit we've used over them. No wonder we got people thinking we should have full gold gear at level 50.

The best way to do it yourself will be doing all the normal ruins, they give 300 dust each and do as many hard as you can as well. Next thing would be asking for carries but that seems to be a hit or miss here. Also your level cap is 67, really depends on how many whales you even have there.

There is also artificial island but you would need a carry and also spawns are dependant on population feels like.

Joint opts or frontier clash are the main sources of direct gear but once again for the higher things you will need a carry....

And always have exploring as a weapon gain.

All the frost stuff I would recommend as well, SR weapons just aren't worth unless you plan to tank, Only issue is Frigg/Saki or another frost might not be coming for a while. So really your decision on that.

I would personally use Shiro over your SR but not invest crazy into it till you knew the element you were going. Shes just a safer better shatter then the spear. Be very careful with how you spend on levelling weapons though, you can get the mats easy but its gated by Vitality.

Be better to see all your weapons to give info on this. Meryl would be a good choice for the frost build if you have them.
Last edited by Business Intelligence; Dec 5, 2022 @ 12:06am
icepurple Dec 5, 2022 @ 12:45am 
Originally posted by fondy14:
Originally posted by icepurple:

Gold gates in IA are meant for co-op, and you should call for crew mates with those. Depending on your cs (dps actually, CS is not that relevant in some cases) purple gates should be doable in solo.

Confound Abyss lvl 80 has the same mechanics btw. Blue cube solo, gold cube co-op.

Thanks that helps knowing that there are certain ones that are meant for groups.

As for optimizing my build this was more a rant than anything, I think I got it sorta figured out with what I have. But I will post some screen shots of my build.

over all stats right now. https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2897747251

my currant team.
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2897747263

gear.
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2897747304

weapons and matrix.
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2897747299
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2897747292
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2897747282

Yeah, no wonder you struggling. Not really your fault, we have XP multiplier of a 50x PvP Server, and Economy Multiplier of a 1x PvE server LOL. These dudes at Hotta have noi idea how to make a RPG, even the less an MMO. The progression in this game is just bad, and you will have to adjust yourself to it.

Anyways, more or less, previous comments should have given you enough of explanation.

Try to follow this mirror to fix your game

1) Pick an element meta team: Frost, Flame, Physical, Volt. Since you have Lin, chose 2 weapon of the same element, plus Lin as team. Possibly SSR weapons, stars don't matter much at your stage.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JM19FfMEU-c&t=442s

2) Satisfied the above. I assume you are lvl 60, spend at least 120 Vitality, daily, in Join OP 6-7, and make sure to have enough Joint Chips stacked up for each chest.

3) Once you got 8 pieces of gold gears, pause JO and get the 3 weapons of your main team to the right level. Try to catch 3s gates, or do Dimensional trial. Essentially all vitality spent in there untill your weapons are all at the same lvl cap. Then you can restart with JO, and try some harder content as bygone and FCH later on.


And if you really like the game, and want to keep going, look for some tutorial on YT.
GL HF.
Last edited by icepurple; Dec 5, 2022 @ 1:04am
.phos. Dec 5, 2022 @ 4:37pm 
Thank you all for the advice. I kinda figured I was missing something, but now I know I'am just dumb:eoetired:

Just one more question about weapons. So last night I got meryl:er_heart: and I liked her weapon play and feel, so I upgraded her to the same level as the eco spear. Stat wise my spear should be a higher damage weapon at a6 vs a0, but playing that definitely was not the case. I know the srr are the best weapon you can get but I was looking at the sats of my weapon and that why I kept the spear so long. So are the displayed stats in this game just worthless? and I should always go with the highest rank weapon I got?

A6 eco with no matrices
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2898093577

A0 meryl with no matrices
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2898093563

The only other SRR i have are king and Shiro, But I am to deep in to a frost build and don't want to give up my bow as i really like it even though it probably not the best. all srr are A0.



Originally posted by MDuh:
ok, now it's clear why u are struggling. at lvl 50, you should have gold armor pieces already.

Don't worry, you got hit by the perpetual x5 xp (it stops at max lvl -2) on the game that's why u are accelerated so much ur gear doesn't match.

There should be free purple and gold armor in ruins. I also believe you get free gold dust when doing ruins. Do all those that you can do and get the armor pieces. Use gold dust on commissary >> Crystal dust store and buy the gold armor pieces.

lvl 50 or jops6 is the recommended time to start dong it, but at your CS lvl, you will be incredibly underpowered.

It's time to look for active crews to help you out.
Yep, this is like the third game where i came in a little late and they gave new player rabid XP boost to catch up. My problem with it is every time(example a here) is I feel like it rushes my past things that i don't have time to fully learn. But that more on me not taking the time to slow down and focus the game mechanics.





Originally posted by Rieihdius:
Other thing is: not really sure how much have you explored the world map, but there are ton of those gold nucleus in all the maps of the game, so even with no real money you can still get a few gold weapons if you just explore and collect most of those.
I have the first three maps 100%, but in my foolishness, I wasted resources on low tier stuff.but with help I am learning, and have 3 more maps to finis and have not even touched Vara content yet, so I think I will be able to improve. Honestly the vast majority of my game time, is just exploring after finishing the area story.

Thanks again for all the help:er_heart::steamthumbsup::Yonah:
Last edited by .phos.; Dec 5, 2022 @ 4:38pm
MDuh Dec 5, 2022 @ 5:24pm 
Originally posted by fondy14:
Thank you all for the advice. I kinda figured I was missing something, but now I know I'am just dumb:eoetired:

Just one more question about weapons. So last night I got meryl:er_heart: and I liked her weapon play and feel, so I upgraded her to the same level as the eco spear. Stat wise my spear should be a higher damage weapon at a6 vs a0, but playing that definitely was not the case. I know the srr are the best weapon you can get but I was looking at the sats of my weapon and that why I kept the spear so long. So are the displayed stats in this game just worthless? and I should always go with the highest rank weapon I got?

A6 eco with no matrices
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2898093577

A0 meryl with no matrices
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2898093563

The only other SRR i have are king and Shiro, But I am to deep in to a frost build and don't want to give up my bow as i really like it even though it probably not the best. all srr are A0.



It's because you are comparing an a6 volt spear vs an a0 meryl. I'm not 100% sure but I think a2 or a3 is the point where the CS for ssrs starts beating srs.

For the atk/res stats. You are comparing a DPS class weapon vs a tank class weapon.

But regardless of that, since u got yourself a meryl, immediately replace volt spear with that and you will get Lin's frost resonance and also a pretty great shieldbreaker. Lin's stat is misleading in that even though she has a high shatter value, it's just a multiplier and meryl's shatter has a higher base to shatter (hidden stat)
icepurple Dec 5, 2022 @ 6:04pm 
If you just got Meryl, and already have Tsubasa, you are pretty much Frost Team, combine with Lin (dps resonance). If you have some Black ore accumulated by spending gold nucleus I'd advance Meryl 1star for self heal, and 1s Tsubasa for 15% atk buff, and you very well set.

If you decide to commit with Frost, save all red summons and dark crystals for next Frost banners such as Alyss, or next rerun Frigg or Saki.

One reason for why you don't want to level up too high SR weapons is because it will eventually be replaced by SSR. Since we have limited STAMINA x day (180 cap), you need to optimize for efficiency. Unless you decide to buy monthly premium stuff, and buy stamina pots from the p2w shop. In any case, at leas 1x stamina potion purchase a day is recommended.
Last edited by icepurple; Dec 5, 2022 @ 6:12pm
Mika gunhild Dec 5, 2022 @ 8:55pm 
stat arent that important as long they all in the same level, what you want is damage multiplier

equiping 2 same element weapon already boost your base stat, not to mention some weapon buff that only works with the same element,meryl is good for now but you need to change it later

also make sure you choose the right trait, it can change your dps
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