Anti Cheat causes BSOD (DPC_WATCHDOG_VIOLATION)

[ericg86]

to the dev fix it please the game cause blue screen of death and windows restart it always happend after closing the game after a few second or mins the anti cheat software is causing the blues screen

[Kaitsu]

Originally posted by ericg86:

i install windows 11 22h2 look like its fix the problem

I have just now tested this. It definitely just fixed my BSOD since f­ucking launch. I'm still going to keep Throttle Stop in case Hotta tweaks their anti-cheat to do some stupid sh­it again for the 22H2 update.

At the moment, if you are able to get the 22H2 update, I'd recommend getting it. It seems to fix it entirely.

[Keykoh]

Originally posted by Xnaker Eyes:

Originally posted by Keykoh:

tried that and still getting bluescreen 5 seconds after launching. can't even get to a single menu or character creation. their support site claims it's a windows compatibility issue and to try asking microsoft about it... from what i've been reading though, seems like it happens on every version of windows, and i've never in my life had an anticheat do anything like this to me either... prior to this i could count on one hand the number of times this PC blue screened since built. it's more than doubled today trying to figure this out.

like i said:

Originally posted by Xnaker Eyes:

that's how the anticheat driver works, try to run the game without other apps in the background...

I did try that. I tried disabling the realtek high definition audio in device manager (which fixed it for one guy in the forums reportedly, didn't work for me though) I ran nothing but steam and ToF. i even shut down mouse and keyboard software AND my antivirus protection. end result is the same. from what i've been reading this is a known issue with their anticheat.

Some people say that on windows 10 and 11 there's an update (22h2) that seems to fix the issue, but not everyone has 10/11. store page says it supports win 7 as the minimum OS, which I currently have myself. I would like to get 10 but microsoft announced end of support for that as well within 3 years, but despite that still charging well over $100 for a licence key, so doesn't feel worth getting unless they seriously slash the price on a key since i'm on a tight budget to begin with. can't get 11 because my CPU isn't new enough to be compatible. 11 has a CPU feature requirement that didn't exist on CPUs when my system was built.

point is tho their anticheat is causing BSOD on systems that don't have anything even remotely cheat related installed (let alone even running) on them and that is a problem that needs to be addressed. The added irony is, from what I've been hearing anyways, cheating has been somewhat rampant and not all that difficult either despite this root level anticheat. While this one should be fixed, at the same time I can't help but feel they'd still be better off looking into adopting a more effective and less busted anticheat system.

[Keykoh]

Originally posted by Kaitsu:

Originally posted by Ave:

i am sorry but they can't fix your system for you.

watchdog violation blue screen can mean multiple things:

- corrupted system files
- problems with your SSD like driver problems or errors
- driver problems with external hardware

do keep in mind that you are pretty much the only one having this problem.

Incorrect. This has been happening for ages since launch. You can search reddit, you can even search this steam discussion forum. It's present everywhere.

The fix to this is using Throttle Stop and turning on Speed Shift and setting the EPP to 0. It 100% has nothing to do with our PCs. If I can fix it using an external program, it is the anti-cheat. People have already deduced this, stop making up sh­it and defending this company's incompetence. There's also a DX12 issue in the Steam version where the Standalone has no issue with, because I believe Standalone doesn't use it. It's a mess.

I've actually talked with staff about this, and unfortunately even though I've found the fix for it. They refuse to change the anti-cheat, because they can't make it work around compatibility, so we just have to bite it and find our own fixes. Or endure the BSOD.

What's happening is that the game forces the CPU to literally go into overdrive, which is normal, but it doesn't turn it off upon exiting from the game. So when you go to turn off your PC or restart, the sh­it goes haywire and BSODs, because it's still "running" an application in the BG, aka the literal kernel level a­ss ksophon_x64.sys file.

All BSOD logs says that ksophon_x64.sys is the issue. So go ahead and tell me I'm wrong.

ah, you're the review author i've mentioned elsewhere regarding the issue and workaround... didn't really understand it myself, never heard of the thing, the rest I imagine is just setting features inside of it. Either way, do you know if it also fixes the BSOD on launch and not just the one on shutdown/post shutdown? my issue is i BSOD within 5 seconds of launching, while on the infinity logo bit.

I'm on win 7 myself so the 22H2 update for win 10/11 won't fix anything for myself in the meantime, and I can't justify spending well over $100 on a windows 10 key when they've announced end of support already in 3 years for it to try and force 11 onto people... which sucks because 11 has a hardware requirement that most people don't meet unless they're using a pretty much brand new system to begin with. (one of the requirements has to do with the CPU and a feature that didn't exist on them until about a couple years ago apparently, and my system is older than that.)

if they cut licence key price for 10 by a serious amount considering the expiration date they've slapped on it I'll see about getting it, but in the meantime... *sigh*

[Keykoh]

oh, and before i get flamed for still using windows 7, aside from what I've already said in my post above regarding my situation, I would also like to point out that steam store page lists win 7 as the minimum operating system.... which means it should be supported and actually work fine regardless... So until it actually works I'm basically obligated to report it to steam for being broken and unable to launch... maybe(hopefully) valve puts some pressure on them to actually address the issue as a result.

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Try this https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2878889258

[Ave]

Originally posted by Xnaker Eyes:

bumping

for what? was it really needed to bump this for nothing?

[Tsula Kurotsuchi]

I JUST installed battleye for the first time and immediately got a BSOD trying to launch a game with it. It's a game I have been playing fine offline. I always said no to the request to install the software. I've never seen this watchdog error before either.

Clearly something is wrong with Battleye. I'm removing it asap and never putting that garbage on any of my computers ever again. I'd rather play offline indefinitely.

[Xnaker Eyes ⭐⭐⭐]

Originally posted by ericg86:

to the dev fix it please the game cause blue screen of death and windows restart it always happend after closing the game after a few second or mins the anti cheat software is causing the blues screen

about the bsod problem, make sure to have installed latest win 10/11 22h2 update, usually that fixes the problem!

[Rayshen]

Anti-Cheat is a rootkit just like your security software.
most cased ur bluescreen is caused by a conflict or hardware and software.
Software is on the kernel level. i only have the tof anticheat bluescreen my pc when i loaded another game next to it that also uses its own sys anticheat.
just sharing my experience with the game.

[JAIJACALO]

Can anyone confirm that got no Bsod after the latest Windows patch?.
Wanting to play the game.
Controller support any better?
Thank you

[MDuh]

Originally posted by JAIJACALO:

Can anyone confirm that got no Bsod after the latest Windows patch?.
Wanting to play the game.
Controller support any better?
Thank you

Rampant BSOD stopped after the first month of release (standalone release not steam). There was also a windows update at that time so it could be that.

Controller support still sucks. CN version is getting better support though so maybe 2 months more at minimum before global gets it.

[JAIJACALO]

Thank you Ill give a try nice update comes 22/12/2022

[Xnaker Eyes ⭐⭐⭐]

Originally posted by JAIJACALO:

Can anyone confirm that got no Bsod after the latest Windows patch?.
Wanting to play the game.
Controller support any better?
Thank you

yes, there are several threads that confirms that bsod was fixed in the latest win 10/11 22h2 update (i can link all of them if you still need it).
with respect to the controller, it will not be improved.
yw.

[JAIJACALO]

I can confirm that I downloaded this version linked with Google account. After Windows update last month. Not a single BSOD anymore. But still no controller support( full)