Age of Wonders 3 or Warlock 2--or BOTH?

[Deathboy68]

I used to love the old hex turned based games on my old consoles but have never played any of the new ones. I think both Age of Wonders 3 and Warlock 2 look fantastic. The difference being--Age of Wonders 3 allows you to zoom in and manually fight, while Warlock 2 shows small animation of one hex beating on the other. I'm attracted to the crazy monsters and spells in Warlock 3 and am leaning towards purchasing that game. Any suggestions as to what may make for a better play experience for someone new just coming back to the genre?

[Frozen Esper]

@wyrtt
Even in single player the battles can drag on and on. Not saying it's bad, it is more of preference. Some like the long tactical battles others like the shorter.

[Wyrtt]

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@wyrtt
Even in single player the battles can drag on and on. Not saying it's bad, it is more of preference. Some like the long tactical battles others like the shorter.

auto battles saves your day. If person buy game like this than it ready for long sessions.

[asadex]

they are totally different games, i will buy both

[Grubnick]

I will be buying both. Love the genre of turn based stategic fantasy.

[Frozen Esper]

Ahh! You right, I completely forgot about the auto battle option. Well, I am hoping AOW III will be good. I bought WII first and am enjoying it. I'm just going to see how the first reviews come in. Here is one from Gamespot which kind of reflects on one the reasons I hesitated (Units). Read the section where it says the bad and the good at the bottom of the review.

http://www.gamespot.com/reviews/age-of-wonders-iii-review/1900-6415714/

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Maximus eredeti hozzászólása:

@wyrtt
Even in single player the battles can drag on and on. Not saying it's bad, it is more of preference. Some like the long tactical battles others like the shorter.

auto battles saves your day. If person buy game like this than it ready for long sessions.

[Herc'kron]

I think both but I think you need to decide what you like best. I see warlocks2 as a single unit stack combat base like civ5, but Ages looks like a multi unit stacked game like Fallen enchantress per say. Both look good and have plenty to do. At the moment the cost is like 10 dollars differance, the lower cost going to Warlock2. There are plenty of lets play for both, Although i believe there is a more detailed look into warlocks simple becuase Ages hasen't released yet, but come Monday I'm sure you will see tons of stuff coming out for Ages. Hope it helps. I plan to get both of these games myself. Big time civ5 fan here, but for all its fualts i love fallen enchatress to. So I think ages will in the long run, win the battle of which is best for me. Civ type games tend to be long and drawn out less you handicap yourself to the extreme lol

[Smash]

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Warlock has werewolves with hat iirc...
Buying 4X TBS for Internet multiplayer miss the point imo. Games are too long anyway to finish them with some random guy.
AoW III combat has more depth. You miss that for some reason.
AoW III has more stable game code so i would not sure with "definitely go for Warlock II"...

Better to buy AoW III and see how WII develop.

How many times i must repeat that you dont play tbs with random people. You play them with friends or "friends". Time is not a problem as you can save and load.
Actualy playing with random people any game is perverse(except fps and racing)

You do not need to repeat and before posting you should check whole dialog.
Because when you play with friends separate combat is not a problem. Slower or not.


Another thing worth mention is that if you have W1 then maybe W2 is not worth to buy now as game feel more like expansion than sequel.

[HarryBuddhaPalm]

wyrtt eredeti hozzászólása:

Smash eredeti hozzászólása:

Warlock has werewolves with hat iirc...
Buying 4X TBS for Internet multiplayer miss the point imo. Games are too long anyway to finish them with some random guy.
AoW III combat has more depth. You miss that for some reason.
AoW III has more stable game code so i would not sure with "definitely go for Warlock II"...

Better to buy AoW III and see how WII develop.

How many times i must repeat that you dont play tbs with random people. You play them with friends or "friends". Time is not a problem as you can save and load.
Actualy playing with random people any game is perverse(except fps and racing)

Who are you to tell people how to play their games?

[InsideOut]

The release of AoW3 brought high expectations... and didn't fill them all if you want to believe people's reaction on different fora. I only played it for a limited time but I *can* say that I don't like the damage scaling in combat (squads that are significantly hurt still do full damage). Still, good game. It's very early to say for sure, but I get the impression AoW3 isn't going to be the "end all TBS game of 2014" that was led us to believe.

As for Warlock 2: it made a solid first impression. Feels and plays like Warlock 1, but with added features. I really like the quick gameflow of this series. Still, not sure about the limitation on the amount of cities you can grab, before corruption sets in. Five cities seems like a very low limit, even on a small map. What happens when you get past that treshold, how steep is the price? Besides that, great game.

[VDmitry]

For now I'm shocked with AoW3. Not sure will manage to play it.

[InsideOut]

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For now I'm shocked with AoW3. Not sure will manage to play it.

Care to elaborate? Curious about other AoW3 opinions.

[Nina Williams]

Warlock 2 better in all.

[VDmitry]

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For now I'm shocked with AoW3. Not sure will manage to play it.

Care to elaborate? Curious about other AoW3 opinions.

That was a feeling after first look. The game started for me with very poor performance and awful russian translation. To add I was puzzled on how to change any settings - the game asked for restart and after that I found nothing actually changed. Finally I found the way to set video settings and game language before starting it (and still have to do that a new every time I'm starting the game).

Then I was reading a quite beautyful story which was interrupted by game flow with sentences like "Now you die! And die badly!" That was so contradicting with the story... Then went combat were I found very strange approach where units had multiply men but combat strength was not affected by casualties.

After so straitforward Warlock I now have to understand many more strange concepts like Damage = 10 + (Attack - Defence). And so on. I understand that this is very different game, but that is my feeling atm.

[CB]

Both because I really don't understand why they keep getting compared. Turn-based strategy fantasy with hexes... but with different approches to combat, progression and interferance... basically the supports of general gameplay.

If I had to point at either it is down to which you prefer in regards to the army raising and direct combat aspect.

Maximus eredeti hozzászólása:

Ahh! You right, I completely forgot about the auto battle option. Well, I am hoping AOW III will be good. I bought WII first and am enjoying it. I'm just going to see how the first reviews come in. Here is one from Gamespot which kind of reflects on one the reasons I hesitated (Units). Read the section where it says the bad and the good at the bottom of the review.

http://www.gamespot.com/reviews/age-of-wonders-iii-review/1900-6415714/

wyrtt eredeti hozzászólása:

auto battles saves your day. If person buy game like this than it ready for long sessions.

I would read other reviews actually. After watching the lets plays, other reviewers, own expereiences and feedback, the GameSpot review is somewhat off on that aspect IE not fanboy rage due to the score.

[Frozen Esper]

I bought AOW III too, just had to :). I would also "NOW" recommend getting both. I still feel AOW III units are... not as good as they could be, but the game is just as fun as WII. They are played differntly but getting both is a great way to spend your time! The AI in AOW III is great and very challenging.