The mid-game is pure s*** - wish I could refund

[Boner Storm]

I just did two runs on the Moon and didn't huff a carton of cigarettes to keep q-morphosis at Somnia the entire time... twice Percy got one-shotted by a servant with a crossbow as their literal first move after losing invulnerability.

For those who are considering buying this game: the crossbow deals 144 damage on a crit and crits.... 100% PERCENT OF THE TIME. The highest you can reasonably get your health - even with boosts from eating freaky alien organs, is about 90. This is a one-shot weapon and there's no armor/ability that can stop it and there is no possible way to consistently avoid it. The devs are aware that one-shotting is a serious issue for players in the mid/late-game and literally do not care.

The only way I could have avoided this is sprinting behind a wall and trying to snipe the mofo on the first of a double-move. I guess I'll do that next time. The last two crossbow-wielders I managed to kill by spamming flashbangs and fire grenades. But I was out by the third.

100% critical with 144 crit damage is completely ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ and there's no defending it. It's a guaranteed kill on anything short of a baron, let alone a player.

*pause*

I played one more run and tried to do the wall trick - IT HAPPENED AGAIN. THREE TIMES TOTAL. This time the SOB got a FREE ATTACK mid-turn because I had the temerity to go through a door.

[Crusty_Cheese25]

Krill Issue

[𝕮𝖔𝖗𝖛𝖚𝖘]

Xbow > gun, ok got it! Good game balance. ;D

[sajeedborg]

I LOVE THE CROSSBOW AND I SWEAR TO GOD IF YOU MEASLY UNSKILLED TURBO-♥♥♥♥♥ GET IT NERFED I WILL ACTUALLY FIND YOU

[Boner Storm]

Originally posted by jacebenzing:

Krill Issue

OK galaxy brain. Tell the class how you do the thing.

If it's something stupid like running a dodge build and hopey-praying, then you can go suck eggs. RNG is not skill.

[Boner Storm]

Originally posted by The Pisswizard:

I LOVE THE CROSSBOW AND I SWEAR TO GOD IF YOU MEASLY UNSKILLED TURBO-♥♥♥♥♥ GET IT NERFED I WILL ACTUALLY FIND YOU

Yeah f*** this game I deleted it. I couldn't care less about your favorite wunderwaffen.

"Oh wow I'm the best gamer ever I got the poorly-designed OP thing wooo!"

I have practically no interest in improving the game at this point. I just want to warn normal, decent people to not buy it.

[Boner Storm]

To that end, I deeply implore from the bottom of my heart all you bootlicking fanbois to keep responding to this post with "skill issue" so it is continuously bumped for maximum exposure to potential buyers.

[sajeedborg]

Originally posted by Boner Storm:

To that end, I deeply implore from the bottom of my heart all you bootlicking fanbois to keep responding to this post with "skill issue" so it is continuously bumped for maximum exposure to potential buyers.

honestly it just makes you come off as more unhinged but you do you I guess

[Boner Storm]

Originally posted by The Pisswizard:

Originally posted by Boner Storm:

To that end, I deeply implore from the bottom of my heart all you bootlicking fanbois to keep responding to this post with "skill issue" so it is continuously bumped for maximum exposure to potential buyers.

honestly it just makes you come off as more unhinged but you do you I guess

Nah you people can't help yourselves. The worse the game, the more unhinged the fanbois are when you criticize it. Months from now I'll still be getting brain-dead replies and savoring them immensely. They won't even read the first page of comments to see I said this.

[sajeedborg]

Originally posted by Boner Storm:

Originally posted by The Pisswizard:

honestly it just makes you come off as more unhinged but you do you I guess

Nah you people can't help yourselves. The worse the game, the more unhinged the fanbois are when you criticize it. Months from now I'll still be getting brain-dead replies and savoring them immensely. They won't even read the first page of comments to see I said this.

honest to god I almost don't want to give you a proper response to that if the game isn't your cup of tea then that is absolutely fine, however it is no way indicative of the quality of said game.

Most of the issues raised in your original post seemed to arise from a lack of understanding of the games mechanics in relation to the movement and turn system; to me and others these mechanics become obvious via play but perhaps the tutorial could've explained it better.

YES ending your turn while running is a very bad idea especially if the enemy had line of sight and even more so if your Q-morph stage was high as it increases the alert level for all NPCs ending your turn this way grants the enemy *initiative* as using two AP points while engaged or in the line of sight of an already alerted enemy grants them a turn with half of their normal AP points in which they can shoot or move or exit invulnerability in the case of Quasimorphs.

This why you got one shot.

Its a fault partly the games poor explanation of mechanics but also (and more importantly)
your failure to understand cause and effect in essence skill issue.

[Boner Storm]

Originally posted by The Pisswizard:

Originally posted by Boner Storm:

Nah you people can't help yourselves. The worse the game, the more unhinged the fanbois are when you criticize it. Months from now I'll still be getting brain-dead replies and savoring them immensely. They won't even read the first page of comments to see I said this.

honest to god I almost don't want to give you a proper response to that if the game isn't your cup of tea then that is absolutely fine, however it is no way indicative of the quality of said game.

Most of the issues raised in your original post seemed to arise from a lack of understanding of the games mechanics in relation to the movement and turn system; to me and others these mechanics become obvious via play but perhaps the tutorial could've explained it better.

YES ending your turn while running is a very bad idea especially if the enemy had line of sight and even more so if your Q-morph stage was high as it increases the alert level for all NPCs ending your turn this way grants the enemy *initiative* as using two AP points while engaged or in the line of sight of an already alerted enemy grants them a turn with half of their normal AP points in which they can shoot or move or exit invulnerability in the case of Quasimorphs.

This why you got one shot.

Its a fault partly the games poor explanation of mechanics but also (and more importantly)
your failure to understand cause and effect in essence skill issue.

WRONG

I was walking, not running. I've been looking through forum posts and you people always assume crap about players complaining that isn't true. Guess I can be glad that you didn't accuse me of sneaking everywhere.

I've also gotten one-shot while walking through a doorway. As in I'm walking, use one move to get in the doorway, then get one-shot during my turn before I can use my second move to back out.

There are posts describing it as a bug back in early dec and people saying devs were going to fix it. Were they right or you?

"muh superior knowledge of game mechanics"

[Boner Storm]

Originally posted by The Pisswizard:

SNIP

Also you're literally the same guy who just told me that Quasimorphs never attack in their first turn with no invulnerability.

[Boner Storm]

This reminds me of the Stalker forums where people would insist they had an inspired knowledge of the arcane slavjank code behind that game - "knowledge" that was proven wrong by minimal testing - and even built entire immersive mods based on their misunderstanding of the game mechanics.

[sajeedborg]

Originally posted by Boner Storm:

Originally posted by The Pisswizard:

honest to god I almost don't want to give you a proper response to that if the game isn't your cup of tea then that is absolutely fine, however it is no way indicative of the quality of said game.

Most of the issues raised in your original post seemed to arise from a lack of understanding of the games mechanics in relation to the movement and turn system; to me and others these mechanics become obvious via play but perhaps the tutorial could've explained it better.

YES ending your turn while running is a very bad idea especially if the enemy had line of sight and even more so if your Q-morph stage was high as it increases the alert level for all NPCs ending your turn this way grants the enemy *initiative* as using two AP points while engaged or in the line of sight of an already alerted enemy grants them a turn with half of their normal AP points in which they can shoot or move or exit invulnerability in the case of Quasimorphs.

This why you got one shot.

Its a fault partly the games poor explanation of mechanics but also (and more importantly)
your failure to understand cause and effect in essence skill issue.

WRONG

I was walking, not running. I've been looking through forum posts and you people always assume crap about players complaining that isn't true. Guess I can be glad that you didn't accuse me of sneaking everywhere.

I've also gotten one-shot while walking through a doorway. As in I'm walking, use one move to get in the doorway, then get one-shot during my turn before I can use my second move to back out.

There are posts describing it as a bug back in early dec and people saying devs were going to fix it. Were they right or you?

"muh superior knowledge of game mechanics"

"The only way I could have avoided this is sprinting behind a wall"

"by a servant with a crossbow as their literal first move after losing invulnerability"

please stop being bad faith if your post includes terms like sprinting and the end of turn I am going to assume thats what you did.

As to your second point I've never had that occur in my 100+ hours of playing so I'm going to assume its a rare bug and chalk it up to that

I honestly dont even want to engage with you any further you seem very unhinged and angry so I hope venting for whatever reason helped

[Physical Theorist]

As much as I hate the condescension of people that respond to all criticisms with "skill issue" it's really funny when someone gets so angry at single aspect of a game they call it "♥♥♥♥" and then try to convince people not to buy it.

I have survived a crossbow shot from a warped-in moon quasimorph before. I can't tell you how and I don't even remember what armor or character I was using, but it did cause damage. There's no way to prove this without having recorded the run as it happened but it IS possible.

So not necessarily a "skill issue" because surviving what's almost always a one hit kill is 10% putting yourself in the best possible position and 90% luck but you don't need to get so ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ angry over it.

[Physical Theorist]

While I think the crossbow is absurdly powerful (more powerful than space guns or other weapons designed by the same inter-dimensional demons like the serpent's mouth rifle) and should be rebalanced; I feel like it should be done in a way that makes the crossbow much weaker (but still dangerous) and the same niche be filled by a weapon that looks as imposing as it should be.

This is merely an idea as I don't know ♥♥♥♥ about game design but I personally dislike the concept of makeshift or improvised weapons being stronger than they should.