Stupid barter system

[StarC]

Am I playing casino when trading? Why cant I choose myself what to barter? I don't want trade for tons of garbage. It's really annoying.

[Psycohitman]

u have to trade in high value to get the better things from it. dont trade like 500 trade more like 5000

[Rhonox]

Originally posted by Psycohitman:

u have to trade in high value to get the better things from it. dont trade like 500 trade more like 5000

yeah pretty much this. items have a hidden value assigned to them. if you dont trade enough to reach over that hidden value, you have a 0% chance to get that item.

[holus]

That you need 5000 units to even have a chance at something you want only reinforces how bad the system is. It simply makes no sense. It's essentially a loot box.

[Psycohitman]

Originally posted by holus:

That you need 5000 units to even have a chance at something you want only reinforces how bad the system is. It simply makes no sense. It's essentially a loot box.

its kind of okay. u cant trade 100 units of rubber for on laser sniper

[Undead Llama]

Originally posted by Psycohitman:

its kind of okay. u cant trade 100 units of rubber for on laser sniper

Well, ya kinda can. With enough save-scumming.

It is rather silly you cannot buy outright (at markup) the item you actually want from the markets. Keep the loot box rewards for cisson momplete, sure. But RNGesus is fun for only so long.

[Psycohitman]

Originally posted by Dr Jan Itor:

Originally posted by Psycohitman:

its kind of okay. u cant trade 100 units of rubber for on laser sniper

Well, ya kinda can. With enough save-scumming.

It is rather silly you cannot buy outright (at markup) the item you actually want from the markets. Keep the loot box rewards for cisson momplete, sure. But RNGesus is fun for only so long.

there are just 3 items i really want.... backpack, blue chips and a good smg

[pgames-food]

Originally posted by Psycohitman:

there are just 3 items i really want.... backpack, blue chips and a good smg

hi try to get some other chips too - the tunnel rats class is really cool :)

[Kazeck]

I do have to agree, it sucks not being able to actually acquire items, since chips to produce are RNG and trading is also RNG, it feels like I am in a gacha game.

It makes no sense that I cannot trade with currency in an ANCAP system.

Or that the Civil Resistance wouldn't barter materials for materials and/or equipment, let alone hacked production chips to remove licencing protection.

[koolhand]

I just use whats on the lvls rare that i trade most things you trade for can be found , it did get me out of a hole once with getting some more bullets other then that don't use it.i go for the lvls not the gear

[Emile]

Yup, one of many parts of the game which are somehow STILL unclear to the point of dysfunction. People shouldn't have to go to community forums in order to figure out this game's barter system.

[Kazeck]

Originally posted by Emile:

Yup, one of many parts of the game which are somehow STILL unclear to the point of dysfunction. People shouldn't have to go to community forums in order to figure out this game's barter system.

besides that it's just a broken system.

I don't need ten pairs of level 1 pants, or 6,000 nails from the liberation front, all I wanted are the servo backpacks I cannot make myself, or some production chips, with literally 8+ items needed for me to equip my operative properly and do a conquest mission (Mag vest+full armor+2 weapons+drugs and meds+ammo 1+3+2+2 for sorbent+at least bandages+2 units of ammo=8) and the ability to only natively produce 1-3 of those items, it's a huge ask for an RNG gambling system that also has RNG on the items requested.

It makes me scavenge the enemies kit, which is fine but it makes the barter system effectively something you check to see if you won the lottery 'do they take what I have AND have what I want in stock today?' except it's also got the second layer of 'Alright I gave them what they want, now will they actually give what I want, or will I have to reroll the gacha for it?'

It's bad design.

[Chaos]

Yeah, those "barter" points should've let you choose what you from the list without some stupid RNG, since that's not how barter work.

People back then don't just barter 10 eggs for a chance of random ♥♥♥♥, they ask for what they want directly and try to match the offer.

[Bazongo]

can you still not barter your excess chips that you get? that's the worst part of the system for me. if you get a repeat chip you can't trade it in any more you just wasted a bunch of time, cringe

[dyra55]

Originally posted by Bazongo:

can you still not barter your excess chips that you get? that's the worst part of the system for me. if you get a repeat chip you can't trade it in any more you just wasted a bunch of time, cringe

I think you can now, i haven't played in a while but my brother that plays told me you can

[Bazongo]

Originally posted by dyra55:

Originally posted by Bazongo:

can you still not barter your excess chips that you get? that's the worst part of the system for me. if you get a repeat chip you can't trade it in any more you just wasted a bunch of time, cringe

I think you can now, i haven't played in a while but my brother that plays told me you can

that's good, i just played it and the new quality of life features are very nice. Especially the auto disassemble and reward highlights after you win.

barter should be fixed next I dont like having to spend so much time figuring out what's needed to bring along other than that i like the economy system