Did i just buy a game from russian developers ?

[SALZHERZ]

Really ?
Did i spend money, just checked the credits and this names ?
Anybody to clarify ?

[Tack]

Eltoron původně napsal:

Tack původně napsal:

So did the dev tell you they went and killed Ukrainians?

I know nothing about devs and says nothing about devs. I'm only oppose your statement. Country does not exist without people and can't do anything. It's a people who build tanks, give orders, pull triggers, bomb cities, brainwash children, feed soldiers and bring them fuel and ammunition.

So you made some huge generic statement unrelated to the devs of this game and the people who are trying to justify a reason not to buy it. Ok bud.

[jackar4444]

To a certain extent, I understand the position of asking people to respect their tastes because they are crazy about their tastes, but I feel a little disgusted by the comments made so proudly by those who are close to parasites in terms of social structure. They are probably the type of person who lives their whole life 'without thinking about anything,' and I think it would have been better for his reputation to just keep his mouth shut rather than leave a negative and mocking comment to the OP.

[Kåt Tsun]

SALZHERZ původně napsal:

61 year old german. And i know our history. Important to let dictators not rise.
And the devs which leave the country, to woke to fight for a chance.
Pathetic.

You shouldn't expect others to do what you failed to do yourselves.

Tack původně napsal:

Buntkreuz původně napsal:

Fair enough. My position here was more neutral, to be clear.

Understood. I just find the notion of trying to punish a game dev for their country's actions a bit grandstanding or misdirected anger.

I actually wonder if the devs are receiving money from Steam or GOG tbf. I'm sure they are now but getting around the bank sanctions has been rough for a lot of small groups in Russia. :(

That said, I bought the game on GOG, and I'll probably buy it on Steam too. It's really really good.

[PlatinumSun]

SALZHERZ původně napsal:

Really ?
Did i spend money, just checked the credits and this names ?
Anybody to clarify ?

Might I ask your occupation. If you are in industry there is a good chance your company buys from western companies that sell to Russia. US and Japan are the only places not consistently selling goods that are required for the Russian capacity to wage war.

Germany Austria and Switzerland are Russias best friend industry wise. Don't waste your time with boycots. If you care so much go give money to the Ukes or your blood.

[Shlone]

Nice xenophobia, bigot.

[Poop Lord, Lord of Poop]

♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ OP you got the bots coming out in hordes lmao

[Din511]

Best takes as always
even if russian developers are against the war in Ukraine they dont have the freedom of expression to admit it they get sent to the prison and possibly forced to become new bullet catchers on the frontlines
Russia doesnt really get much from gaming development if at all they still trade with gas and other resources with other countries like normal and ofc the blood money that the gas and oil industry making a bank out of it but sure some minor staff is really going to boost their war effort

[Viper]

And here we go... I already mentioned this a few days ago... that someone would bring up and question if this game was made by russians or what.

And here a quick history lesson... Russians are not kept from expressing themselves freely... no they can if they were not then they couldn't create bands and their own music and TV shows etc.... Half of them are just ignorant and all just like the stupid people you encounter in games... nothing different than what kind of arrogance you can expect when playing online with random people who assume they're all hot stuff and what not.

Look at Gaijin? they ban people who speak their minds and call them out on their lies and bs just like frontier the creators of elite dangerous..

It doesn't matter where they are from.. it matters how they show themselves to be.

And so far from my experience russian game devs and all are not exactly any different than anyone else.. I am not a fan of russian game companies cause whenever you attempt to explain something they usually just brush you off or make some false attempt to ensure you it will be taken care of.. when really they just don't welcome feed back unless it shares their own thoughts on how things work.

That is why the devs here don't interact that much unless it massages their egos. Same goes with almost any game company today.. they won't acknowledge you much unless you are kissing butt or appeal to their hypocrisy

[ULTRA]

Viper původně napsal:

And here we go... I already mentioned this a few days ago... that someone would bring up and question if this game was made by russians or what.

Behold, the second coming of Nostradamus

[Doomlord]

SALZHERZ původně napsal:

61 year old german. And i know our history. Important to let dictators not rise.
And the devs which leave the country, to woke to fight for a chance.
Pathetic.

As a fellow German, only thing I can say is: You're a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ disappointment...
Few manage to fail the history lesson as hard as you did.

[Btoad]

while we bicker with ourselves about our petty problems, WeylanYutani corp is slowly becoming a reality.

[ULTRA]

Lobo Gris původně napsal:

while we bicker with ourselves about our petty problems, WeylanYutani corp is slowly becoming a reality.

Don't worry, we're not at any risk of making it that far

[Watereaters]

NOOOOO I BOUGHT A GAME FROM RUSSIA!!!! THOSE HEKKIN WHOLESOME UKRAINIANS ARE GONNA DIE BECAUSE OF MY PURCHASE!!! NOOOO, I HAVE TO NOW WATCH SLOPVENGERS WITH MY FUNKO POP COLLECTION TO CALM DOWN!!!

[Red Bat]

Keksus původně napsal:

Tack původně napsal:

Um, why does it matter? A developer does not equate to the country's government. I believe from linked in the main dev actually now lives in Cyprus.

When you buy a game from a developer, they get money they need to pay taxes on which directly supports the government of the country they are living in. So when you buy a game, you not only support a developer, but possibly also a government which you don't want to support.

This is true and this has been a bit of a issue I've been on the fence about in terms of if there's an ethical obligation to boycott Chinese or Russian companies.

I'll throw the counter argument up to give you something to think about. Let's say there's a small business in a country who you don't want tax money going to. Yes, by boycotting you prevent tax money from going to that country, but on the flip-side you are also hurting a small business that couldn't find success without that problem simply because of where they are located. So on the extreme end, is it really fair to hold to the view ethically that every single business in Russia should fail, including businesses run by people who might even oppose the war, simply because some portion of the profit would go to the government? That obviously can't be the standard, so in terms of if there's an ethical obligation to boycott, it's got to be somewhere between "no obligation to boycott businesses from some country" and "boycott every business, they should all fail so the government can't collect taxes".

Doesn't matter either way, I don't think the devs are even located in Russia. There's people with Russian names everywhere.

[Feels]

I have reported OP to the feds, he should wait for a knock on the door any door now.