chronological order of frogware games?

[Tomxj]

Heya, I've recently played through Jack the ripper, is this the next game in the series chronological order? 10 years apart seems a bit much? If not, what is the chronological order of the Frogware Studios games?

Regards

Tom j

[Oanana]

When in doubt, Wikipedia[en.wikipedia.org].

[Tomxj]

Ah i think i have not made myself clear. I'm talking about the ingame series timeline.
For instance Jack the ripper is set in 1888 ant testament 1898. Are there any set inbetween those dates? Are all the other games pre 1888?

[The Tear Collector]

As far as I know it is as follows:

1888 - vs Jack the Ripper
1894 - The Awakened
1895 - vs. Arsène Lupin
1897 - The Case of the Silver Earring
1898 - Testament of Sherlock Holmes
1899 - The Mystery of the Mummy

Besides: Love the games! Gimme more!

[Tomxj]

ah! Thanks alot Alchemist!

[Hawk Tuah]

Nice list, thx as well

[Aldactone]

Originally posted by Alchemist:

As far as I know it is as follows:

1888 - vs Jack the Ripper
1894 - The Awakened
1895 - vs. Arsène Lupin
1897 - The Case of the Silver Earring
1898 - Testament of Sherlock Holmes
1899 - The Mystery of the Mummy

Besides: Love the games! Gimme more!

thanks! I was playing them in order to exit the market, but so is better.

[Bio]

Thnx for the list, saved me some time.

[Hawk Tuah]

I just realized but all of these games aside from Jack the Ripper take place *after* 1891. I think most true fans realize the significance of that date ie. The Fall at Reinbachs sooooo... how Is Moriarty still alive in these games?

[Celicynd]

Originally posted by Heisenberg:

I just realized but all of these games aside from Jack the Ripper take place *after* 1891. I think most true fans realize the significance of that date ie. The Fall at Reinbachs sooooo... how Is Moriarty still alive in these games?

**** SPOILERS ****

You end up in Switzerland in The Awakened. Reichenbach is actually mentioned, and something occurs that shows that Moriarity is not dead.

[paradox]

Thanks for the info! I came here from the Sherlock Holmes Bundle :D

[Botahamec]

I feel the need to add to this. I don't know the canonical dates for The Devil's Daughter or Crimes and Punishments. However, since Moriarty is dead in The Devil's Daughter, The Devil's Daughter must take place after The Testament of Sherlock Holmes. I haven't played through the entirety of Crimes and Punishments yet, but it must take place after Jack the Ripper, but before The Testament of Sherlock Holmes.

Also, according to the artbook for Crimes and Punishments, Mystery of the Mummy is not canon. So The Devil's Daughter is currently the last in the series, and I haven't found a good placement for Crimes and Punishments yet.

Edit: Crimes and Punishments takes place in November of 1894. The Awakened takes place in September of 1894. Therefore, the Wikipedia timeline is almost entirely correct, despite not having any citations. The only problem is Mystery of the Mummy.

[Voland]

does they even connected?

i mean, apart from Testament+DevilsDaughter ofc

[pibedetorres]

Originally posted by Voland:

does they even connected?

i mean, apart from Testament+DevilsDaughter ofc

There are small references to previous games in dialogues throughout the series, plus others that serve more as easter egg and are probably not to take too seriously.

Off the top of my head:

- At the beginning of The Case of the Silver Earring, we can see Lord Montcalf (who appeared in The Mystery of the Mummy) in a list of guests for Sir Bromsby's party and that name is crossed out because after what happens to him in the previous game he's unable to attend prestigious social gathering, so to say)

- In The Awakened, we get once more a reference about the first game, as the plaque to one of the cells at the clinic in Switzerland has Montcalf written on it (with what appears to be an old man inside the cell). It is worth noting that while this and the previous easter egg suggest that Mystery of the Mummy took place chronologically before the second and third game, the official description of the first game has it take place much later (as pointed out by Botahamec in this thread), and since the devs ended up declassifying it to non-canon we can just consider those as references not relevant to the continuity. We also get a glimpse of the not yet released (at the time) next game in the series, as an article of The Strand newspaper mentions daring theft in Paris by a mysterious thief who left a calling card with "A. L." at every place he stole from

- In Sherlock Holmes vs. Arsène Lupin, in order to head to our first destination (the art museum) we meet Lamb the coachman, who is recognized by Watson: he was indeed the same coachman working for Sir Bromsby in the second game, and he even slips up by calling Lady Bromsby "mistress" before correcting to "miss", for reasons tied to how The Case of the Silver Earring had ended. Moreover, among the pieces of furniture and memorabilia in Holmes' flat in Baker Street we can see a small sculpture of the Awakened evidently kept by Holmes as keepsake (with Watson commenting not so happily about it); another reference to the same game comes from Barnes (the bookstore owner) seemingly occupied with the same ritual from The Awakened

- at the beginning of Sherlock Holmes vs Jack the Ripper, which is released later but takes place a few years before all the above games (mostly to stay faithful to the year Jack the Ripper killed his victims), if we inspect some French champagne on the table Watson will comment that it's a gift to Holmes and there's a card with it that says "A gift from a young admirer", signed Raoul d'Andresy. Well, in Arsène Lupin's original novels by Maurice Leblanc that name is one of the thief's aliases. It seems Lupin had been following Holmes' brilliant investigations for a while before the two eventually met :) We also get to see Barnes fresh of opening his bookstore and meeting the detective for the first time

- Like mentioned by a post above, in The Testament of Sherlock Holmes we get a callback to The Awakened when we find out that a certain someone is around. There are also various references to the Jack the Ripper game (including a couple returning minor characters). The end of the game then anticipates a character that will be prominent in The Devil's Daughter. I also noticed a little nod to The Case of the Silver Earring when Holmes has to find the correct option among three different judges and one of them is named Bromsby (perhaps some unknown relative to Sir Bromsby and his daughter?)

There might be more references of games in the series that I'm forgetting, but thought I'd share what I noticed!