My hopes have been dashed to pieces!

[Captain Canard]

I have a number of hardware-demanding games in my library, and I've tried a couple of games that ran like very tired dogs so I returned them, but I can't remember a time since the 1990s when a game flat-out told me that "Your graphics card is not supported."

Well guess what - DD2 just told me my Geforce 1660ti is not supported. It did not even try to run - it just quit with that message. When I say DD2, I mean the free character creator, which I assume uses the same game engine as DD2 itself. So, I guess no DD2 for me now or a year from now... I confess, I'm kinda upset.

At least I was able to discover this BEFORE buying, downloading, and installing the full game, so that's something. Still makes me sad. And before you say, "Just buy a newer graphics card, stupid." I have a gaming laptop, not a desktop, a laptop than runs other games with equal or even superior graphics than DD2 without any problems, so no, I'm not buying a new laptop just for DD2.

Anyone else in a similar situation?

[Fang]

Another thing you have to remember is that Laptop versions of a GPU are weaker than the equivalent Desktop version. So you're already at a disadvantage as soon as you buy it.

Gaming laptops are for people who can easily buy an entirely new one. Otherwise a PC is cheaper down the line.

[pRaX]

"Man, why isn't this running on my Amiga 500." The thread.

[Mad Max]

You can probably buy another gaming laptop secondhand that's a few years old for dirt cheap that will run this game fine.

That's how old your graphics card is.

In PC Tech terms, it might as well be prehistoric.

[Norinia]

-_- Yet another "mUh 10 YeAr CoMpUtEr DoEsN'T wOrK fOr ThE LaTeSt Of NeW gAmEs " (probably an over exaggeration for the 1660, but I've literally seen people complain why won't their DDR3 machine from 2012 work -_-)

Upgrade to a low tier RTX 3000 or RX 6700 XT and your computer should work.

If you're talking about laptops, sorry, that was never going to happen. Hell, I had to retire my rx 580 laptop around 5-6 years ago too. (damn, I didn't realize how old I'd feel saying that until I got a good look at the calender year just now XD)

The GPU jump era with the RTX 3000 series and RX 6000 series was so massive, it's not surprising it encouraged games to start moving on to better things. (Not entirely for the better, mind you, with all the unoptimized games for no reason at all except laziness and an excuse to push stupid deadlines.)

[WastingSanity]

Originally posted by Norinia:

-_- Yet another "mUh 10 YeAr CoMpUtEr DoEsN'T wOrK fOr ThE LaTeSt Of NeW gAmEs...

I stopped reading when you showed your IQ. 2019 is not 10 years ago.

[Norinia]

Originally posted by pRaX:

"Man, why isn't this running on my Amiga 500." The thread.

I ♥♥♥♥ you not, Over on the Nightingale game discussions, there is someone who was complaining why his DDR3 computer would not run the game. (To be more precise, he was complaining that the game was asking for SSD not HDD, but upon questioning him and trying to diagnose the problem, he brought up this abomination.)

Even better, the guy had ONLY RECENTLY upgraded to the GTX 1080 Ti!!!!!!!!!! ONLY RECENTLY X_X I can't even imagine how much worse it must have been before! He refused to get why games weren't working on his computer (Someone actually diagnosed that his CPU and RAM were BOTTLENECKING his GPU!! BOTTLENECKING!!! On a GTX!!!)

It's mindboggling when people come here, surprised things aren't working on their computers, and then it turns out they have a rotten computer. I'd say potato, but occasionally they weren't potatos back in their days, but they're rotten now. I have a RX 7900 XTX (last GPU burnt out and I got lucky I could exchange the PC for exactly what I paid years ago, so I paid like 2/3s extra the cost of the GPU alone to completely and totally upgrade) but even I'm aware this GPU won't go more than 6-8 years in the industry. That's just how technology works; things constantly get improved and we move on to the next best thing. :/

[Norinia]

Originally posted by WastingSanity:

Originally posted by Norinia:

-_- Yet another "mUh 10 YeAr CoMpUtEr DoEsN'T wOrK fOr ThE LaTeSt Of NeW gAmEs...

I stopped reading when you showed your IQ. 2019 is not 10 years ago.

No, it's 5 years ago and that wasn't even the top GPU of it's time. But thanks for showing your I.Q, given you couldn't even read a few works beyond to me writing in parenthesis "I might be exaggerating on that" -_-

[Velber]

Originally posted by Kashra Fall:

Never understood people that have gaming laptops. I mean more power to you, but that has gotta get toasty on specific games. That being said, the min is a desktop 1070, which I think the 1660ti is a bit below that.

it is, i used one before i got my current desktop, so unless you find a way to upgrade the laptop, its gonna be a rough journey

[The Ultimate Despair]

Originally posted by wesnef:

Originally posted by RyuzakiMorgoth:

Why? Because they won't support cards from 15 years ago until 3045?

Originally posted by riplord:

I am on a Nvidia 1660 TI laptop and character creation demo worked for me.

it's not the card.

Also, if you look at the store page, the min req is a 1070. Which is older than the 1660 Ti.

It doesn't matter though. No one should be here running such old cards that are massively outdated, not to buy modern games at the very least. Even less on a darn laptop.

[The Ultimate Despair]

Originally posted by Norinia:

-_- Yet another "mUh 10 YeAr CoMpUtEr DoEsN'T wOrK fOr ThE LaTeSt Of NeW gAmEs :torielsad::torielsad::torielsad::torielsad::torielsad::torielsad:" (probably an over exaggeration for the 1660, but I've literally seen people complain why won't their DDR3 machine from 2012 work -_-)

Upgrade to a low tier RTX 3000 or RX 6700 XT and your computer should work.

If you're talking about laptops, sorry, that was never going to happen. Hell, I had to retire my rx 580 laptop around 5-6 years ago too. (damn, I didn't realize how old I'd feel saying that until I got a good look at the calender year just now XD)

The GPU jump era with the RTX 3000 series and RX 6000 series was so massive, it's not surprising it encouraged games to start moving on to better things. (Not entirely for the better, mind you, with all the unoptimized games for no reason at all except laziness and an excuse to push stupid deadlines.)

I'm personally on a 2060 Super and due to personal life happening, my plans to upgrade to a war machine has been thwarted :( But at least what I have a decent card still.

[Captain Canard]

Originally posted by Norinia:

-_- Yet another "mUh 10 YeAr CoMpUtEr DoEsN'T wOrK fOr ThE LaTeSt Of NeW gAmEs :torielsad::torielsad::torielsad::torielsad::torielsad::torielsad:" (probably an over exaggeration for the 1660, but I've literally seen people complain why won't their DDR3 machine from 2012 work -_-)

Upgrade to a low tier RTX 3000 or RX 6700 XT and your computer should work.

If you're talking about laptops, sorry, that was never going to happen. Hell, I had to retire my rx 580 laptop around 5-6 years ago too. (damn, I didn't realize how old I'd feel saying that until I got a good look at the calender year just now XD)

The GPU jump era with the RTX 3000 series and RX 6000 series was so massive, it's not surprising it encouraged games to start moving on to better things. (Not entirely for the better, mind you, with all the unoptimized games for no reason at all except laziness and an excuse to push stupid deadlines.)

You make fun of me, yet it also feels like you're on my side, LOL. I particularly agree with the new trend of unoptimized games. I've not run into any game that refuses to run on my 1660ti, but there's one in particular that runs like crap (Elite Dangerous Odyssey) so I returned it. Thing is, that game looks no better than the games that run beautifully on my computer. I can run games like RDR2 and even MSFS2020 with mostly high settings, and I get 60fps / 30fps respectively. Is DD2 truly so revolutionary that this same card can't even run it in low settings? I have my doubts. I think they just didn't put in the time to optimize it like older games had to because they just throw the latest hardware at it. But I agree with you, it is what it is. Though it does surprise me that a game also made for consoles has such a high PC hardware requirement. We're not talking about Star Citizen here.

Whatever the case may be, I'm not buying a new gaming rig for this one game (nor would I buy one for Elite Dangerous Odyssey), not when all my other games run fine. Someday when it physically dies, I'll grab a copy of the then-old DD2 for $10 and enjoy it "late to the party".

[WastingSanity]

Originally posted by Norinia:

Originally posted by WastingSanity:

I stopped reading when you showed your IQ. 2019 is not 10 years ago.

No, it's 5 years ago and that wasn't even the top GPU of it's time. But thanks for showing your I.Q, given you couldn't even read a few works beyond to me writing in parenthesis "I might be exaggerating on that" -_-

Exaggerating? Over exaggerating is more like it. Definitely a troll. "Paulie want a cracker?" Parroting what I said back at me means you are unoriginal as well. Have a great day.

[Mad Max]

Originally posted by Captain Canard:

Originally posted by Norinia:

-_- Yet another "mUh 10 YeAr CoMpUtEr DoEsN'T wOrK fOr ThE LaTeSt Of NeW gAmEs :torielsad::torielsad::torielsad::torielsad::torielsad::torielsad:" (probably an over exaggeration for the 1660, but I've literally seen people complain why won't their DDR3 machine from 2012 work -_-)

Upgrade to a low tier RTX 3000 or RX 6700 XT and your computer should work.

If you're talking about laptops, sorry, that was never going to happen. Hell, I had to retire my rx 580 laptop around 5-6 years ago too. (damn, I didn't realize how old I'd feel saying that until I got a good look at the calender year just now XD)

The GPU jump era with the RTX 3000 series and RX 6000 series was so massive, it's not surprising it encouraged games to start moving on to better things. (Not entirely for the better, mind you, with all the unoptimized games for no reason at all except laziness and an excuse to push stupid deadlines.)

You make fun of me, yet it also feels like you're on my side, LOL. I particularly agree with the new trend of unoptimized games. I've not run into any game that refuses to run on my 1660ti, but there's one in particular that runs like crap (Elite Dangerous Odyssey) so I returned it. Thing is, that game looks no better than the games that run beautifully on my computer. I can run games like RDR2 and even MSFS2020 with mostly high settings, and I get 60fps / 30fps respectively. Is DD2 truly so revolutionary that this same card can't even run it in low settings? I have my doubts. I think they just didn't put in the time to optimize it like older games had to because they just throw the latest hardware at it. But I agree with you, it is what it is. Though it does surprise me that a game also made for consoles has such a high PC hardware requirement. We're not talking about Star Citizen here.

Whatever the case may be, I'm not buying a new gaming rig for this one game (nor would I buy one for Elite Dangerous Odyssey), not when all my other games run fine. Someday when it physically dies, I'll grab a copy of the then-old DD2 for $10 and enjoy it "late to the party".

I think people are mostly just busting your chops.

But that graphics card is very old.

The good news is there's plenty of computer options now at reasonable prices.

I will always sing the praises of the 3060ti. Fairly priced, and perfect for 1080p gaming often punching above it's own weight.

[Wick3d]

Originally posted by Captain Canard:

I have a number of hardware-demanding games in my library, and I've tried a couple of games that ran like very tired dogs so I returned them, but I can't remember a time since the 1990s when a game flat-out told me that "Your graphics card is not supported."

Well guess what - DD2 just told me my Geforce 1660ti is not supported. It did not even try to run - it just quit with that message. When I say DD2, I mean the free character creator, which I assume uses the same game engine as DD2 itself. So, I guess no DD2 for me now or a year from now... I confess, I'm kinda upset.

At least I was able to discover this BEFORE buying, downloading, and installing the full game, so that's something. Still makes me sad. And before you say, "Just buy a newer graphics card, stupid." I have a gaming laptop, not a desktop, a laptop than runs other games with equal or even superior graphics than DD2 without any problems, so no, I'm not buying a new laptop just for DD2.

Anyone else in a similar situation?

Sorry to tell you but it's time to get a desktop computer or a new laptop. It's not just for Dragon's Dogma, new AAA games coming out now and in the nearest future will not be able to run on that gpu. No dlss support either on those old cards. You can get a decent desktop for 1000 usd with an intel arc a770 titan and a ryzen processor along with 16gb ram which is the best budget components when it comes to not bying used. The problem with laptops is they lack the longevity of a desktop computer so you'll have to get a new one quite often if you want to continue to play the newest games.

[pRaX]

I mean, I can totally understand if someone doesn't have the money for this very expensive luxury hobby. All good.
But being surprised or angry about not being able to play the newest games with an outdated system is a bit much.
There are thousands and thousands of games that will run on these specs.
Like, at least try to be reasonable and rational.
You aren't getting around via horse carriage or steam engine either anymore, aren't you?
The iron age is also ancient history.

And yes... optimization. They just don't do it. It's just not worth it to them.
You can add that issue to the giant pile of issues that also never changes and only gets worse.
That's the reality we're sadly in and it is what it is.