Dragon's Dogma 2

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ჯ๏ɱяɥǿķ™ Mar 17, 2024 @ 1:08am
Will it be possible to romance with your pawn?
I created my dream man (pawn), and want to romance with him. Will it be possible?
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Edelgris Apr 4, 2024 @ 8:08pm 
Originally posted by KawsMeCal:
Originally posted by Edelgris:

Ackshually... There is a quest line in DDDA BBI that disproves this. You discover bit by bit that the pawn of a former arisen develops deep feelings for her Arisen. Lorewise, pawns are not asexual nor aromantic.

Your pawn's affection level may rise. Whether that means they can be romanced, I'm not sure. My pawn is currently acting differently because of a higher affection level:

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3212424096
Asexuals and aromantics can still like and dislike others... And an exception isn't a rule. Sounds like whoever wrote that bit was someone not understanding the material or just making up ♥♥♥♥ anyways.

"they lack any sort of real emotion and willpower."

Asked Google Gemini too to see what it said on the subject:

Are pawns from dragon's Dogma universe asexual/aromantic?

Strongly suggested, yes. Here's why:

Lore: Pawns are depicted as beings without their own will, existing solely to serve their Arisen. This inherently limits their capacity for romantic or sexual feelings.
Gameplay: There's no romantic or flirtatious interaction options with pawns.
While the games don't explicitly state pawns are asexual/aromantic, the lore and mechanics heavily imply it.


Can pawns be sexual or romantic?

Not within the established lore or mechanics of Dragon's Dogma. Here's the breakdown:

Lore: Pawns are essentially magical beings called forth from another world. They lack their own souls and emotions, existing solely to aid their Arisen. This makes romantic or sexual desires unlikely.
Gameplay: There are no options to develop a romantic or sexual relationship with your pawn.
Some points to consider:

Interpretation: While the games don't explicitly say pawns are asexual/aromantic, the strong implication is that they are.
Mods: There might be mods for the PC version that introduce romance elements, but these wouldn't be part of the official story.
In short, pawns function as skilled companions, not romantic or sexual partners within the world of Dragon's Dogma.


For all intents and purposes, the answer to their question, is no because most of not all the pawns would be without the desire. You can write your weird harem fantasy in your head where that's how they "serve the Arisen" if you want, but nah.

You're using an autocomplete bot to argue with someone who has played the game and knows the lore? Ok...

Quote, Dragon's Dogma Wiki:
"The Pawn Olra was created by Grette, an Arisen of an ancient time. During their travels they met an orphaned boy named Ashe in the ruins of a village, who became an apprentice to Grette. Grette became both a mentor and mother figure to the boy. Eventually Grette and her pawn left him to fight the Dragon, but only the pawn returned, as a husk, masterless.

Grette and her pawn had fought and killed the Dragon, but had failed at the final step and Grette was slain fighting the Seneschal, thus she was transformed into the next Great Dragon. Ashe fell in love with Olra, and she with him - he made it his quest to return some light to the lost pawn's existence, and to avenge Grette and slay the dragon, not realizing that the dragon was actually Grette."

"I was his pawn, and his beloved besides."

source: https://dragonsdogma.fandom.com/wiki/Olra

"I came to notice the changes within me as his tireless ministrations saw my shattered memory slowly mend. I came to love him."

source: https://dragonsdogma.fandom.com/wiki/Monument_of_Remembrance#Page_8
Originally posted by KawsMeCal:
Originally posted by Edelgris:

Ackshually... There is a quest line in DDDA BBI that disproves this. You discover bit by bit that the pawn of a former arisen develops deep feelings for her Arisen. Lorewise, pawns are not asexual nor aromantic.

Your pawn's affection level may rise. Whether that means they can be romanced, I'm not sure. My pawn is currently acting differently because of a higher affection level:

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3212424096
Asexuals and aromantics can still like and dislike others... And an exception isn't a rule. Sounds like whoever wrote that bit was someone not understanding the material or just making up ♥♥♥♥ anyways.

"they lack any sort of real emotion and willpower."

Asked Google Gemini too to see what it said on the subject:

Are pawns from dragon's Dogma universe asexual/aromantic?

Strongly suggested, yes. Here's why:

Lore: Pawns are depicted as beings without their own will, existing solely to serve their Arisen. This inherently limits their capacity for romantic or sexual feelings.
Gameplay: There's no romantic or flirtatious interaction options with pawns.
While the games don't explicitly state pawns are asexual/aromantic, the lore and mechanics heavily imply it.


Can pawns be sexual or romantic?

Not within the established lore or mechanics of Dragon's Dogma. Here's the breakdown:

Lore: Pawns are essentially magical beings called forth from another world. They lack their own souls and emotions, existing solely to aid their Arisen. This makes romantic or sexual desires unlikely.
Gameplay: There are no options to develop a romantic or sexual relationship with your pawn.
Some points to consider:

Interpretation: While the games don't explicitly say pawns are asexual/aromantic, the strong implication is that they are.
Mods: There might be mods for the PC version that introduce romance elements, but these wouldn't be part of the official story.
In short, pawns function as skilled companions, not romantic or sexual partners within the world of Dragon's Dogma.


For all intents and purposes, the answer to their question, is no because most of not all the pawns would be without the desire. You can write your weird harem fantasy in your head where that's how they "serve the Arisen" if you want, but nah.

wrong and reported for Botpost.
Ruebeus Apr 4, 2024 @ 9:03pm 
You might want to go look at some of the hentai visual novel sex simulators. Perhaps something like Baldurs Gate 3.
CawsMeCal Apr 4, 2024 @ 9:07pm 
Originally posted by Edelgris:
Originally posted by KawsMeCal:
Asexuals and aromantics can still like and dislike others... And an exception isn't a rule. Sounds like whoever wrote that bit was someone not understanding the material or just making up ♥♥♥♥ anyways.

"they lack any sort of real emotion and willpower."

Asked Google Gemini too to see what it said on the subject:

Are pawns from dragon's Dogma universe asexual/aromantic?

Strongly suggested, yes. Here's why:

Lore: Pawns are depicted as beings without their own will, existing solely to serve their Arisen. This inherently limits their capacity for romantic or sexual feelings.
Gameplay: There's no romantic or flirtatious interaction options with pawns.
While the games don't explicitly state pawns are asexual/aromantic, the lore and mechanics heavily imply it.


Can pawns be sexual or romantic?

Not within the established lore or mechanics of Dragon's Dogma. Here's the breakdown:

Lore: Pawns are essentially magical beings called forth from another world. They lack their own souls and emotions, existing solely to aid their Arisen. This makes romantic or sexual desires unlikely.
Gameplay: There are no options to develop a romantic or sexual relationship with your pawn.
Some points to consider:

Interpretation: While the games don't explicitly say pawns are asexual/aromantic, the strong implication is that they are.
Mods: There might be mods for the PC version that introduce romance elements, but these wouldn't be part of the official story.
In short, pawns function as skilled companions, not romantic or sexual partners within the world of Dragon's Dogma.


For all intents and purposes, the answer to their question, is no because most of not all the pawns would be without the desire. You can write your weird harem fantasy in your head where that's how they "serve the Arisen" if you want, but nah.

You're using an autocomplete bot to argue with someone who has played the game and knows the lore? Ok...

Quote, Dragon's Dogma Wiki:
"The Pawn Olra was created by Grette, an Arisen of an ancient time. During their travels they met an orphaned boy named Ashe in the ruins of a village, who became an apprentice to Grette. Grette became both a mentor and mother figure to the boy. Eventually Grette and her pawn left him to fight the Dragon, but only the pawn returned, as a husk, masterless.

Grette and her pawn had fought and killed the Dragon, but had failed at the final step and Grette was slain fighting the Seneschal, thus she was transformed into the next Great Dragon. Ashe fell in love with Olra, and she with him - he made it his quest to return some light to the lost pawn's existence, and to avenge Grette and slay the dragon, not realizing that the dragon was actually Grette."

"I was his pawn, and his beloved besides."

source: https://dragonsdogma.fandom.com/wiki/Olra

"I came to notice the changes within me as his tireless ministrations saw my shattered memory slowly mend. I came to love him."

source: https://dragonsdogma.fandom.com/wiki/Monument_of_Remembrance#Page_8
I played the games and know the lore too. I also used the collective intelligence of the human race to see what it would say. I explained how this worked in that post too, but you apparently did not read it.

Originally posted by Grr. SG CMD Majah Lazah:
Originally posted by KawsMeCal:
Asexuals and aromantics can still like and dislike others... And an exception isn't a rule. Sounds like whoever wrote that bit was someone not understanding the material or just making up ♥♥♥♥ anyways.

"they lack any sort of real emotion and willpower."

Asked Google Gemini too to see what it said on the subject:

Are pawns from dragon's Dogma universe asexual/aromantic?

Strongly suggested, yes. Here's why:

Lore: Pawns are depicted as beings without their own will, existing solely to serve their Arisen. This inherently limits their capacity for romantic or sexual feelings.
Gameplay: There's no romantic or flirtatious interaction options with pawns.
While the games don't explicitly state pawns are asexual/aromantic, the lore and mechanics heavily imply it.


Can pawns be sexual or romantic?

Not within the established lore or mechanics of Dragon's Dogma. Here's the breakdown:

Lore: Pawns are essentially magical beings called forth from another world. They lack their own souls and emotions, existing solely to aid their Arisen. This makes romantic or sexual desires unlikely.
Gameplay: There are no options to develop a romantic or sexual relationship with your pawn.
Some points to consider:

Interpretation: While the games don't explicitly say pawns are asexual/aromantic, the strong implication is that they are.
Mods: There might be mods for the PC version that introduce romance elements, but these wouldn't be part of the official story.
In short, pawns function as skilled companions, not romantic or sexual partners within the world of Dragon's Dogma.


For all intents and purposes, the answer to their question, is no because most of not all the pawns would be without the desire. You can write your weird harem fantasy in your head where that's how they "serve the Arisen" if you want, but nah.

wrong and reported for Botpost.
Admitting to falsely reporting someone is a very smart thing to do.

Originally posted by Akihito Kanbara:
You might want to go look at some of the hentai visual novel sex simulators. Perhaps something like Baldurs Gate 3.
This goes for y'all two up there as well really getting triggered by the concept that your dreams of an arisen harem are not real. You're just gonna have to deal with that or just ignore everything and pretend that's what kind of services pawns help the Arisen with... Horny mfers...
Chaos Apr 4, 2024 @ 9:12pm 
There are Main pawn affinity in this game, with them blushing and some different random dialog, but that's it and a bit different true ending.
Last edited by Chaos; Apr 4, 2024 @ 9:12pm
Originally posted by KawsMeCal:
Originally posted by Edelgris:

You're using an autocomplete bot to argue with someone who has played the game and knows the lore? Ok...

Quote, Dragon's Dogma Wiki:
"The Pawn Olra was created by Grette, an Arisen of an ancient time. During their travels they met an orphaned boy named Ashe in the ruins of a village, who became an apprentice to Grette. Grette became both a mentor and mother figure to the boy. Eventually Grette and her pawn left him to fight the Dragon, but only the pawn returned, as a husk, masterless.

Grette and her pawn had fought and killed the Dragon, but had failed at the final step and Grette was slain fighting the Seneschal, thus she was transformed into the next Great Dragon. Ashe fell in love with Olra, and she with him - he made it his quest to return some light to the lost pawn's existence, and to avenge Grette and slay the dragon, not realizing that the dragon was actually Grette."

"I was his pawn, and his beloved besides."

source: https://dragonsdogma.fandom.com/wiki/Olra

"I came to notice the changes within me as his tireless ministrations saw my shattered memory slowly mend. I came to love him."

source: https://dragonsdogma.fandom.com/wiki/Monument_of_Remembrance#Page_8
I played the games and know the lore too. I also used the collective intelligence of the human race to see what it would say. I explained how this worked in that post too, but you apparently did not read it.

Originally posted by Grr. SG CMD Majah Lazah:

wrong and reported for Botpost.
Admitting to falsely reporting someone is a very smart thing to do.

Originally posted by Akihito Kanbara:
You might want to go look at some of the hentai visual novel sex simulators. Perhaps something like Baldurs Gate 3.
This goes for y'all two up there as well really getting triggered by the concept that your dreams of an arisen harem are not real. You're just gonna have to deal with that or just ignore everything and pretend that's what kind of services pawns help the Arisen with... Horny mfers...

not false. You literally copy pasta'd a bot spam response that is also categorically untrue.

Dark Arisen's literal theme is lost love, according to Kenichi Suzuki.
Last edited by Grr. [SG CMD] Majah Lazah; Apr 4, 2024 @ 9:16pm
CawsMeCal Apr 4, 2024 @ 9:19pm 
Originally posted by Grr. SG CMD Majah Lazah:
Originally posted by KawsMeCal:
I played the games and know the lore too. I also used the collective intelligence of the human race to see what it would say. I explained how this worked in that post too, but you apparently did not read it.


Admitting to falsely reporting someone is a very smart thing to do.


This goes for y'all two up there as well really getting triggered by the concept that your dreams of an arisen harem are not real. You're just gonna have to deal with that or just ignore everything and pretend that's what kind of services pawns help the Arisen with... Horny mfers...

not false. You literally copy pasta'd a bot spam response that is also categorically untrue.

Dark Arisen's literal theme is lost love, according to Kenichi Suzuki.
Except I explained how it works... Using a bot that collects information from all around the Internet on top of that is not a spam bot. You don't know the ToS either it seems.
Originally posted by KawsMeCal:
Originally posted by Grr. SG CMD Majah Lazah:

not false. You literally copy pasta'd a bot spam response that is also categorically untrue.

Dark Arisen's literal theme is lost love, according to Kenichi Suzuki.
Except I explained how it works... Using a bot that collects information from all around the Internet on top of that is not a spam bot. You don't know the ToS either it seems.

no, you literally lied by ignorance about a game you have obviously never played that directly contradicts every word you posted.
Edelgris Apr 4, 2024 @ 9:23pm 
Originally posted by KawsMeCal:
This goes for y'all two up there as well really getting triggered by the concept that your dreams of an arisen harem are not real. You're just gonna have to deal with that or just ignore everything and pretend that's what kind of services pawns help the Arisen with... Horny mfers...

Sounds like you're going for the old "I was just trolling you all along" escape plan.
just report him.
Shin Happens Apr 5, 2024 @ 9:46am 
What a moot debate, even if you disregard all of DD1 DD2 makes it very obvious that a) pawns have feelings and basic human needs like sleep or food and b) your own pawn develops at least a crush on the Arisen - why else would they blush once you reach a certain affinity level or repeatedly tell you how their heart is at peace when they are with you etc. Pawns in DD2 may be magical beings without a proper free will, but they are not just "bots".
Outlaw Mugen Apr 5, 2024 @ 12:18pm 
Originally posted by Ratley:
Nope, pawns are not people. They have no soul. That's the plot of one of the characters in the first game.

I'm sorry but "soul" is not the word I would use. Soul is what makes US - US. Our thoughts, dreams, aspirations both good and evil. We are a living soul.

Pawns have inclinations and they often speak their "mind". Rejoicing after hard battle and are happy by being by Arisen's side. I would argue that they are "living souls" just like humans in the world of DD.

Now the game tries to portray them as beings without their own "will". Or should I say their only will is to serve the Arisen. That's their purpose. Apparently they cannot change it unless some outside source does it for them ( some sort of artifact or dragon's plague ).
Adding to that they are immortal... it seems to me they are "Spirits" or "Messengers" from the "Rift" and their mission is to assist the Arisen. Further adding to my argument that Pawns do posses the "Soul" ( "immortality", personality / inclination etc. ).

It's just their "will" is bound by a strong desire to be useful to Arisen. Within those constraints they can act freely. Which again proves the point of them having a soul.

Having said all of that I think if Capcom wanted they could have easily added a quest that would free our "main" pawn from shackles of "Arisen's servitude". Just watch ending of first Dragons Dogma and the fact they can be influenced to change their behaviour by outside sources ).
Last edited by Outlaw Mugen; Apr 5, 2024 @ 12:23pm
steelrain2583 May 4, 2024 @ 7:48pm 
Originally posted by Laan:
Why would you romance something that has no feeling ? Buy a sexdoll, pawns are made to fight not ♥♥♥♥
It's a video game; a fantasy. Who the hell cares?
Sel Und Irae May 4, 2024 @ 7:52pm 
A certain adult site already has the mod out to do this, No . . I will not share :')
steelrain2583 May 4, 2024 @ 7:54pm 
Originally posted by KawsMeCal:
Originally posted by Edelgris:

You're using an autocomplete bot to argue with someone who has played the game and knows the lore? Ok...

Quote, Dragon's Dogma Wiki:
"The Pawn Olra was created by Grette, an Arisen of an ancient time. During their travels they met an orphaned boy named Ashe in the ruins of a village, who became an apprentice to Grette. Grette became both a mentor and mother figure to the boy. Eventually Grette and her pawn left him to fight the Dragon, but only the pawn returned, as a husk, masterless.

Grette and her pawn had fought and killed the Dragon, but had failed at the final step and Grette was slain fighting the Seneschal, thus she was transformed into the next Great Dragon. Ashe fell in love with Olra, and she with him - he made it his quest to return some light to the lost pawn's existence, and to avenge Grette and slay the dragon, not realizing that the dragon was actually Grette."

"I was his pawn, and his beloved besides."

source: https://dragonsdogma.fandom.com/wiki/Olra

"I came to notice the changes within me as his tireless ministrations saw my shattered memory slowly mend. I came to love him."

source: https://dragonsdogma.fandom.com/wiki/Monument_of_Remembrance#Page_8
I played the games and know the lore too. I also used the collective intelligence of the human race to see what it would say. I explained how this worked in that post too, but you apparently did not read it.

Originally posted by Grr. SG CMD Majah Lazah:

wrong and reported for Botpost.
Admitting to falsely reporting someone is a very smart thing to do.

Originally posted by Akihito Kanbara:
You might want to go look at some of the hentai visual novel sex simulators. Perhaps something like Baldurs Gate 3.
This goes for y'all two up there as well really getting triggered by the concept that your dreams of an arisen harem are not real. You're just gonna have to deal with that or just ignore everything and pretend that's what kind of services pawns help the Arisen with... Horny mfers...


Originally posted by Outlaw Mugen:
Originally posted by Ratley:
Nope, pawns are not people. They have no soul. That's the plot of one of the characters in the first game.

I'm sorry but "soul" is not the word I would use. Soul is what makes US - US. Our thoughts, dreams, aspirations both good and evil. We are a living soul.

Pawns have inclinations and they often speak their "mind". Rejoicing after hard battle and are happy by being by Arisen's side. I would argue that they are "living souls" just like humans in the world of DD.

Now the game tries to portray them as beings without their own "will". Or should I say their only will is to serve the Arisen. That's their purpose. Apparently they cannot change it unless some outside source does it for them ( some sort of artifact or dragon's plague ).
Adding to that they are immortal... it seems to me they are "Spirits" or "Messengers" from the "Rift" and their mission is to assist the Arisen. Further adding to my argument that Pawns do posses the "Soul" ( "immortality", personality / inclination etc. ).

It's just their "will" is bound by a strong desire to be useful to Arisen. Within those constraints they can act freely. Which again proves the point of them having a soul.

Having said all of that I think if Capcom wanted they could have easily added a quest that would free our "main" pawn from shackles of "Arisen's servitude". Just watch ending of first Dragons Dogma and the fact they can be influenced to change their behaviour by outside sources ).
They still can and should.
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