DLSS Support

[vileDEM1URG3]

I've read a few conflicting things regarding DLSS and want to clear it up for myself and anybody else that is confused.

I have a 2070 super, and was banking on DLSS to help me get decent enough frames for DD2, but a few people have been saying DLSS is only available to the 40 series cards in DD2.

Is there any truth to this? Or will my 2070 super be fine with DLSS.

[Lord of Dreams]

Originally posted by Dyna:

Originally posted by Lord of Dreams:

No because we only have DLSS 3 in DD2, so you are limited to DLSS2.

DLSS3.5 was released in September 2023, while DD2 was already in development and probably final stages of development, maybe they will give it to us if we moan enough.

If you trust frogs to much on the internet you will be misinformed.

You can find the list of games that has 3.5 here

https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforce/news/nvidia-rtx-games-engines-apps/

What he said above is true per this article but the game is not using DLSS3.5 so he is misinforming you.
https://www.theverge.com/2023/8/22/23841148/nvidia-dlss-3-5-ray-reconstruction-ray-tracing-quality

Just going to update it with DLSS Swapper like i always do to get 3.5

As stated above we were not talking about mods but yah if you want to tell him that is also an option that he can use to improve his framerate go ahead, I am sure some will go for it, but do keep in mind this is using a semi online connection for Pawns updates and Denuvo. I have not looked into it yet as I don't have a reason to.

[Dyna]

Originally posted by Lord of Dreams:

Originally posted by Dyna:

Just going to update it with DLSS Swapper like i always do to get 3.5

As stated above we were not talking about mods but yah if you want to tell him that is also an option that he can use to improve his framerate go ahead, I am sure some will go for it. Myself I have not looked into it yet as I don't have a reason to.

I would not consider dlss 3.5 a mod. I am updating it to latest version that is all.

[Lord of Dreams]

Originally posted by Dyna:

Originally posted by Lord of Dreams:

As stated above we were not talking about mods but yah if you want to tell him that is also an option that he can use to improve his framerate go ahead, I am sure some will go for it. Myself I have not looked into it yet as I don't have a reason to.

I would not consider dlss 3.5 a mod. I am updating it to latest version that is all.

You are modifying the dlss game files, please don't make it sound like is nothing and inform people about the risk too not just about the sweet and easy benefits.

[Dyna]

Originally posted by Lord of Dreams:

Originally posted by Dyna:

I would not consider dlss 3.5 a mod. I am updating it to latest version that is all.

You are modifying the dlss game files, please don't make it sound like is nothing and inform people about the risk too not just about the sweet and easy benefits.

They got the Nvidia signature stamp so i don't see the issue with improving the upscaler with the update.

What kind of problems are you suggesting that can happen?

[[-iD-]]

Originally posted by Dyna:

Originally posted by Lord of Dreams:

As stated above we were not talking about mods but yah if you want to tell him that is also an option that he can use to improve his framerate go ahead, I am sure some will go for it. Myself I have not looked into it yet as I don't have a reason to.

I would not consider dlss 3.5 a mod. I am updating it to latest version that is all.

odds are bugs will be rampant when you do this.

[Lord of Dreams]

Originally posted by Dyna:

Originally posted by Lord of Dreams:

You are modifying the dlss game files, please don't make it sound like is nothing and inform people about the risk too not just about the sweet and easy benefits.

They got the Nvidia signature stamp so i don't see the issue with improving the upscaler with the update.

What kind of problems are you suggesting that can happen?

Pawn corruptions, issues with Denuvo.

[Dyna]

Originally posted by Lord of Dreams:

Originally posted by Dyna:

They got the Nvidia signature stamp so i don't see the issue with improving the upscaler with the update.

What kind of problems are you suggesting that can happen?

Pawn corruptions, issues with Denuvo.

Pawn corruptions? Got many games with Denuvo and it never complained.

[Lord of Dreams]

Originally posted by Dyna:

Originally posted by Lord of Dreams:

Pawn corruptions, issues with Denuvo.

Pawn corruptions? Got many games with Denuvo and it never complained.

In the first one if you altered your game files(mods), people would not be able to summon and hire your Pawn in the Rift. Upon invocation you receive "Corrupted Pawn Data" and the pawn is not summoned.

[Dyna]

Originally posted by Lord of Dreams:

Originally posted by Dyna:

Pawn corruptions? Got many games with Denuvo and it never complained.

In the first one if you altered your game files(mods), people would not be able to summon and hire your Pawn in the Rift.

But is the pawn id not just a long line of numbers and nothing else? I guess ill check that Reddit thing and see if it is an issue before i update DLSS to 3.5

No DLSS for the first game. That would be alteration of game files for sure but i see DLSS as a seperate entity and i dont consider it a game file.

Capcom files and Nvidia files that is all i see. I am not going to mess around with the Capcom files.

[Zyppeler]

Originally posted by Lord of Dreams:

Originally posted by vileDEM1URG3:

Thank you very much for clearing up my confusion. So to sum it up, dlss will definitely be usable for me in DD2 with my 2070s, just not the frame gen aspect?

No because we only have DLSS 3 in DD2, so you are limited to DLSS2 if you are using RTX20.

DLSS3.5 was released in September 2023, while DD2 was already in development and probably final stages of development, maybe they will give it to us if we moan enough.

If you trust frogs too much on the internet you will be misinformed.

You can find the list of games that have 3.5 here

https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforce/news/nvidia-rtx-games-engines-apps/

In case you are too lazy to do Ctrl+ F the games that have it are:
Alan Wake 2
Cyberpunk 2077
That's it!!!

What he said above is true per this article but the game is not using DLSS3.5 so he is misinforming you.
https://www.theverge.com/2023/8/22/23841148/nvidia-dlss-3-5-ray-reconstruction-ray-tracing-quality

The picture I posted (from Nvidia) shows that every DLSS capable GPU can use DLSS 3.5. I thought the game has DLSS 3.5 but it has just DLSS 3, my bad here but in the end it doesn't change much for him because he can still use the best feature of DLSS, the Super Resolution with his 2070 in Dragon's Dogma 2 which will boost his performance exceptional.

DLSS is the name of the feature set and 2, 2.x, 3, 3.x, 3.5, etc. are simply the version numbers. The chart is stating what features are included with each version number and what cards can do each feature. RTX 20 and 30 cards are still getting the latest DLSS updates to Super Resolution and DLAA.

Here is a video about this: (Timestamp) https://youtu.be/v9EXsBaO06Y?t=389

Originally posted by vileDEM1URG3:

Originally posted by Zyppeler:

Just to clarify some things:

- DLSS 3.5 contains Super Resolution & DLAA, Frame Generation and Ray Reconstruction.
- DLSS 3.5 is for all DLSS capable GPUs. DLSS capable GPUs are 20XX, 30XX and 40XX.
- DLSS 3.5 Super Resolution (Upscaling) works on all DLSS capable GPUs but Frame Generation is exclusive for 40XX.

That means you can use DLSS 3.5 Super Resolution with your 2070 but you cannot use Frame Generation.

https://i.imgur.com/3D39LFm.png

Thank you very much for clearing up my confusion. So to sum it up, dlss will definitely be usable for me in DD2 with my 2070s, just not the frame gen aspect?

Yes you should be able to use DLSS (Super Resolution) with your 2070 in Dragon's Dogma 2. At least the graphic from Nvidia suggest this and the information I gathered from youtuber suggest that also.

I even asked a friend of mine now to test it (he has a 2080 Super) in Jurassic Park 2 which has DLSS 3 and he can enable DLSS with Super Resolution there.

https://i.imgur.com/s0UNlXs.jpg

[Lord of Dreams]

Some interesting article I was reading right now, again up to you what you do.

https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/gpus/new-mod-brings-huge-performance-uplifts-on-old-nvidia-gaming-gpus-dlss-3-to-fsr-3-mod-enables-frame-generation-to-deliver-up-to-75-better-performance-on-previous-geforce-rtx-gpus#:~:text=GPUs-,Old%20Nvidia%20gaming%20GPUs%20enjoy%20huge%20performance%20uplifts%20from%20new,on%20previous%20GeForce%20RTX%20GPUs&text=AMD%20Radeon%20GPU%20owners%20are,for%20the%20current%20time%20being.&text=Don't%20fret%20if%20you,of%20the%20best%20graphics%20cards.

[Nibellion]

Originally posted by Deviant:

Originally posted by Kocayine:

Thank you ~ so much bs on this thread.

so much bs? there are 3 different posts on this thread

Originally posted by Kocayine:

Originally posted by Zyppeler:

Just to clarify some things:

- DLSS 3.5 contains Super Resolution & DLAA, Frame Generation and Ray Reconstruction.
- DLSS 3.5 is for all DLSS capable GPUs. DLSS capable GPUs are 20XX, 30XX and 40XX.
- DLSS 3.5 Super Resolution (Upscaling) works on all DLSS capable GPUs but Frame Generation is exclusive for 40XX.

That means you can use DLSS 3.5 Super Resolution with your 2070 but you cannot use Frame Generation.

https://i.imgur.com/3D39LFm.png

Thank you ~ so much bs on this thread.

I'm almost sure you can use the dlssg-to-fsr3 mod to enable Frame Generation, since it supports both DLSS 3.5 AND FSR 3.

[Dyna]

Originally posted by Nibellion:

Originally posted by Deviant:

so much bs? there are 3 different posts on this thread

Originally posted by Kocayine:

Thank you ~ so much bs on this thread.

I'm almost sure you can use the dlssg-to-fsr3 mod to enable Frame Generation, since it supports both DLSS 3.5 AND FSR 3.

No longer any need for that mod since FSR 3.1 offers Frame Generation along with DLSS for nvidia owners "soon"

Hardware Unboxed video on FSR 3.1
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mF_rlgyvuBg

Hope they release it as fast as possible.

[CalamdÜmr]

No frame Generation on the review build as far i know. but it is reported the files are there.
Who knows why they disabled it.