4060ti not enough to run this game?

[merio kingston]

Just upgraded to a 8gb vram gpu and when I launch the game it says it's not compatible?

[Despiser]

Everyone has NASA computers these days. Don’t listen to them. Generations are separated by months instead of years now. Keeping up leading edge is an unnecessary expense. 4060 is fine and falls into recommended specs on almost every game. CPU is just as important as is ram speed and of course, SSD is added now too. 16 GB RAM / 8 VRAM will pull you through for a while.

[Dyna]

Maybe watch this 4060 8GB and 16GB comparison.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_-j1vdMV1Cc

[RedSeptember]

Publicado originalmente por Defender:

Publicado originalmente por Keldrath:

Don’t listen to people saying 8gb isn’t enough it’s still plenty especially if you aren’t gaming at 4k and trying to push textures to the max.

agreed , 1080 gaming and 1440 is honestly amazing , 4k seems like its just you need the best everything to keep up lol

lol what? 1080p @ 2k is not "amazing". It's good and fine, that's about it. 4k on a 55inch LG is amazing though.

You don't need the best everything. I have a 4080, 17 13th gen and 32gb ram. I can run most if not all games maxed and thanks to DLSS, it makes 4k gaming more accessible to people.

[D. Flame]

Publicado originalmente por c0Zm1c:

I've put over 100 hours into the game using an 8GB graphics card (RTX 3060 Ti) and other than low performance in cities and settlements (CPU related) I haven't run into any issues. Afterburner says it's processing ~6.5GB VRAM at most.

The game's VRAM meter going into the red is likely an oversight on Capcom's behalf because even their recommended Nvidia graphics card (RTX 2080) has only 8GB VRAM and that's for a stated 4K resolution no less.

Getting a graphics card with more than 8GB VRAM instead isn't bad advice but with regard to the question being asked here "8gb vram" is absolutely "enough to run this game."

That's because when the vRAM is full, it starts using system RAM instead.

Like test the game with an 16 GB GPU and take note of your system ram usage. Then test the same game with the same settings using an 8GB GPU. When using the 8GB card, you will notice that your system RAM is sitting at a higher percentage consistently.

This is just going to become more common moving forward. If you just bought your GPU, then you are better off exchanging it for a 16 GB version.

[D. Flame]

Publicado originalmente por RedSeptember:

Publicado originalmente por Defender:

agreed , 1080 gaming and 1440 is honestly amazing , 4k seems like its just you need the best everything to keep up lol

lol what? 1080p @ 2k is not "amazing". It's good and fine, that's about it. 4k on a 55inch LG is amazing though.

You don't need the best everything. I have a 4080, 17 13th gen and 32gb ram. I can run most if not all games maxed and thanks to DLSS, it makes 4k gaming more accessible to people.

If you are playing with DLSS, then you are not playing at 4K. You are being fooled by fake upscaling.

[marco_cane]

Publicado originalmente por merio kingston:

Just upgraded to a 8gb vram gpu and when I launch the game it says it's not compatible?

With the 4060 IT 8GB I play in 4K at all high
fps 50/60
Ray Tracing disabled
SSR disabled
Motion blur turned off
DLSS on performance

[D. Flame]

Publicado originalmente por marco_cane:

Publicado originalmente por merio kingston:

Just upgraded to a 8gb vram gpu and when I launch the game it says it's not compatible?

With the 4060 IT 8GB I play in 4K at all high
fps 50/60
Ray Tracing disabled
SSR disabled
Motion blur turned off
DLSS on performance

WTF is a 4060 "IT"? Do you mean the 4060 "Ti" as in "Ti"tanium?

[Karumati]

Publicado originalmente por Defender:

Publicado originalmente por Keldrath:

Don’t listen to people saying 8gb isn’t enough it’s still plenty especially if you aren’t gaming at 4k and trying to push textures to the max.

agreed , 1080 gaming and 1440 is honestly amazing , 4k seems like its just you need the best everything to keep up lol

I seen over 11gb of vram in use whilst playing at 3440x1440.

[c0Zm1c]

Publicado originalmente por D. Flame:

That's because when the vRAM is full, it starts using system RAM instead.

Like test the game with an 16 GB GPU and take note of your system ram usage. Then test the same game with the same settings using an 8GB GPU. When using the 8GB card, you will notice that your system RAM is sitting at a higher percentage consistently.

This is just going to become more common moving forward. If you just bought your GPU, then you are better off exchanging it for a 16 GB version.

My VRAM isn't full though when I'm playing this game. If it was I would be seeing noticeable drops in performance outside of the commonly reported CPU-related issues this game has when you're in cities/settlements. I don't play the game at max settings though and...

Publicado originalmente por Dyna:

Maybe watch this 4060 8GB and 16GB comparison.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_-j1vdMV1Cc

Choice of settings is certainly an important factor. After all, the recommended Nvidia graphics card for Ratchet & Clank (shown at the start of that video) has only 6GB VRAM, which clearly isn't meant for running the game at high resolutions/maximum settings.

In most cases you're better off sticking with what a given game defaults to for your given hardware, adjusting only a few minor settings for preference and then making do with it but, well, "making do" isn't a popular thing.

[Gamefever]

8 gb vram is cutting it close, don't fall into the mental trap that it is enough, the reality is it may be more than plenty or it's not enough because it depends on the games played and desired outcomes.

So people can say honestly it's not enough because they are not willing to lower settings play at lower resolutions.

Others say it's enough maybe they only play in 1080p, or play older games (which with new tech is pretty amazing).

It appears that the current model of how much vram we will get in next gems models is going to stay the same. So we are not getting away from 8 gig vram for a while.

How much vram you need in 1080p?
Depends on how you use PC and what game, there are games that use more vram with all settings on. Heck some of the reports come back 7.5 vram but uh that's not really true the extra bit of space is needed on the vram to handle some spikes and well this helps not crash or freeze PC.
So the extra info goes to your storage disk cache or RAM or both.

It's unfortunate that the topic is complicated and even watching a YouTube tech video may not help heck there are loads of these videos that are misleading for purpose of gating you towards specific products. Even on high end.

[Gamefever]

Yes more vram is better, it helps the fps averages result is fps stability aka less or even no stutter. Meaning game plays NICE sweet smooth butter frames.

For that matter more system RAM can also have similar results although not all games use much more RAM than say 16. Meaning ideal low end amount of RAM is 32 gigs, because your background programs use RAM too. 64 plus is good for say asset creation, video production, and streaming games. However it is nice for gamers that have to do everything on PC at all times haha, all the windows open, movies playing and people on phone.

Well the reason why we end up with all over the place advice is due to how the PCs got marketed over the last 4 or so years during the cough cough times.

Tech tubers literally saying stuff like 8 gigs of video ram all you need. 16 gigs of system RAM all you need, and famously 4 cores on CPU is all you need. All of which aged like milk, yuk.

Main issue is that set people up for playing games at low end and at high price points and did not account for varied users, hey it's easier to see images clearly in high resolution no surprise but if you don't have good vision that higher resolution helps a lot and matters more.

Anyway it's about cost and what you desire plus don't let the techs confuse you if you build yourself a PC with premium parts you get what you pay for plus you can relax a bit about being on the PC turn over tech ladder, you might still be playing some games at decent fps an res a few more years than it's intended. Where if all your parts are on low end well now you gotta upgrade for current titles.

My favorite strat against having to then buy new stuff though is don't forget about older games! Cause that entry level gaming PC will handle 5-10 year old games like a monster 😁

[c0Zm1c]

It hasn't helped that Nvidia (and AMD to an extent) have been quite stingy with the amount of VRAM they've put on certain flagship/non-flagship hardware over the years.

It's kind of amazing that throughout the last 8 years we've had the GTX 1070/1080, RTX 2070/2080, RTX 3070/3060 Ti all launch with the same VRAM count (8GB). Then you get weird outliers like the original RTX 3050 having 8GB too and the RTX 3060 having a whole 12GB. I know that it all comes down to bus bandwidths determining what memory can be installed but it's only natural to expect a more performant graphics card like, say, the 3060 Ti to have more memory than the lower performing 3060. The GTX 1660 Super having better memory spec than its superior Ti counterpart was an odd one too. :\

[D. Flame]

Publicado originalmente por c0Zm1c:

Publicado originalmente por D. Flame:

That's because when the vRAM is full, it starts using system RAM instead.

Like test the game with an 16 GB GPU and take note of your system ram usage. Then test the same game with the same settings using an 8GB GPU. When using the 8GB card, you will notice that your system RAM is sitting at a higher percentage consistently.

This is just going to become more common moving forward. If you just bought your GPU, then you are better off exchanging it for a 16 GB version.

My VRAM isn't full though when I'm playing this game. If it was I would be seeing noticeable drops in performance outside of the commonly reported CPU-related issues this game has when you're in cities/settlements. I don't play the game at max settings though and...

Publicado originalmente por Dyna:

Maybe watch this 4060 8GB and 16GB comparison.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_-j1vdMV1Cc

Choice of settings is certainly an important factor. After all, the recommended Nvidia graphics card for Ratchet & Clank (shown at the start of that video) has only 6GB VRAM, which clearly isn't meant for running the game at high resolutions/maximum settings.

In most cases you're better off sticking with what a given game defaults to for your given hardware, adjusting only a few minor settings for preference and then making do with it but, well, "making do" isn't a popular thing.

In the example I saw, it wasn’t full either.

The person with 16GB had their game sitting at around 11 GB used by the game.


With the same settings on an 8GB card, they were sitting at 6.7GB used and their system RAM use was a little over 4GB higher.

The 8GB card had worse 1% lows because of needing to swap between the two RAMs.

[Pinger]

as you just bought it and if in EU RMA as we have a 2 week cooling off period when the seller has to refund, not just exchange but saying that contact the seller and see if they will do a deal on the 16gig 4060ti or a 4070. You don't get it you don't ask. but at least get a refund as not suitable for the intended use.

[c0Zm1c]

Publicado originalmente por D. Flame:

In the example I saw, it wasn’t full either.

The person with 16GB had their game sitting at around 11 GB used by the game.


With the same settings on an 8GB card, they were sitting at 6.7GB used and their system RAM use was a little over 4GB higher.

The 8GB card had worse 1% lows because of needing to swap between the two RAMs.

Performance is the determining factor in such a case. If I was experiencing notable performance drops, which would indeed be very noticeable if the game needed to start swapping data in and out between system and VRAM, then that would suggest a problem somewhere but I'm not.