Main Pawn "punished for playing the game"

[Cinnamon Toast King]

Kinda sucks that if you are enjoying the game and keep playing that your Main Pawn will keep leveling and by doing so lowers the chance of them ever being hired again.

Granted I don't know how long this takes but they are already level 63 and unless it starts to slow down to a crawl at some point they will become un-hireable.

They are end game kitted out with augments, weapon skills and rings to compliment their tank purpose. I do also set up pawn rewards for 5 All heal Elixers.

At what level will hiring become and issue?

[louveteau01]

Originally posted by Cinnamon Toast King:

Originally posted by Dollmaker:

Worth mentioning that putting up quests has a decent chance of getting hired, like the typical 10k gold

I heard All Elixers or Eternal Wakestones are better at higher levels. Gold becomes redundant

The perfect elixir is a perfect one, full heal, full nullification of whatever malus you had, and healt bar at 100 % 12k at the forgery shop =( damn if it's costy

[Cinnamon Toast King]

Originally posted by Little Strawberry:

Originally posted by Cinnamon Toast King:

I like to help players in games where I can and making a pawn that's got for all purposes a "perfect build" and knowing how useful they are is nice.

Yeah I enjoy the reward of knowing my pawn is useful, if that bothers you, you didn't have to say anything.

It doesn't bother me, but I want to understand the mentality behind it.

There's thousands of other helpful pawns at low level. It doesn't sound very altruistic if you are bothered by having to compete with those in order to help others. To explain; in many ways, you would displace other pawns in the pool, just so it can be you that "helped" them instead of the vastly many more people, where as people on your level would in theory not get to access your pawn in their small pawn pool, which in turn means your intentions can't be altruistic, but rather self serving. It is illogical and paradoxical if you would argue that you're just altruistic. I'd rather have someone just be honest and say that it feeds their endless greed or narcissism when they see their pawn getting hired while others do not. There's also the whole idea of beginners having no idea what "meta" is and what isn't, so you'll more likely ruin their game, just like it always happens when you start a new game and your friends give you all the best gear.

Anyway, if you're so set on it: start a new game. It takes 2 minutes to learn the meta skills and augments for the respective vocation. Or 30 minutes if you also want the best gear until the true ending. You start the game as a thief, make tarred arrows on the way to the outpost after the griffin in the prologue dies, then trade the tarred arrows for rings of endeavor with pawns, then go take shadow cloak, brine your pawn, go through the waterfall cave which skips the escort quest, get thrown into prison in vernworth, go activate the portcrystal, run to the fog area with the portcrystal or do the sphinx, then smuggle yourself across the border in checkpoint rest town, get out of the cart and get thrown into prison to end up instantly in the second main city, put down the portcrystal and run all the way south, then through the tunnel to get out at the excavation camp, buy all the gear for your pawn, resummon your pawn and equip it, rest, forfeit pawn again, done. Enjoy your meta pawn with BiS gear at level 1-10. I'm sure it's not going to suck all the fun out of the game for the poor person who hires it on an already way too easy game.

Oh boy lets break down this nonsense you tried making up.

"There's thousands of other helpful pawns at low level." - When did I say low level...in fact I listed the level. Is that low level? You say low level with zero context.

Oh I just need to stop there since the rest of the crap you decided to arm chair psychiatrist me with all hinges on that statement that you continued to build off of with each silly statement and claim.

Leave that ♥♥♥♥ to the professionals ok? Also you are ♥♥♥♥ at it.

[louveteau01]

Originally posted by lumina:

I'm assuming two things here. Far fewer players the higher level you get, and likely keeping more stable teams for longer and not switching pawns as fast as when you are low level.

But if you have a good sized friends list with people who don't buy games as soon as they come out, I figure late game pawns will be used there. I have a few on my friends list with this game on their wish list. Of course, that's also assuming they want a high level pawn when they do play...

That also true, i'm swap after at least 20 day most of the time, and yes frien list help too =)

[Little Strawberry]

Originally posted by Cinnamon Toast King:

Oh boy lets break down this nonsense you tried making up.

"There's thousands of other helpful pawns at low level." - When did I say low level...in fact I listed the level. Is that low level? You say low level with zero context.

Oh I just need to stop there since the rest of the crap you decided to arm chair psychiatrist me with all hinges on that statement that you continued to build off of with each silly statement and claim.

Leave that ♥♥♥♥ to the professionals ok? Also you are ♥♥♥♥ at it.

Quit being rude, it's simple economics. People have already explained it to you before. Low level pawns get hired way more because there are way more people in the beginning of the game than in the endgame, which is always going to be true. Therefore my question was completely valid, asking whenever you really just want to help people (in which case you can't do anything, but play the game yourself in order to keep the pawn at the top of the pool) or if you do want to be greedy and substantially your hires by all means - for which I've written out an entire detailed guide right in that post for you to follow.

[Cinnamon Toast King]

Originally posted by Little Strawberry:

Originally posted by Cinnamon Toast King:

Oh boy lets break down this nonsense you tried making up.

"There's thousands of other helpful pawns at low level." - When did I say low level...in fact I listed the level. Is that low level? You say low level with zero context.

Oh I just need to stop there since the rest of the crap you decided to arm chair psychiatrist me with all hinges on that statement that you continued to build off of with each silly statement and claim.

Leave that ♥♥♥♥ to the professionals ok? Also you are ♥♥♥♥ at it.

Quit being rude, it's simple economics. People have already explained it to you before. Low level pawns get hired way more because there are way more people in the beginning of the game than in the endgame, which is always going to be true. Therefore my question was completely valid, asking whenever you really just want to help people (in which case you can't do anything, but play the game yourself in order to keep the pawn at the top of the pool) or if you simply do want to be greedy and substantially your hires by all means. For which I've written out an entire detailed guide right in that post for you to follow.

"Don't quite your day job buddy"

[MrSoul]

Originally posted by Cinnamon Toast King:

Originally posted by Little Strawberry:

It doesn't bother me, but I want to understand the mentality behind it.

There's thousands of other helpful pawns at low level. It doesn't sound very altruistic if you are bothered by having to compete with those in order to help others. To explain; in many ways, you would displace other pawns in the pool, just so it can be you that "helped" them instead of the vastly many more people, where as people on your level would in theory not get to access your pawn in their small pawn pool, which in turn means your intentions can't be altruistic, but rather self serving. It is illogical and paradoxical if you would argue that you're just altruistic. I'd rather have someone just be honest and say that it feeds their endless greed or narcissism when they see their pawn getting hired while others do not. There's also the whole idea of beginners having no idea what "meta" is and what isn't, so you'll more likely ruin their game, just like it always happens when you start a new game and your friends give you all the best gear.

Anyway, if you're so set on it: start a new game. It takes 2 minutes to learn the meta skills and augments for the respective vocation. Or 30 minutes if you also want the best gear until the true ending. You start the game as a thief, make tarred arrows on the way to the outpost after the griffin in the prologue dies, then trade the tarred arrows for rings of endeavor with pawns, then go take shadow cloak, brine your pawn, go through the waterfall cave which skips the escort quest, get thrown into prison in vernworth, go activate the portcrystal, run to the fog area with the portcrystal or do the sphinx, then smuggle yourself across the border in checkpoint rest town, get out of the cart and get thrown into prison to end up instantly in the second main city, put down the portcrystal and run all the way south, then through the tunnel to get out at the excavation camp, buy all the gear for your pawn, resummon your pawn and equip it, rest, forfeit pawn again, done. Enjoy your meta pawn with BiS gear at level 1-10. I'm sure it's not going to suck all the fun out of the game for the poor person who hires it on an already way too easy game.

Oh boy lets break down this nonsense you tried making up.

"There's thousands of other helpful pawns at low level." - When did I say low level...in fact I listed the level. Is that low level? You say low level with zero context.

Oh I just need to stop there since the rest of the crap you decided to arm chair psychiatrist me with all hinges on that statement that you continued to build off of with each silly statement and claim.

Leave that ♥♥♥♥ to the professionals ok? Also you are ♥♥♥♥ at it.

My fav part is how you tried to be nice about it and just defuse, then they came swinging back in even harder.

Anyways. If anything like first game or summons in DS, should mostly be dependent on when player base starts drop off as another user said. Assuming bulk of players are in your pack (and I think that’s safe to say, cos if are enjoying this game prob all at about same relative level moving forward), your pawns level shouldn’t impact their viability for recruitment very much, or again, it didnt with first game.

[louveteau01]

Originally posted by Little Strawberry:

Originally posted by Cinnamon Toast King:

I like to help players in games where I can and making a pawn that's got for all purposes a "perfect build" and knowing how useful they are is nice.

Yeah I enjoy the reward of knowing my pawn is useful, if that bothers you, you didn't have to say anything.

It doesn't bother me, but I want to understand the mentality behind it.

There's thousands of other helpful pawns at low level. It doesn't sound very altruistic if you are bothered by having to compete with those in order to help others. To explain; in many ways, you would displace other pawns in the pool, just so it can be you that "helped" them instead of the vastly many more people, where as people on your level would in theory not get to access your pawn in their small pawn pool, which in turn means your intentions can't be altruistic, but rather self serving. It is illogical and paradoxical if you would argue that you're just altruistic. I'd rather have someone just be honest and say that it feeds their endless greed or narcissism when they see their pawn getting hired while others do not. There's also the whole idea of beginners having no idea what "meta" is and what isn't, so you'll more likely ruin their game, just like it always happens when you start a new game and your friends give you all the best gear.

Anyway, if you're so set on it: start a new game. It takes 2 minutes to learn the meta skills and augments for the respective vocation. Or 30 minutes if you also want the best gear until the true ending. You start the game as a thief, make tarred arrows on the way to the outpost after the griffin in the prologue dies, then trade the tarred arrows for rings of endeavor with pawns, then go take shadow cloak, brine your pawn, go through the waterfall cave which skips the escort quest, get thrown into prison in vernworth, go activate the portcrystal, run to the fog area with the portcrystal or do the sphinx, then smuggle yourself across the border in checkpoint rest town, get out of the cart and get thrown into prison to end up instantly in the second main city, put down the portcrystal and run all the way south, then through the tunnel to get out at the excavation camp, buy all the gear for your pawn, resummon your pawn and equip it, rest, forfeit pawn again, done. Enjoy your meta pawn with BiS gear at level 1-10. Then set your moniker to SphinxParent and your pawn quest to trade 1x tarred arrow for one of your rings of endeavor you've previously gotten from pawn trading and you're done. I'm sure it's not going to suck all the fun out of the game for the poor person who hires it on an already way too easy game.

Honestly just shut up, you sound like the twittos that come asking if they will get "validation" for whatver they want people to call them in a SP video game or the one that complain that they arent enough black pawn, and the fact that you know all the way to cheese the game is a huge red flag about you.
Leave people play as they want damn i hate those police of thinking crowd.

[Cinnamon Toast King]

Thanks for a lot of the helpful info. I just keep playing and not worry about it, it seems.

[Migromul]

Pawns will get hired eventually. I fthey aren't hired by other peapole, they will get hired by campcom. (E. G. they get hired by the game itself.) So even offline-pawns can get hired.

[Cinnamon Toast King]

Originally posted by Migromul:

Pawns will get hired eventually. I fthey aren't hired by other peapole, they will get hired by campcom. (E. G. they get hired by the game itself.) So even offline-pawns can get hired.

Yeah, but I would prefer not to have a system like that and know my pawn is being useful to others

[Little Strawberry]

Originally posted by louveteau01:

Honestly just shut up, you sound like the twittos that come asking if they will get "validation" for whatver they want people to call them in a SP video game or the one that complain that they arent enough black pawn, and the fact that you know all the way to cheese the game is a huge red flag about you.
Leave people play as they want damn i hate those police of thinking crowd.

Why are you suddenly bringing up that you dislike black people? What does that have to do with anything? Nobody cares about your anti-woke agenda and I don't understand why everyone is suddenly so emotionally involved when I have just laid out the objective truth.

You can be angry about the solution I gave to OP for all you want, it doesn't change that I'm right. Now whenever OP decides to start a new game or to keep playing as is, that's up to him, but I don't see why this would ruffle some bystanders feathers to the point where they're virtue signalling their political agenda towards me. I seriously have no clue how you would get this mad at me laying out the choices and a guide for OP.

[Cinnamon Toast King]

Originally posted by Little Strawberry:

Originally posted by louveteau01:

Honestly just shut up, you sound like the twittos that come asking if they will get "validation" for whatver they want people to call them in a SP video game or the one that complain that they arent enough black pawn, and the fact that you know all the way to cheese the game is a huge red flag about you.
Leave people play as they want damn i hate those police of thinking crowd.

Why are you suddenly bringing up that you dislike black people? What does that have to do with anything? Nobody cares about your anti-woke agenda and I don't understand why everyone is suddenly so emotionally involved when I have just laid out the objective truth.

You can be angry about the solution I gave to OP for all you want, it doesn't change that I'm right. Now whenever OP decides to start a new game or to keep playing as is, that's up to him, but I don't see why this would ruffle some bystanders feathers to the point where they're virtue signalling their political agenda towards me. I seriously have no clue how you would get this mad at me laying out the choices and a guide for OP.

Dude leave, you brought up ghosts to fight and you dug your hole. Lay in it and go to sleep.