Dragon's Dogma: Dark Arisen (DD:DA) > Dragon's Dogma (DD) > Dragon's dogma 2 (DD2)

[Arrogath]

Hi !

I like DD2 but let's be honest DD and DD:DA were better (I have 1K5-2k hours on DD/DD:DA if i count all platform (PS3-PC)). I've almost 200hours on DD2 and i'm like "Do i return on DD:DA?". I know we don't have the DLC but on DD we got the everfall that we can farm and the UR dragon. On DD2 we only got the unmoored world and it's limited to 4 days and it's not even close to the everfall. The map is bigger yes but bigger don't mean fun, i mean 1 or 2 cave are special the other one are bad.? All enemies exepted the golem / minotor (who's 2x better than the DD:DA in my opinion) are downgrade. Special weapon like Iraklis (my beloved) are legit non-present in the game and i do think it's a huge mistake to have removed some UNIQUE weapon from the previous games. We don't got any easter-egg legit (or they're very small, maybe i'm blind?). I'm open to discuss, i still like DD2 but i do think the game is legit a reboot and not a second game.

(PS: I'm not the best English speaker so i hope it's understandable!)

[Ryan Fenton]

Yeah - I think for folks that played the first game, that's generally true.

The default graphics are better in places - but overall, DD1 was and remains more fun, and better designed. Some of the new monsters aren't bad either - but it doesn't make up for what's lost.

DD1 had better replay value (hard mode,etc), better exploration and things to explore, better augments (by far), better skills, better overall classes, better DLC (free on Steam at least), better price, better endgame, better story.

I've not seen real disagreement for that with any substance. Just folks happy with what remains of the formula in 2. I just find having a weaker game as a sequel to be a waste.

[Vinnolo]

DD1 was more complete but DD2 is a better base for improvements, but since they said there were no plans for more vocations, it will prob stay as a rough diamond

[Yu Ryujin]

Originally posted by Arrogath:

Hi !

I like DD2 but let's be honest DD and DD:DA were better (I have 1K5-2k hours on DD/DD:DA if i count all platform (PS3-PC)). I've almost 200hours on DD2 and i'm like "Do i return on DD:DA?". I know we don't have the DLC but on DD we got the everfall that we can farm and the UR dragon. On DD2 we only got the unmoored world and it's limited to 4 days and it's not even close to the everfall. The map is bigger yes but bigger don't mean fun, i mean 1 or 2 cave are special the other one are bad.? All enemies exepted the golem / minotor (who's 2x better than the DD:DA in my opinion) are downgrade. Special weapon like Iraklis (my beloved) are legit non-present in the game and i do think it's a huge mistake to have removed some UNIQUE weapon from the previous games. We don't got any easter-egg legit (or they're very small, maybe i'm blind?). I'm open to discuss, i still like DD2 but i do think the game is legit a reboot and not a second game.

(PS: I'm not the best English speaker so i hope it's understandable!) :dragonemblem:

I mean it depends a lot dude, but for me rn its definitely

DDAA>DD2>DD1.

DD1 was extremely forgetable on its first version.

DD2 has a huge improvement on a lot of things, but lack others. Its also a different type of ARPG, it does things diff than DD1-


I have seen a lot of disagreement, and a lot of people coming from the last version of DD, especially the one from pc, which is normal, we are in steam.

[Grr. [SG CMD] Majah Lazah]

Originally posted by Arrogath:

Hi !

I like DD2 but let's be honest DD and DD:DA were better (I have 1K5-2k hours on DD/DD:DA if i count all platform (PS3-PC)). I've almost 200hours on DD2 and i'm like "Do i return on DD:DA?". I know we don't have the DLC but on DD we got the everfall that we can farm and the UR dragon. On DD2 we only got the unmoored world and it's limited to 4 days and it's not even close to the everfall. The map is bigger yes but bigger don't mean fun, i mean 1 or 2 cave are special the other one are bad.? All enemies exepted the golem / minotor (who's 2x better than the DD:DA in my opinion) are downgrade. Special weapon like Iraklis (my beloved) are legit non-present in the game and i do think it's a huge mistake to have removed some UNIQUE weapon from the previous games. We don't got any easter-egg legit (or they're very small, maybe i'm blind?). I'm open to discuss, i still like DD2 but i do think the game is legit a reboot and not a second game.

(PS: I'm not the best English speaker so i hope it's understandable!)

let's be honest your opinion is wrong.

[Capcheeks]

DD2 is best for me but mostly due to the sum of all its parts. I think the vocations are better fleshed out and more fun to play with, Warfarer is a great addition, the story is entertaining and just the right length, the quests are mostly fun too.

That said, they really, REALLY dropped the ball on the endgame portion. Unmoored world is barely even in the same ballpark as DD1's endgame world and Everfall. The fight with Grigori was also much better in DD1, it felt like an actual endgame boss with multiple phases. Bitterblack Isle was icing on a tremendous cake too.

But in spite of all of that, the moment-to-moment gameplay in DD2 is still more enjoyable for me compared to DD1.

[Viconia DeVir]

Considering the entire reason why this series even reached cult status and why it even had a following was because of Dark Arisen, I'm not sure why people keep bringing up base Dragon's Dogma 1.

[Arrogath]

Originally posted by Yu Ryujin:

Originally posted by Arrogath:

Hi !

I like DD2 but let's be honest DD and DD:DA were better (I have 1K5-2k hours on DD/DD:DA if i count all platform (PS3-PC)). I've almost 200hours on DD2 and i'm like "Do i return on DD:DA?". I know we don't have the DLC but on DD we got the everfall that we can farm and the UR dragon. On DD2 we only got the unmoored world and it's limited to 4 days and it's not even close to the everfall. The map is bigger yes but bigger don't mean fun, i mean 1 or 2 cave are special the other one are bad.? All enemies exepted the golem / minotor (who's 2x better than the DD:DA in my opinion) are downgrade. Special weapon like Iraklis (my beloved) are legit non-present in the game and i do think it's a huge mistake to have removed some UNIQUE weapon from the previous games. We don't got any easter-egg legit (or they're very small, maybe i'm blind?). I'm open to discuss, i still like DD2 but i do think the game is legit a reboot and not a second game.

(PS: I'm not the best English speaker so i hope it's understandable!)

I mean it depends a lot dude, but for me rn its definitely

DDAA>DD2>DD1.

DD1 was extremely forgetable on its first version.

DD2 has a huge improvement on a lot of things, but lack others. Its also a different type of ARPG, it does things diff than DD1-


I have seen a lot of disagreement, and a lot of people coming from the last version of DD, especially the one from pc, which is normal, we are in steam.

I disagree, i do think DD at release was better than DD2 at release, yes DD was a bit less fun without the DLC but we got a lot to do plus the everfall who were infinit if you don't want to finish it. Like pawn inclination / knowledge who are very bad on DD2 or non-existant. DD on release was poorly optimized if i remember correctly and the game was very nich i mean.

[Yu Ryujin]

Originally posted by Viconia DeVir:

Considering the entire reason why this series even reached cult status and why it even had a following was because of Dark Arisen, I'm not sure why people keep bringing up base Dragon's Dogma 1.

Because DDDA is a full pack of a game that has a previous base, While DD2 is just base.

compairing DD2 with DDDA is a bit unfair, although... The price in my opinion would actually make reason if it the content of dd2 were similar to ddda.

70 for a game on pc

[minisith]

Originally posted by Viconia DeVir:

Considering the entire reason why this series even reached cult status and why it even had a following was because of Dark Arisen, I'm not sure why people keep bringing up base Dragon's Dogma 1.

Because DA is nothing without DD. DD was cult status, but not popular. DA just gave us more while the company refused to release DDO outside of Japan.

[Yu Ryujin]

Originally posted by Arrogath:

Originally posted by Yu Ryujin:

I mean it depends a lot dude, but for me rn its definitely

DDAA>DD2>DD1.

DD1 was extremely forgetable on its first version.

DD2 has a huge improvement on a lot of things, but lack others. Its also a different type of ARPG, it does things diff than DD1-


I have seen a lot of disagreement, and a lot of people coming from the last version of DD, especially the one from pc, which is normal, we are in steam.

I disagree, i do think DD at release was better than DD2 at release, yes DD was a bit less fun without the DLC but we got a lot to do plus the everfall who were infinit if you don't want to finish it. Like pawn inclination / knowledge who are very bad on DD2 or non-existant. DD on release was poorly optimized if i remember correctly and the game was very nich i mean.

Pawns in Dd2 are EXTREMELY better overall, the pawn system is actually quite rich and depends a lot on the player doings, and choices.

Me and my friends have always something new to tell about our pawns, its actually quite amazing.

[Arrogath]

Originally posted by Yu Ryujin:

Originally posted by Viconia DeVir:

Considering the entire reason why this series even reached cult status and why it even had a following was because of Dark Arisen, I'm not sure why people keep bringing up base Dragon's Dogma 1.

Because DDDA is a full pack of a game that has a previous base, While DD2 is just base.

compairing DD2 with DDDA is a bit unfair, although... The price in my opinion would actually make reason if it the content of dd2 were similar to ddda.

70 for a game on pc

If we only talk about base DD, i do still think the everfall is better than the unmoored world

[Yu Ryujin]

Originally posted by Arrogath:

Originally posted by Yu Ryujin:

Because DDDA is a full pack of a game that has a previous base, While DD2 is just base.

compairing DD2 with DDDA is a bit unfair, although... The price in my opinion would actually make reason if it the content of dd2 were similar to ddda.

70 for a game on pc

If we only talk about base DD, i do still think the everfall is better than the unmoored world

I didnt reach that part im just exploring, but you are completely true on that one. Endgame and ng+ in dd2 sounds pretty bad

[SadPlatty©]

Originally posted by Viconia DeVir:

Considering the entire reason why this series even reached cult status and why it even had a following was because of Dark Arisen, I'm not sure why people keep bringing up base Dragon's Dogma 1.

I sold 3 friends on the base game back on PS3, and so we got to experience DA together. Back then, all you needed to say was "Dude - there is this sick-ass RPG that lets you climb up a Cyclops and stab him in the eye!".

Game just wasn't for everybody.

[Arrogath]

Originally posted by Vinnolo:

DD1 was more complete but DD2 is a better base for improvements, but since they said there were no plans for more vocations, it will prob stay as a rough diamond

Oh they said that? That's a bit scary for the future of the game tbh

[Arrogath]

Originally posted by Grr. SG CMD Majah Lazah:

Originally posted by Arrogath:

Hi !

I like DD2 but let's be honest DD and DD:DA were better (I have 1K5-2k hours on DD/DD:DA if i count all platform (PS3-PC)). I've almost 200hours on DD2 and i'm like "Do i return on DD:DA?". I know we don't have the DLC but on DD we got the everfall that we can farm and the UR dragon. On DD2 we only got the unmoored world and it's limited to 4 days and it's not even close to the everfall. The map is bigger yes but bigger don't mean fun, i mean 1 or 2 cave are special the other one are bad.? All enemies exepted the golem / minotor (who's 2x better than the DD:DA in my opinion) are downgrade. Special weapon like Iraklis (my beloved) are legit non-present in the game and i do think it's a huge mistake to have removed some UNIQUE weapon from the previous games. We don't got any easter-egg legit (or they're very small, maybe i'm blind?). I'm open to discuss, i still like DD2 but i do think the game is legit a reboot and not a second game.

(PS: I'm not the best English speaker so i hope it's understandable!)

let's be honest your opinion is wrong.

Thanks you opened my eyes after you said that