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back then it was more about violence in video games than anything and violence in media. the focus shifted when certain people came into power. thats all you're seeing now.
I continually asked you to answer the same direct question, which you avoided to answer 3 times. Not the same thing.
Instead you post long unrelated rants because apparently you're so pilled, you just can't help yourself from posting off topic radical rightwing political propaganda on the Dragon's Dogma 2 forums.
i can't prove a negative but maybe you can prove that anyone even used the word woke outside of its intended use back then.
How many western-made games are written in the same way that "localized" games are written? You think the Baldurs Gate series would've been better if the writing was similar to the "localization" of non-western games?
The entire "localization" industry is made up of racist culture vultures that don't know how to make their own media. So they pick apart non-western media and "localize" it.
I'm old and i've been lambasting them since the overtly racist era of "Robotech", "Voltron", "Speed Racer", "Saber Rider", etc. Theres been some progress since those days, but the fight is far from over. Racist culture vultures are a lot more subtle about it these days. Many of them have now become advisors to non-western companies, so these companies end up making "Saber Rider" from the get go.
I was already annoyed at all the inclusiveness within DD2 which made NO SENSE, because if we are going to demand more ethnicity, then why in the world are their no Asians within the main NPCs? Oh yeah, thought so, because that's not what is required to be termed "inclusion."
I'm very sick and tired of all of the Activists trash that are demanding all this crap, and to be honest, they are the minority too, but the loudest and most annoying bunch in the crowd.
Street Fighter 6 is just another example of the character Marissa, she's a female and when Capcom asked these Woke idiots what was needed in Street Fighter 6 they said "A strong and powerful woman."
So to them, Chun-Li wasn't a strong and powerful woman? Cammy? Rose? Sakura? Karin? Mika? Ibuki? Elena? None of them were strong and powerful females? Rose is one of the most powerful characters in the SF world, which includes all of the males lore wise since she's the light half of M. Bison.
Chun-Li is is arguably only surpassed by Rose, but she stands as one of the A-Tier characters. So are they not powerful female characters?
No, because what these woke people meant by a "Strong and powerful woman" was a female who had a physique like a Male, not feminine like what we have with Chun-Li or the rest of the other female cast on the list (it's funny since many of the females are incredibly toned, with abs, akin to actual real life females who excercise etc,), but they wanted a beefy, masculine female.
Which is exactly why we got Marissa, a female with a physical body more akin to Zangief, and is in someways, bigger than Gief. Marissa when compared muscle mass wise, is bigger than basically all of the males within the current SF6 roster, with the exception of only Zangief.
Bigger than Ryu, bigger than Ken, bigger than Guile, bigger than Blanka, E. Honda, Luke, etc, etc.
Don't get me wrong, from a gameplay standpoint, she's fun, however from a physical representation, it was 100% obvious what they Woke mob wanted within the world of Street Fighter 6...and let's not even talk about the announcer in the HUB, or the statement of gender in SF6 with (Masculine, Feminine), so it's obvious that they infiltrated already.
Just remember, that ALL of the Western Movies, games, entertainment products that have gone full blown into this political ideology have bombed.
Just look to Disney as a perfect example of going woke and stating that they are doing this because it is a fight between "Good and Evil" within their eyes.
They are now achieving record breaking losses, within their movies, streaming, and the stocks have all plummeted. Look to other non-Disney controlled franchises that used to thrive on just good storytelling and characters, but have now been taken over by activists, Star Trek which is failing like never before.
How about the abomination that is The Rings of Power with the people who are running it saying the words "Like Omgosh!" "Like Totally!" more than anything else while also stating "Tolkien didn't do it right, so we're going to make it right."
They have completely desecrated Tolkiens works, which was built upon his Christian foundation as a Catholic, his life's work as a Linguists, and his real-life experiences as a War Veteran of WW1.
What about the TLOU2 which was a clear removal of the male father figure within the story, to make way for the daughter, while sporting a "masculine" female to do the job, and of course, we have to keep continue having same sex attractions.
Everyone of the series I stated above all got completely buried, by Activists pushing an agenda.
All of this, while things that just stuck to good storytelling, awesome characters that were not made for agenda purposes, continue to thrive.
Godzilla Minus One is an excellent example of having a compelling story, no political agendas, just great characters with real reasons that could be relatable, and on a 12 million dollar budget that made over 12x that in the theaters.
Capcom has been my favorite gaming IP, I was there back as a kid when Street Fighter II hit the world in 1991, and took not just the gaming world, but the entire Entertainment world by storm.
I am a huge SF fan, and the Poster-Boy of SF as well as Capcom, Ryu, still remains to this day, my #1 favorite video game character of all time.
However, if they continue going down this rabbit hole...BYE BYE CAPCOM and watch your IP's plummet. If you follow and listen to the whims of the Activists, you will Fail, Period.
I'm glad you're finally starting to show your real self, mask off
We can have a real conversation once you drop the fakeness
You claim any conventionally attractive female protagonist 'must' be a 'thirst-trap' because a pretty female character can only exist for that purpose?
Are you for real?
Conventionally attractive women don't exist in reality to you?
Should they not be 'represented' and have heroines to follow in video games?
Should Lesbians have no attractive female characters to find attractive?
Should Trans gamers not have the right to play as attractive female characters?
That doesn't sound so inclusive of you after all
This thread was to discuss the changes to Capcom's games moving forward, as the localisation teams plan on changing the Japanese source of games via localisation to ensure that the ESG driven western political ideology takes over all of its games, not just the English 'version' of the game itself
A fake diversity where nothing is diverse, as everything has to tick the exact same check-boxes every time
No Japanese game with Japanese visions, just California politics running through all the fantasy landscapes like Forspoken and Saints Row Reboot before it
I'd rather the developer's vision be respected as it's my money to buy their games, i don't want 3rd parties putting their graffiti over developer's art and telling me they have 'improved' it
Because that's what ideological localisation is
Graffiti over Art
I could not agree more. I was frustrated that in Dragon's Dogma 2, you could make an overweight, even a physically "buffed & masculine" looking woman body frame wise...but you couldn't make a feminine, hour glass woman with a sexy figure...because apparently that's not allowed.
Don't get me wrong, you can make attractive, beautiful faces, however the inability to make more wider hips, a nicer pair of buns with a more attractive feminine figure without making them overweight was such a stupid decision...however I now realize why.
When these Japanese companies fully "acclimate" themselves to their pattern of business for the sake of these activists, all of their IP's will fail, just like everything else in the Western world that has followed.
Comicbooks are failing at this moment because they followed woke ideologies, and Manga is thriving and killing comic books because at this point, they have not done so, however as soon as they go this route, watch their revenue take a plunge too.
Just remember, that even anime, the English dubs are doing this, and have been called out for changing translations for the sake of "Modern Audiences" which even triggered Japanese companies who owned these anime franchises into calling these people who were doing this in California (Of course it's California, go figure!) to stop or they will block all of their IP's from being dubbed.
Any company that doesn't cater to these literal California/NY inclusiveness garbage will prosper, and it's been shown, time and time again, that the 90%+ of the Western World along with the rest of the world, do NOT want this crap crammed down their throats.
It's so bad now, that even these Activists had me rooting for the CCP at one point (Chinese Communist Party, and I'm Anti-Communists) because they would NOT allow this nonsense form of entertainment pushing in their country...which is about the ONLY thing I will support them on.
When was I fake? Did I ever say I don't like attractive women? When did I say they don't deserve a spot in video games? The only fake one here is you, who use every excuse to squeeze your political agenda into inappropriate places. That I do have something against. You're the one who can't tolerate inclusiveness and "uglified women" existing in video games.
Did I ever say that I have something against thirst-traps? Did I ever call out to ban or cancel games with sexualized content? I'm calling a spade a spade, and a thirst-trap a thirst-trap, and you just can't handle it.
Denying that the MC of Stellar Blade isn't intentionally made to be attractive to sell games is to be a disingenuous person with fake opinions.
Your bigotry just got the better of you again. Now, get back to your little pretend culture war. Surely some day, you will eradicate all the filthy variety and tolerance from videogames. Just a little more propaganda spam on the steam forums should do the job.
What's wrong with selling games? I thought you were all about market data points and reaching out to audiences to make profits?
Seems Shift Up, the Developers of Stellar Blade have decided to take the path of a real female protagonist to increase their sales.
Also if you admit that a conventionally attractive female increases sales, why do you call them a 'thirst-trap'?
Shouldn't you be happy for the company with the experts and professionals to make that choice?
You seemingly contradict yourself because it seems you're so upset that a female character hasn't been butchered and uglified in the name of ... what exactly? Patriarchy? Male Gaze? Realistic 'beauty' standards?
It's hatred of women that drives the need to disfigure them
Their MO-CAP Models are all conventionally attractive
It takes hours of EFFORT to degrade their physical appearance down to what they are left as
Meanwhile the Male models are left alone, 100% captured to their likeness
What else would you call it but hatred towards women when female characters have their faces disfigured on purpose purely for being female, but male characters are left alone??
Examples from Mass Effect Andromeda:
https://imgur.com/a/mWYgXqa
Examples from Horizon Forbidden West:
https://boundingintocomics.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/06/2021.06.02-06.03-boundingintocomics-60b71f2d69c7f.png
Since you don't stop lying long enough to read what is said, feel free to see the below examples, not sure if they count as 'diverse' for you since it wasn't forced and just made sense to have them as the natural characters. Might not fit your agenda:
'They keep trying to paint people who are against censorship/localisation/ESG as being phobes/ist's etc instead of discussing the topics at hand
No one had issue with Lucy Lawless playing Xena the Warrior Princess - 1995 (Strong female lead)
No one had issue with Sigourney Weaver playing Ellen Ripley in Alien 1 and Aliens 2 - 1979 / 1986 (Strong female lead, the movie can also be summed up as '2 mothers fight each other for the sake of their children's future's)
No one had issue with Wesley Snipes playing Blade - 1998 (Black Action Superhero lead)
No one had issue with Ian McKellen playing Gandalf in The Lord of The Rings - 2001-2003 (Openly Gay Man as Lead Role of Major Film Series)
Video Games / Anime / Manga / Movies / Comics were always about fantasy and escapism and were naturally an 'inclusive' place to be by default. It wasn't popular and you were definitely not considered popular if you admitted to liking them at the time, but it was a fantastic place to be and let your imagination go wild
No-one cared 'what' you were, as everyone was focused on 'who' you are in the fantasy IP setting and imagination is unlimited'
TL:DR: Video games are based on fantasy. Fantasy was always 'inclusive' and 'diverse' and 'everyone being treated equally'. New age racists (people who believe you can't be racist towards white people, for made up reasons, for example) need to return to twitter and tumblr and leave video games alone from their political ideology.
Like take comic books for example. I loved reading Harley Quinn books, and I loved reading Spawn books. I had no issues identifying with Harley when reading her books, and I had no issues identifying with Al Simmons (Spawn) when reading his books. This is despite Harley being a white woman and Spawn being a black man.
White, Black, Male, Female, it didn't matter. All that mattered was that they were well-made and interesting characters.