Dragon's Dogma 2

Dragon's Dogma 2

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Draeka3 Feb 18, 2024 @ 2:41pm
Requirements
I'm not sure about how I should feel about the requirements...

I'm using a 1080p screen, nothing huge. Do you think I run it at max settings (without Ray tracing though) and consistent framerate (60 possibly) ?

I am really concerned about performance since nearly all games I played using denuvo had significant performance issues but not when tried another way (just to compare, I don't like piracy but am curious).

I'm quite hyped about this game but if it's another one being an inferior version if bought than pirated, I'd rather skip it entirely.

I have to start re-evaluate my priotities because of the timing for 3 next releases is very short and might not be possible. I'm not broke but I can't exactly put 75€+55€+ UNDEFINED DLC PRICE + 35€ within 3-4 weeks at most.

Edit :
My specs are publicly available on my profile
Last edited by Draeka3; Feb 18, 2024 @ 5:23pm
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Shinkiro Feb 18, 2024 @ 3:53pm 
1) We have no performance references or benchmarks to answer you
2) You didn't even bother to give your specs so how would we ever know?
3) You're running 1080p, not exactly a power demanding resolution. If you're gonna struggle with 1080p 60fps in any game its time for an upgrade tbh. Or compromise on your expectations with your insufficient hardware
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[-iD-] Feb 18, 2024 @ 3:56pm 
his specs are on his profile and no he probably wont runt this game with RT and 60 fps.
H-Foundry PIXIV Feb 18, 2024 @ 4:25pm 
An honest demo (i.e. the drm doesn't affect performance in the final product) would actually good for them to lessen the amount of Steam refunds and avoid too many people complaining.

They'd rather have people not buy it who have barely minimum specs, than buy it anyway and refund + an avalanche of moans and groans hhh.
d Feb 18, 2024 @ 5:05pm 
Originally posted by Draeka3:
I'm not sure about how I should feel about the requirements...
You should be afraid. DD2 has particularly steep requirements even in this era of horribly optimized games and requirement inflation.
Originally posted by Draeka3:
I'm using a 1080p screen, nothing huge. Do you think I run it at max settings (without Ray tracing though) and consistent framerate (60 possibly) ?
Considering how your GPU is at best 40% better than the 1070, which they estimate will have 30FPS with drops, I doubt it. You're gonna have to upscale from 960x540p with DLSS.
Draeka3 Feb 18, 2024 @ 5:44pm 
Originally posted by Shinkiro:
1) We have no performance references or benchmarks to answer you
2) You didn't even bother to give your specs so how would we ever know?
3) You're running 1080p, not exactly a power demanding resolution. If you're gonna struggle with 1080p 60fps in any game its time for an upgrade tbh. Or compromise on your expectations with your insufficient hardware

My bad, I forgot to mention that they are on my profile.

I have no trouble most of the times.
The only times I do is down to :
_ Old game performing poorly on current windows version.
_ Poorly optimized games.
_ In one word : Denuvo. This has affected multiple games i have tested without it (don't ask why). No problem without while maxed or close to it, significant performance drops with (even min settings with upscaling sometimes).

Originally posted by -iD-:
his specs are on his profile and no he probably wont runt this game with RT and 60 fps.

I'm not counting on getting 60fps maxed with it, I wonder if without raytracing I have a shot.



Originally posted by 'ogue:
Originally posted by Draeka3:
I'm not sure about how I should feel about the requirements...
You should be afraid. DD2 has particularly steep requirements even in this era of horribly optimized games and requirement inflation.
Originally posted by Draeka3:
I'm using a 1080p screen, nothing huge. Do you think I run it at max settings (without Ray tracing though) and consistent framerate (60 possibly) ?
Considering how your GPU is at best 40% better than the 1070, which they estimate will have 30FPS with drops, I doubt it. You're gonna have to upscale from 960x540p with DLSS.

I am very f***ing concerned because of the drm and how good it looks.

I'm not an idiot nor am I very familiar at visualizing what different gc, mb, processor, ram... change on a per-game basis.

I know what's what but sometimes I think I'm better off asking than taking risks.

That much upscaling might be a problem for me.

I heard rumors about a demo but nothing official so I'm not counting on it.

If there is I hope whatever drm there is will be there so that I can see if I should get it or not.

Like PIXIV said (#3) a demo would avoid a potential avalanche of negative reviews. It's a win-win situation for both players and the devs/publisher.

I wish this game success if it is as good as it seems but if it's not performance-wise, I won't go further than a few minutes again and again until it gets better or limit time for refund is close. In the event of that, I couldn't give it a positive review unless below advertised specs.
Last edited by Draeka3; Feb 18, 2024 @ 5:47pm
Sel Und Irae Feb 18, 2024 @ 8:41pm 
I'd say you could run it on high but with shadow, raytracing & water details toned down or deactivated.

Those three take A LOT of performance.
Last edited by Sel Und Irae; Feb 18, 2024 @ 8:42pm
Sad but Packin' Feb 18, 2024 @ 8:50pm 
I did a quick Google search, according to wich, the 3060 is superior to the PS5's GPU. The State of Play trailer shows 4k footage captured on a PS5 at an average of 45 FPS during action scenes. So even if the game is better optimized for consoles, at 1080p you should be alright. The only problem is that it seems that there are BIG frame drops when the big spells get unleashed, so, might have to reduce special effects quality.
I'm cucked Feb 18, 2024 @ 8:52pm 
nobody knows.
d Feb 18, 2024 @ 8:53pm 
Originally posted by THE WIND IS PUSHING MEEE:
nobody knows.
:lunar2019laughingpig:
Shinkiro Feb 19, 2024 @ 3:21am 
Originally posted by -iD-:
his specs are on his profile and no he probably wont runt this game with RT and 60 fps.
Tbf im not going snooping on people's profiles to find out any relevant info :P

Originally posted by Draeka3:
I'm not counting on getting 60fps maxed with it, I wonder if without raytracing I have a shot.
A RTX3060 isnt a terrible card. At 1080p you'll be more than fine hitting 60fps. Can't give specifics naturally since we have no data to go on. Definitely no RT, you can probably get away with high textures and then reducing the intensive but less obvious settings like shadows, and volumetric fog etc, if you arent getting consistent fps until its at a place you like it. A mix of high/medium settings is probably good to aim for.

Can you run the game? Yes definitely even if you have to compromise slightly for it, but atm we really dont know anything so thats the best anyone can guess.
Last edited by Shinkiro; Feb 19, 2024 @ 5:13am
d Feb 19, 2024 @ 3:32am 
Originally posted by Shinkiro:
Can't give specifics naturally since we have no data to go on.
Originally posted by Shinkiro:
we really dont know anything so thats the best anyone can guess.
LOL
Shinkiro Feb 19, 2024 @ 5:40am 
Originally posted by 'ogue:
Originally posted by Shinkiro:
Can't give specifics naturally since we have no data to go on.
Originally posted by Shinkiro:
we really dont know anything so thats the best anyone can guess.
LOL
Okay then. Share with the class your real world benchmarks of the game so we have real reference data instead of your pointless comments. No one actually knows anything until its been externally tested. System requirements are an estimate and guideline nothing more and often overestimated and we also don't know their internal testing criteria so speculating how anything will run is just total guesswork atm until people get the final product in their hands. The most popular mid range GPU is going to handle the game adequately with some adjustments, especially at 1080p..

Or you could post troll comments as if you know anything i guess :steambored:
Last edited by Shinkiro; Feb 19, 2024 @ 5:45am
d Feb 19, 2024 @ 6:17pm 
Originally posted by Shinkiro:
Offical requirements = doesn't count
IGN preview = doesn't count
30FPS target = doesn't count
interlaced resolution on console = doesn't count
Capcoms history of listing CONSERVATIVE requirements = *plugs ears* lalalalalala
How much are you getting paid?
Paraskeet Feb 20, 2024 @ 1:49am 
what are the three next releases you are looking forward to?

why did you choose a 5600g over a 5600 or the x version? 16mb vs 32mb L3
3060 12gb is fine. if dlss is included then you should be able to run it at 1440p using balanced or quality preset.

I would suggest to change your monitor. there are a lot of good deals in the 200-400$ price range. if size doesn't matter you could buy 4k amoled portable screen. it's between 13-15 inches but the picture quality is better than lcd
Draeka3 Feb 21, 2024 @ 2:16pm 
Originally posted by Paraskeet:
what are the three next releases you are looking forward to?

why did you choose a 5600g over a 5600 or the x version? 16mb vs 32mb L3
3060 12gb is fine. if dlss is included then you should be able to run it at 1440p using balanced or quality preset.

I would suggest to change your monitor. there are a lot of good deals in the 200-400$ price range. if size doesn't matter you could buy 4k amoled portable screen. it's between 13-15 inches but the picture quality is better than lcd

I got a pre-built. Best i could get at the time. I'm planning to make it better overtime while keeping up with steam sales, releases on Playstation 4 when there's something to preorder (it's dry this year imo), books, weights and stuff for wrestling (free, not greco-roman).

The ones on the horizon are Horizon Forbidden West, Dragon's Dogma 2, South Pard Snow Day or whatever and also Elden Ring DLC (asap, won't wait 1 day before as usual because i've never been disappointed by From Software).

Still no date but Titan Quest 2 (i have been playing the first since release pretty much).

Given how Baldur's Gate 3 turned out, i regret the EA. That's 60 Euros down the drain for now.

There's better, sure but i really dig the style and curve. I'm thinking about getting a 65" 4k screen. Not sure if some can be over wifi or something as to avoid a >10m HDMI and tiny hole in the wall.

Priorities.

I can use 70 per week. I need those few games before the release and i need to buy (and receive) a powerbank before March 20th because i'll need it before the competition on 21st.

Horizon Forbidden West and Dragon's Dogma 2 150 so that i get potiential badges fast (i first test, if fine badge and THEN, ONLY THEN start and commit) + powerbank (70 bucks).
All that.

No spending next week as i used that extra money to get something i need rather than wait to order next monday (if not tuesday).
That leaves 3 weeks in a row locked in.
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