Dragons Dogma Dark arisen is the first game ! .. And in my OPINION a far better game

[vior wolfkin]

But if you have not played Dark arisen < the first game > , then i think DD2 will make far more sense if you buy the original , play it through BEFORE playing this game ! .,.. A few people say the story for DD2 is rubbish ?? Maybe ? i have not finished it yet so no comment ! . But i was wondering ,,, SHOULD DD2 BE CONSIDERED MORE LIKE A DLC RATHER THAN A Standalone or sequel ? Perhaps it would be better if Capcom sold BOTH games one package ???? I already have the first and love it ! ..?????? Have Capcom missed a trick here ?? cos after buying DD2 i doubt many would then buy the first ? Relaunch the first and sell as a pack and maybe we could have the servers back up for the dragon fight etc ???

[rane]

Selling 3x larger world, with more monsters, better, eworked combat with classes distinctly less awful, better pawn AI... as a bundled DLC? Talk about entitlement.

[gerechterzorn]

useless speculations

[Xeriath]

You are allowed to feel this way and certainly not the only one. I read this often, especially in release month. The problem with older games is that people tend to look back in a romantic way and ignore just all bad things. For sure DD2 has too its weakness but is not so bad as people always say.

DD2 is a full game of its own and certainly Capcom doesn’t need to sell it in a package, of course they can do that but this doesn’t mean that people will play the older one or have fun with it. I certainly would not have fun with DDDA and would never played DD2 if I need to own DDDA to get access to it.

[Senki]

I like the first game more as well but not by much, this one is still good and does some things better even if it also does many things worse.

It's also not written or designed to be a dlc, it wouldn't work as a dlc at all.

[H-Foundry PIXIV]

The fact that such an old game is questionable as a better game to a modern sequel, 11+year gap is already a bad start for DD2 anyway.

The template is already there, the technology has improved, so it shouldn't have been hard to surpass. But too many things can go wrong, like crunch time, Itsuno's 'vision' wanted too much and didn't match budget and time so had to scale back (second half of the game feels unfinished, story elements).

The game is serviceable for me but I am playing it with like nearly 50 mods (no lie I counted and surprised myself hhh).

[vior wolfkin]

Originally posted by rane:

Selling 3x larger world, with more monsters, better, eworked combat with classes distinctly less awful, better pawn AI... as a bundled DLC? Talk about entitlement.

I already have the first ,, So entitled ?? i would get NOWT ,, Did i suggest a price ?? So busy trying to be nasty you forget to read ! PLAY NICE ! ///

[vior wolfkin]

Originally posted by H-Foundry PIXIV:

The fact that such an old game is questionable as a better game to a modern sequel, 11+year gap is already a bad start for DD2 anyway.

The template is already there, the technology has improved, so it shouldn't have been hard to surpass. But too many things can go wrong, like crunch time, Itsuno's 'vision' wanted too much and didn't match budget and time so had to scale back (second half of the game feels unfinished, story elements).

The game is serviceable for me but I am playing it with like nearly 50 mods (no lie I counted and surprised myself hhh).

[vior wolfkin]

I cannot comment on the later game ! but i have read several people complain that the story is not there ?? Surely if this was available as a bundle the story would be better for new players ? and that would maybe equal more positive reviews and higher sales ??? So far i cannot see that the graphics or anything else in DD2 is better than it was in DD dark arisen ! .. I have not played this game with mods so cannot comment on them ! .. I would say that i did expect this game to have better graphics and combat than the original ,, and thus far ?? I am seeing nothing of the sort ! .. I am sad to say ...

[vior wolfkin]

Originally posted by gerechterzorn:

useless speculations

USELESS ANSWER THEN ¬ ??? Why bother ?

[vior wolfkin]

Originally posted by Senki:

I like the first game more as well but not by much, this one is still good and does some things better even if it also does many things worse.

It's also not written or designed to be a dlc, it wouldn't work as a dlc at all.

I am not far enough into the story to comment ! ,, I am merely responding to complaints from others ! .. Certainly the story seems to make little sense if you do not know the original story , So a Sequel ? yes but not a good standalone sequel i think ! In which case a DLC may be a better way to think of it ! ?? Who knows i may change my mind when i have finished this game ???

[Despiser]

Originally posted by vior wolfkin:

But if you have not played Dark arisen < the first game > , then i think DD2 will make far more sense if you buy the original , play it through BEFORE playing this game ! .,.. A few people say the story for DD2 is rubbish ?? Maybe ? i have not finished it yet so no comment ! . But i was wondering ,,, SHOULD DD2 BE CONSIDERED MORE LIKE A DLC RATHER THAN A Standalone or sequel ? Perhaps it would be better if Capcom sold BOTH games one package ???? I already have the first and love it ! ..?????? Have Capcom missed a trick here ?? cos after buying DD2 i doubt many would then buy the first ? Relaunch the first and sell as a pack and maybe we could have the servers back up for the dragon fight etc ???

There certainly is a wide range of opinions. Don't agree that a DLC can be a DLC of another DLC. Doesn't make sense. But when a DLC is released for DD2 it can be properly compared to DDDA. Neither have story as a selling point. If that's your cup of tea play BG3. Personally, too much story is boring for me. It should not dominate. I'd rather play. I liked both DD1 and DD2 but kind of force finished DD1.