Dragon's Dogma 2

Dragon's Dogma 2

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Cal Sep 12, 2024 @ 2:03pm
Please just remove denuvo @devs
Dragons dogma 2 is barely making any sales anymore, removing denuvo will benefit your existing customers and vastly increase performance drawing in new customers if the game simply runs better..
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LegionIscariot Sep 12, 2024 @ 2:16pm 
In a few years they will just replace it with EnigmaDRM.
Originally posted by Cal:
Dragons dogma 2 is barely making any sales anymore, removing denuvo will benefit your existing customers and vastly increase performance drawing in new customers if the game simply runs better..

all of this is a lie
Cal Sep 12, 2024 @ 5:22pm 
Originally posted by Grr. SG CMD Majah Lazah:
Originally posted by Cal:
Dragons dogma 2 is barely making any sales anymore, removing denuvo will benefit your existing customers and vastly increase performance drawing in new customers if the game simply runs better..

all of this is a lie
Please explain how any of my post is a lie. Dragons dogma 2 barely maintains 1200 players and removing denuvo from an already flawed game engine that isn't designed for open world games would dramatically improve performance.

The whole reason no one is buying dragons dogma 2 is due to the horrendous performance.
stevey Sep 12, 2024 @ 5:34pm 
1's in the chat if you're running dd2 maxed on something that isn't even the top of the line


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AsianGirlLover Sep 12, 2024 @ 5:47pm 
Capcom is allergic to money
Xeriath Sep 12, 2024 @ 7:19pm 
Is too early that they remove denuvo. Drawing new costumer mostly doesn’t happen anymore. There are 2 key points which sales normally goes up. A DLC with marketing and/or if the game gets a deep discount. Denuvo mostly doesn’t make a difference if people purchase it or not.
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AsianGirlLover Sep 12, 2024 @ 7:44pm 
Originally posted by Xeriath:
Is too early that they remove denuvo. Drawing new costumer mostly doesn’t happen anymore. There are 2 key points which sales normally goes up. A DLC with marketing and/or if the game gets a deep discount. Denuvo mostly doesn’t make a difference if people purchase it or not.
I wonder where they get that data? Response bias is a thing.
Makima Sep 12, 2024 @ 10:46pm 
Before anyone say pirate, lemme assure you not even the pirates want to download this mess. Lool. I say keep denuvo. let the paying customers suffer, and let no pirate suffer. :steamhappy:
Originally posted by Maekar:
Before anyone say pirate, lemme assure you not even the pirates want to download this mess. Lool. I say keep denuvo. let the paying customers suffer, and let no pirate suffer. :steamhappy:

Congratulations on the dumbest post of the week.
Xeriath Sep 13, 2024 @ 3:00am 
Originally posted by AsianGirlLover:
I wonder where they get that data? Response bias is a thing.

You only need to look in games which get released with Denuvo most of them are top seller. As example Hogwarts Legacy and Black Myth Wukong both comes with Denuvo. Sales were top notch and this is not the rarity. You can take it as you want, but Denuvo simple doesn’t hurt the sales enough, so companies still use it. People which complain or don’t purchase a game because of Dunova are still the minority.

Originally posted by Maekar:
Before anyone say pirate, lemme assure you not even the pirates want to download this mess. Lool. I say keep denuvo. let the paying customers suffer, and let no pirate suffer. :steamhappy:

The person which can crack this already wrote they will not do that for Dragons Dogma 2 because Capcom normally remove Denuvo after some time. Just use a search engine and you will find it. There are not many people which can crack Denuvo.
lukaself Sep 13, 2024 @ 3:30am 
Originally posted by Xeriath:
Originally posted by AsianGirlLover:
I wonder where they get that data? Response bias is a thing.

You only need to look in games which get released with Denuvo most of them are top seller. As example Hogwarts Legacy and Black Myth Wukong both comes with Denuvo. Sales were top notch and this is not the rarity. You can take it as you want, but Denuvo simple doesn’t hurt the sales enough, so companies still use it. People which complain or don’t purchase a game because of Dunova are still the minority.

You need to review your facts: You might not have gotten the memo but DRM-free titles are in the majority, 6 out of 10 of the best sellers on Steam are DRM-free titles for the first half of this year: https://imgur.com/a/G8TBdSs By your own logic, DRM-free is more of a standard than Denuvo is.

Last year's best seller on Steam was Baldur's Gate 3, not Hogwarts which came second and far behind: https://i.redd.it/owr1r8d36acc1.png Baldur's Gate 3 happens to be completely DRM-free. 2022 was the year of Elden Ring - no Denuvo there, 2021's most popular title Valheim was DRM-free, 2020 best selling title Hades was DRM-free, as well as Slay the Spire in 2019, Rimworld in 2018, Hollow Knight in 2017, Stardew Valley in 2016, The Witcher 3 in 2015... not a single game with Denuvo ever held that honour in 11 years of existence.

Wukong, while an excellent game, is an anomalous outlier from a new market with 95% of their playerbase being from China - according to the Steam reviews - where people are used to getting monitored.

Another fact you missed is that Denuvo usage has gone back 45% compared to the same time last year (20 as opposed to 36 games last year from January to August) and with less than 30-40 games every year (around 250 games in ten years) it only represents less than 0.6% than the 15000 games Steam releases every year. 99% of Denuvo's usage comes from four companies with a long history of anti-consumer practices which happen to be the target of another large spectrum lawsuit in Europe for deceptive practices. Among them: EA, Ubisoft, SEGA and CAPCOM.
Last edited by lukaself; Sep 17, 2024 @ 12:06pm
Xeriath Sep 13, 2024 @ 3:49am 
I still stand my point Companies will still use Denuvo and in the end it doesn’t hurt the sales to much. CAPCOM is one of the companies which release almost all their games with Denuvo. If you want a change then just ignore Capcom and wait until they remove Denuvo.

I don’t protect Denuvo, but you see a pattern with Capcom games. I bet with you Monster Hunter Wild will again come with Denuvo, because of Capcom’s way and people will again complain, and it will be again a top seller. If this is an important stand for you THEN get more players on your ship which don’t purchase Capcom game’s because of Denuvo.
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lukaself Sep 13, 2024 @ 4:19am 
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Originally posted by Xeriath:
I still stand my point Companies will still use Denuvo
Your point is dead in the water with both legs broken. I just demonstrated to you, evidence in hand, that companies are not "still using Denuvo" and that Denuvo wasn't the standard you described it as. It's been on a downward trend for the past seven or eight years.

Even CAPCOM has largely relaxed its policies, including how they moderate these forums regarding DRM discussions which used to not even be allowed. They used to keep their DRM for years, even when deprecated... most of their games still have SecuROM to this day. They only started to remove it after the overwhelmingly negative feedback the 2021 global Denuvo outages caused.

And while Monster Hunter is doing great, it's on a sharp downward trend in terms of popularity: it lost a third of its audience as people shunned Rise after realizing how over-monetized World was. Like many large corporations, they often sideline the effects of long term consequences in favour of growth and short term profits for the shareholders - a strategy even shareholders hold as counter-productive.[www.gamesindustry.biz]

Changes are already following their course and considering how they've been experimenting, slowly replacing Irdeto's middleware with a less expensive, albeit less effective DRM - Enigma - it's not out of the question for CAPCOM to completely give up on Denuvo in the near future, like Bandai Namco did back in 2019 following criticism from its directors, despite being previously their biggest customer. :clickbutton:
Last edited by lukaself; Sep 13, 2024 @ 4:33am
PeaceMaker Sep 13, 2024 @ 1:47pm 
A lot of potential consumers here wanting denuvo removed.
Last edited by PeaceMaker; Sep 13, 2024 @ 1:48pm
Antigreedy Sep 13, 2024 @ 9:34pm 
Meanwhile, Cyberpunk without Denuvo, has over 10,000 players on steam. Give up Capcom lol.
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