Dragon's Dogma 2

Dragon's Dogma 2

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Segert Dec 2, 2024 @ 2:59pm
Still mixed reviews? Why?
I loved the first dragons dogma. At release i heard this was a cash grab with its 'DLC' and no saves and paid character customization.

I wondered if they fixed the egregious parts. I still want to buy and play this. But the reviews are still mixed. Why? Did they change anything?
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Thel Dec 2, 2024 @ 3:07pm 
Monetization is Ubisoft levels of slop. Anyone that bought it deserves to be fleeced of every dime they have.
leqesai Dec 2, 2024 @ 3:31pm 
Originally posted by Segert:
I loved the first dragons dogma. At release i heard this was a cash grab with its 'DLC' and no saves and paid character customization.

I wondered if they fixed the egregious parts. I still want to buy and play this. But the reviews are still mixed. Why? Did they change anything?
The game is solid. If you enjoyed Dragon's Dogma 1 then there is a lot to love with this. Bigger world, more varied nuances with the vocations, and generally just "more" of what made the first game great.

From a technical standpoint it is one of the early games in the next big wave of hardware requirements so many players are unable to enjoy it. That and the DLC shop is pretty scuzzy, but you can easily avoid using it.

The game absolutely doesn't warrant the level of basement-dweller trolling/bashing it gets.
I've been playing it pretty much 24/7 since Wednesday last week and have had a great time.
Faust Wither Dec 2, 2024 @ 3:55pm 
mostly performance, there still many people has problem with it.
TheDeadHavRisen Dec 2, 2024 @ 4:13pm 
clunky UI and systems. badly written story. and only one character slot?

Yeah, it's deserving of the mixed reviews.
hoovsbin Dec 2, 2024 @ 4:24pm 
Originally posted by Segert:
I loved the first dragons dogma. At release i heard this was a cash grab with its 'DLC' and no saves and paid character customization.

I wondered if they fixed the egregious parts. I still want to buy and play this. But the reviews are still mixed. Why? Did they change anything?

I can't explain or understand the hatred this game has produced.

1. "this was a cash grab with it's DLC"
Completely optional purchases of in-game items to be in possession at game beginning. Only thing actually helpful was an extra port crystal.

2. "no saves"
One (1) official save system in-game - BUT - limitless saves on your hard drive.

3. "paid character customization"
Wut? All character customization is part of the game.

Buy it. You're really gonna like it.
gerechterzorn Dec 2, 2024 @ 4:40pm 
Originally posted by hoovsbin:
Originally posted by Segert:
I loved the first dragons dogma. At release i heard this was a cash grab with its 'DLC' and no saves and paid character customization.

I wondered if they fixed the egregious parts. I still want to buy and play this. But the reviews are still mixed. Why? Did they change anything?

I can't explain or understand the hatred this game has produced.

1. "this was a cash grab with it's DLC"
Completely optional purchases of in-game items to be in possession at game beginning. Only thing actually helpful was an extra port crystal.

2. "no saves"
One (1) official save system in-game - BUT - limitless saves on your hard drive.

3. "paid character customization"
Wut? All character customization is part of the game.

Buy it. You're really gonna like it.

This.

Btw, the 'mixed' reviews are going down now, it is getting better. The 'reasons' for the reviews are mostly misinformed nonsense or people with ♥♥♥♥♥♥ hardware/software/skills (both in reg. to Computers and reg. the game itself)
Despiser Dec 2, 2024 @ 5:20pm 
Originally posted by Segert:
I loved the first dragons dogma. At release i heard this was a cash grab with its 'DLC' and no saves and paid character customization.

I wondered if they fixed the egregious parts. I still want to buy and play this. But the reviews are still mixed. Why? Did they change anything?
There is no DLC, there's a store that sells irrelevant stuff. Do you ever bother to vet your sources? There's no paid character whatever and players have manual saves to bypass like valheim, Elden Ring etc. if you struggle with basic knowledge then it's not surprising you need approval of others (including those feeding you nonsense) to buy games. Some of the worst games are "overwhelmingly positive" according to steam user reviews. Again, the same culprits you base your opinions on. So go buy faster than light, goat simulator 3 or BG3 then you can take comfort you made wise purchases SMH
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Dec 2, 2024 @ 5:29pm 
The amount of disinformation people spread about this game is ridiculous.
To this day, people still believe the game contains mobile-game levels of monetization.

Here's the thing: 99% of people have beaten this game without even purchasing *any* DLC whatsoever.

Additionally, there is no "paid character customization". It works just like in the first game: you create your characters, buy stuff in the game with gold and with riftcrystals. That's it.

Just like in the first one, you get one save slot.

As you can see, everything works exactly like it did in the first game.

The reason for the mixed rating is mostly due to trolls looking for something to hate on.

I've honestly never seen so many people overexaggerate a game's flaws like they have done with this one, to the point of even making stuff up to keep people away from it.

People that have played the game will agree that the game has a rushed ending and it becomes too easy halfway through, but that aside the game is definitely one of the best games released this year. The gameplay is as fun as it was in the first one.
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Chaos Dec 2, 2024 @ 7:39pm 
It's sadly still leave much to be desired, I expect improvement over the DD1.
But this ain't even that, feel more like a sidegrade.

With the DLC that might bring this game to the DDDA level is nowhere to be seen to this day.
Last edited by Chaos; Dec 2, 2024 @ 7:40pm
Donoghu Dec 2, 2024 @ 7:48pm 
Originally posted by hoovsbin:
2. "no saves"
One (1) official save system in-game - BUT - limitless saves on your hard drive.

The complains about the one official save system is made by players who fail at understanding the exponential difference in size and volume that comes if that limitation wasn't in place.

Imagine the hell of fetching Pawns out of a system that would allows every player's individual characters' pawn to be stored all at once. What would happen if a player delete a character? Should character deletion be only allowed online because the server would have to know that the pawn is now deleted? People would then just delete the file and, damn, at that point it becomes a nightmare if the offline data is missing or changed while the online data (which might be days older) is still live. For example, let's say a player create a character named Bob and submit its Pawn to the online database for other to call upon it, then, 2 months later, delete that character and create a new character with the same name. To avoid complication, each save would requires a 2nd unique name generated on creation and those names would need to be stored locally and online... but what if another player somewhere else generate the same "unique" name in some way?

That's without the issues of fetching pollution, an issue you'll find in e.v.e.r.y. games that allows close-to-unlimited new entries. Imagine if the Pawn system would keep all pawns data of every character ever created by every players ever. Especially early in the game, you would find millions of pawns basically wasting server storage and the fetching would mostly be slow as hell unless the game would use some massive and expensive server infrastructure akin to Google's.

People either don't know or forgot what has happened with Dragon Dogma 1 with the pawn RC reward system. During the first year after DD1 was released, players would get stable RC (a special currency) from their pawn being used by other players and returned once said players reach point where that pawn in that point of time isn't useful anymore (as only the player's pawn level up properly while all the other pawns remains the same). Whenever a pawn in another player's party would succeed in a quest, they get RC. The more quests gets completed and the more difficulty quest are, the more RC is rewarded. It was also possible for player to invest RC to acquire stronger pawns which adds up to the RC rewards. Acquiring stronger pawns also came with the convenience of helps/tips for quests they have completed previously like calling out that a strong monster (boss) is close by or a treasure (chest) awaits somewhere nearby or that a place is rigged with traps or ambushes.

In the first years of DD1, I could net over 1,000-2,000 RC per day once my pawn reached a class level & equipment that made it useful. Nowadays, I'm lucky if I ever see 100 RC coming in when I play. That's because DD1 pawns server is just overfilled with useless pawns from all the characters created since DD1 release. It came to the point where DD1 pawns server now has scheduled wipe whenever the number of pawns exceed a certain number and the only way to renew a pawn is to play its master character and access the Inn.

By limiting each "account" accessing the Pawn server to a single save/pawn that gets overwritten whenever another pawn is registered over it, that limits the amount of pawns stored on the pawn server. If there's 1 millions players who register a pawn, that means there's 1 million pawns (on top of the default/basic ones) to choose from and not 3+ millions because each players has 3+ characters/pawns created.
SP2244 Dec 2, 2024 @ 8:01pm 
It is buggy as H***! And only allows 1 save, so if you hit a bug and don't know it , save, then you are forever screwed and may have to start the game from scratch. Who releases a game with this many bugs in mission and has only 1 save slot to load from!

Play for 40 hours, lose all your progress, then come back here and repeat your ? I have had 2 missions for no reason guards attack me and killed me.... yet nothing in mission description says why - others say online is bug.... but now what! All I can do it go do another mission and nope it lets me continue. Another mission I am supposed to go to room in castle, I hear talking , supposed to sneak in after cut scene, but nope, attacked immediately and put in jail and now mission seems to have locked door no matter what! So game over before begins......

This is one of those games you have to wait for year for them to fix all the bugs then try to play how should be..... even after sleeping and moving on, came back to area for ball and attacked in courtyard even though dressed properly and nothing extra..... I mean I am not even dressed the same. I was really liking the game till about this stage of game.... whole evening was one failed mission after another, obviously hit a bug somewhere and game seemed to have ended for me. For goodness save do an auto save or something so we can recover before a bug (rather lose 1 hour vs. 30 hours).

Also the graphics are very dated, the new witcher upgrade blows this out of water and that is very old game. It is really like playing the original, seems rather lazy design, even the layouts seem the same...... and the PC key design is very poor (tried to remap for single key to trigger spell, can't get to work, foolish to have to hold 2 keys then attack key to even start spell - 3 keys - really!) I payed $30 on sale, but if they would have made a better game would have payed $60+, they screwed up big time!! They gave all lovers of 1st game , waiting years for the next generation DD2, the middle finger and expected loyalty to be enough to turn over $60 for a DLC type improvement!!
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DUNK Dec 2, 2024 @ 9:28pm 
It has mixed reviews because it deserves to have mixed reviews. I bought the game on sale for around $40 and it was worth the price, I've gotten a lot of playtime out of it... but the game is plagued by laughably terrible design decisions from the gameplay to the story and characterization. It feels like the game was designed by several different teams that never once communicated with each other. Quite frankly, at times, it feels unfinished. Terrible AI (pawns constantly getting stuck, falling off cliffs for no reason, etc), extreme lack of any real difficulty, and archaic quests that are tedious, unrewarding and super obtuse. It's possible to completely lock yourself out of very important skills for vocations without ever even knowing it. The only place in which this game really excels is the gameplay. It's very fun, very satisfying and exploration is usually worth it... athough there is a lot of padding with filler loot and such.

If you liked the first game, you'll probably enjoy this one, but you will likely come to realize that Capcom learned nothing from the first game. The game kept most (not all) of the magic from the first game... but it also kept most of the bad too. It retreads a lot of what the first game did, but much more clumsily, especially as the story is concerned.
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rane Dec 2, 2024 @ 10:20pm 
Originally posted by Thel:
Monetization is Ubisoft levels of slop. Anyone that bought it deserves to be fleeced of every dime they have.
That's a lie.

except it's not more, the first one still has more content and better gameplay
That's also wrong, DD2 map is larger, there are more enemies, there's more towns, there are more sidequests, the main questline is a bit more expansive, especially post dragon. The gameplay is far more balanced, the classes have been refined, the physicality of it all is superior, enemy placement is more thought out with better variety in any part of the map.

And it's actually smooth to play because of no performance issues
Compare DD1 on launch with DD2 on launch, coward.
Jordan_Peterson Dec 2, 2024 @ 11:35pm 
To me personally its a really boring game. Its an IP refresh with nothing fresh in it. But thats just me. So 68% review score on steam is on point. Would not give it more than a 6/10.
rane Dec 3, 2024 @ 12:16am 
Originally posted by Senki:
Originally posted by rane:
That's also wrong, DD2 map is larger, there are more enemies, there's more towns, there are more sidequests, the main questline is a bit more expansive, especially post dragon. The gameplay is far more balanced, the classes have been refined, the physicality of it all is superior, enemy placement is more thought out with better variety in any part of the map.


Compare DD1 on launch with DD2 on launch, coward.

lol no, the current version of DD1 has more enemies and content than DD2. The player movement and smoothness of abilities is also better in 1.
Wrong on both counts. It's absolutely amazing, the wikis are *right there* and the enemies are listed for both.


This game will be abandoned while they focus entirely on monster hunter and the next resident evil. It was a failure and they can't fix it.
You've been repeating this uber cope for 10 months. The patches keep coming.
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