Not supporting the GTX 1070 is really lame

[Braden]

especially when the minimum requirements on the store page contradict the error dialogue I get saying that the game does in fact support the 1070. Yeesh, good thing I didn't waste my money on this.

[Braden]

The GTX 1070 is not that old. It was literally the cutting edge 6 years ago (edit: yeah yeah, 1080, two year discrepancy, not important). You could get away with not supporting a setup from a handful of years ago back in the early 2000's / mid-90's, but it's not It's not the mid-2000's any more. Not having some specific hardware feature is no excuse to stop the whole game from running. That's what graphics settings are for. Believe it or not, we don't all need 16x antialiasing on the leaves of grass and raytracing and 8K resolution, and not everyone is keen to pay thousands of dollars to a scalper for an RTX that if we stay on this absurd trajectory will be outdated in 5 years. Some of us don't upgrade to the latest smartphone every year, because the Pixel 2XL we got several years ago still works fine. Give support for lower versions of DirectX, more portability, lower effects, etc. Wide support and configurability is literally the whole allure of PC gaming. There is no good reason not to support the GTX 10XX family. I'm sure the game will work fine without the "AtomicInt64OnDescriptorHeapResource" feature.

Frankly, if Windows and DX12 have no problem supporting my graphics hardware, then a game using DX12 should have no problem, either.

[Money Christ]

the gtx 1070 is now 8 years old. Technology has progressed rapidly. The age of your card is irrelevant. It is massively outdated. Good job sucking yourself off for not purchasing one of the greatest rpgs ever. Update your pc. You're going to find yourself unable to play much of anything even at 30 fps here soon with all these ue5 games coming out.

[Braden]

Originally posted by Jeff Benzo$:

the gtx 1070 is now 8 years old. Technology has progressed rapidly. The age of your card is irrelevant. It is massively outdated. Good job sucking yourself off for not purchasing one of the greatest rpgs ever. Update your pc. You're going to find yourself unable to play much of anything even at 30 fps here soon with all these ue5 games coming out.

Moore's Law is dead and has been dead for over a decade. Technology doesn't progress as rapidly as you think. A.I. is a scam and adding a new coat of paint is not innovation. Your assertion may have been true 20 years ago, but it is 2024 and my PC from 2018 still runs as well today as it did when I bought it.

Speaking as a software developer, there is no good reason not to support the GTX 1070, or the GTX 950, for that matter. They have the features and APIs necessary to do what needs to be done, and again, the whole allure of PC gaming is the extent to which you can configure things, especially graphics settings.

Go back to your PS5, but when you get older and you realize that I was right and that gameplay > graphics, don't come crying to me.

[Zeel Ara]

Originally posted by Braden:

The GTX 1070 is not that old. It was literally the cutting edge 6 years ago.

You might want to look that one up. GTX 1070 was 8 years ago, and was the nvidia mid tier card announced. It was never "cutting edge" at any point in time, since the 1080 was designed for that position, and it ESPECIALLY wasn't "cutting edge" in the year the 20xx series was released.

It's one thing to be ignorant, that's perfectly fine. It's impossible for a person to know everything about everything. But to make agitated sweeping statements based on that ignorance is just pathetic. Be better.

EDIT: Oh good grief, I just saw you referring to your "qualifications" as a developer. Yikes. That makes your staggering ignorance even more embarrassing.

[Braden]

Originally posted by Moffle:

Originally posted by Braden:

The GTX 1070 is not that old. It was literally the cutting edge 6 years ago.

You might want to look that one up. GTX 1070 was 8 years ago, and was the nvidia mid tier card announced. It was never "cutting edge" at any point in time, since the 1080 was designed for that position, and it ESPECIALLY wasn't "cutting edge" in the year the 20xx series was released.

It's one thing to be ignorant, that's perfectly fine. It's impossible for a person to know everything about everything. But to make agitated sweeping statements based on that ignorance is just pathetic. Be better.

2 years is negligible, my point still stands. It's a fine card. It gets the job done.

[Braden]

Originally posted by Moffle:

EDIT: Oh good grief, I just saw you referring to your "qualifications" as a developer. Yikes. That makes your staggering ignorance even more embarrassing.

You know ONE unimportant factoid that I don't and that suddenly makes you feel emboldened to call me "embarrassing" and "pathetic". Ok. Go off I guess.

[Braden]

The GTX 1070 is a fine card and still works great in 2024, and I shouldn't have to buy a new one just because one development studio didn't feel like supporting it, and I will die on this hill. The only reason this game "doesn't support" my graphics card is because of an API difference. They so easily could support it, by flipping a couple switches in their IDE and adding some graphics options, like every PC game developer does and has done since DOS.

Legacy support is messy. Operating systems are messy. Software is messy. That's the reality, and that's part of the job.

Keep fanboying.

[Q]

Originally posted by Braden:

The GTX 1070 is a fine card and still works great in 2024, and I shouldn't have to buy a new one just because one development studio didn't feel like supporting it, and I will die on this hill. The only reason this game "doesn't support" my graphics card is because of an API difference. They so easily could support it, by flipping a couple switches in their IDE and adding some graphics options, like every PC game developer does and has done since DOS.

Legacy support is messy. Operating systems are messy. Software is messy. That's the reality, and that's part of the job.

Keep fanboying.

Dont bother, capcom released half baked broken -AAA game with terrible performance, even gamers nexus proved this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=twEERkUyAXE

[Braden]

Originally posted by Berries and Cream:

Originally posted by Braden:

The GTX 1070 is a fine card and still works great in 2024, and I shouldn't have to buy a new one just because one development studio didn't feel like supporting it, and I will die on this hill. The only reason this game "doesn't support" my graphics card is because of an API difference. They so easily could support it, by flipping a couple switches in their IDE and adding some graphics options, like every PC game developer does and has done since DOS.

Legacy support is messy. Operating systems are messy. Software is messy. That's the reality, and that's part of the job.

Keep fanboying.

Dont bother, capcom released half baked broken -AAA game with terrible performance, even gamers nexus proved this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=twEERkUyAXE

Yikes!

[JtDarth]

Originally posted by Braden:

The GTX 1070 is a fine card and still works great in 2024, and I shouldn't have to buy a new one just because one development studio didn't feel like supporting it, and I will die on this hill. The only reason this game "doesn't support" my graphics card is because of an API difference. They so easily could support it, by flipping a couple switches in their IDE and adding some graphics options, like every PC game developer does and has done since DOS.

Legacy support is messy. Operating systems are messy. Software is messy. That's the reality, and that's part of the job.

Keep fanboying.

If you think it can be fixed by 'flipping a couple switches in an IDE' you have no business WHATSOEVER trying to claim any kind of developer status. Switching APIs and featureset support is in fact not that simple, especially if VFX were designed with a specific featureset in mind.
Your card doesn't have the required featureset. They should update the store page, which is the ONLY thing I will agree with you on. They should be listing a 2060 or 2060s.

[SilverFish]

well both things are still true.
the game is badly optimized
1070 is a old card in todays standards

most ppl on steam have moved on to 3000 series or better now a day, so most game will be made for the most common hardware to hit the highest playerbase, thats just how basic logic works

https://store.steampowered.com/hwsurvey/videocard/

[rane]

Bruh your 8 year old "performance" card is about an order of magnitude worse than the current "budget" cards. Stop coping.

[Grr. [SG CMD] Majah Lazah]

Originally posted by Braden:

The GTX 1070 is a fine card and still works great in 2024, and I shouldn't have to buy a new one just because one development studio didn't feel like supporting it, and I will die on this hill. The only reason this game "doesn't support" my graphics card is because of an API difference. They so easily could support it, by flipping a couple switches in their IDE and adding some graphics options, like every PC game developer does and has done since DOS.

Legacy support is messy. Operating systems are messy. Software is messy. That's the reality, and that's part of the job.

Keep fanboying.

Your denial isn't going to solve anything.

Your architecture is literally noncompliant. It's also noncompliant with U5.4, period.

[Rubinstein]

Originally posted by Berries and Cream:

Originally posted by Braden:

The GTX 1070 is a fine card and still works great in 2024, and I shouldn't have to buy a new one just because one development studio didn't feel like supporting it, and I will die on this hill. The only reason this game "doesn't support" my graphics card is because of an API difference. They so easily could support it, by flipping a couple switches in their IDE and adding some graphics options, like every PC game developer does and has done since DOS.

Legacy support is messy. Operating systems are messy. Software is messy. That's the reality, and that's part of the job.

Keep fanboying.

Dont bother, capcom released half baked broken -AAA game with terrible performance, even gamers nexus proved this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=twEERkUyAXE

Cool. Youtuber refers to negative Steam reviews, Steam reviews refer to Youtuber. Am I the only one who has a problem with this? And btw, Youtuber isn't doing it as a gesture of goodwill, at least his sponsors are listed. What a trustworthy echo chamber slingshot.


As for the GTX 1070, seriously now? Try selling it on ebay and be happy if you get another 5 bucks for it. Or trade it for a steam engine. Good luck!

edit: Just realized this review isn't just 3 months old (what microtransactions? Does he seriously mean that useless crap that no one really needs to "win" the game? LOL), but also the CPU test was done with Win 11. And I thought power gamers would still massively diss this Windows version when it comes to gaming. Note: sometimes the older stuff is actually better - by the way, I still have an about 20 year old joystick sidewinder ff 2 from microsoft that still works flawlessly. Unfortunately, your GTX 1070 is not one of these exceptions... though I'm pretty sure, it still plays Nethack just fine.

[archonsod]

Originally posted by Braden:

The GTX 1070 is not that old. It was literally the cutting edge 6 years ago (edit: yeah yeah, 1080, two year discrepancy, not important). You could get away with not supporting a setup from a handful of years ago back in the early 2000's / mid-90's, but it's not It's not the mid-2000's any more.

According to the Steam hardware survey 1070's are 1.11% of the user base and declining. I doubt they're losing out that much by refusing to support them.