Who actually spends RC to hire pawns?

[Skyward]

It's literally a no brainer to not spend RC hiring pawns. This game feature needs to be fixed.

[The Debauchery]

Originally posted by Skyward:

It's literally a no brainer to not spend RC hiring pawns. This game feature needs to be fixed.

Not sure if you're Clown Farming or genuinely don't understand why the RC system exists.

I'll try to explain for you simply:

The higher a Pawn's level, the more RC it costs to hire. That is because it is stronger. RC cost, roughly speaking equates to greater Pawn strength.... which means easier combat and easier progression through the game.
If there were no RC costs then you could simply hire someone's pawn that is something like Level 200 and they would just steamroll the game for you.

THAT SAID... there are no RC costs for hiring friends' pawns anyway.
If you really want to hire high-level pawns, you just need to get their player to accept your friend request.

In any case.... the point is that RC costs serve a purpose. You gain RC by having your Pawn hired and spend it hiring other Pawns. It is meant to encourage co-operation.
I don't pay RC costs because I only hire friends' pawns... and my own other accounts. That way I can spend the RC on new glasses.


Oh, and I should note... I haven't strictly confirmed it in DD2, but I strongly suspect it works the same as DD1.... as in there is an Experience Penalty for using higher level pawns in your party.... with penalties increasing with the level difference up to a maximum of 25 levels. And if you hire 2 pawns that are 25+ levels higher than your own, your XP gain will be cut by half.

[Migromul]

honestly, I don't understand your text-statement, perhaps because my native language ist German...

"It's a no-brainer to NOT spend RC for hiring pawns., that should be fixed..." If tit's no-brainer, to not spend RC, what about that should be fixed? I don't get it, realy.

If I understant the text, other words for it could be: "you must be stupid, if you spend RC for hiring pawns." That would also be on par to the title. then.

I'm a German-guy, but I know the phrase "no-brainer", I think. But if I understand you correctly, I don't know what you want to be fixed, then...

[Adam__86]

You use RC to hire over levelled pawns to cheese fights, however the game is already easy with 0 RC pawns

[omed_86]

I mean the option is there for people who want it, so eh.
I personally don't go out of my way to hire pawns higher level, if anything, I am guilty of keeping hired pawns for as long as I can, but sometimes I'll find one I like that is a couple of levels higher, I don't mind paying 68 RC.

Or you can use it to buy spectacles XD

[Loz ~]

I don't see much point to hiring over leveled pawns either. The game's doable easily enough with same or even slightly under leveled pawns.
But if you want to or feel the need to you can get carried by your stronger pawns.

[The Debauchery]

I suppose it should be mentioned that DD2, unlike DDDA, tends to deliberately push higher levelled pawns at players. The Forgotten Rift Stones always seem to be populated by pawns a few levels higher than the player's own, which necessitates Rift Crystal expenditure.
But that is just the game being idiotic and trying to stop people playing the way they want to play.

Originally posted by Loz ~:

I don't see much point to hiring over leveled pawns either. The game's doable easily enough with same or even slightly under leveled pawns.
But if you want to or feel the need to you can get carried by your stronger pawns.

The only tenuous reason is that hired pawns do not gain experience while with the Arisen... so if you hire pawns that are the same level or lower, they'll rapidly fall behind as you progress with them... all the moreso because the lower their level, the more Experience you gain, due to how the penalties work.
I guess that is meant to encourage us to swap pawns out frequently... but it just feels like a pain and some people probably want to get higher level pawns so they can be with them for longer without them becoming a liability.

[D. Flame]

I do. I search for a pawn with the skills I want. If it is a few levels higher, I will go ahead and pay.

[Migromul]

Spending 100-200 RC irealy isn't much efford. You get 100-200 RC every time your pawn comes back. and 30 RC every time you activate a forgotten Riftstone. Fighting ghosts also gives RCs.
And with the last patch, even the inclination-change-iitems got significantly lower in price. They're still a one-time-buy per playthough it seems. I'm not sure, if they get restocked, but I doubt that, bcause the random changer is available 9 times... They GOT restocked, however if you bought one before the patch. (as I did.)
5 level higher pawns are 184 RC in cost afair. It's not needed, but you don't need to care about that, realy.

[Skyward]

Originally posted by The Debauchery:

Originally posted by Skyward:

It's literally a no brainer to not spend RC hiring pawns. This game feature needs to be fixed.

Not sure if you're Clown Farming or genuinely don't understand why the RC system exists.

I'll try to explain for you simply:

The higher a Pawn's level, the more RC it costs to hire. That is because it is stronger. RC cost, roughly speaking equates to greater Pawn strength.... which means easier combat and easier progression through the game.
If there were no RC costs then you could simply hire someone's pawn that is something like Level 200 and they would just steamroll the game for you.

THAT SAID... there are no RC costs for hiring friends' pawns anyway.
If you really want to hire high-level pawns, you just need to get their player to accept your friend request.

In any case.... the point is that RC costs serve a purpose. You gain RC by having your Pawn hired and spend it hiring other Pawns. It is meant to encourage co-operation.
I don't pay RC costs because I only hire friends' pawns... and my own other accounts. That way I can spend the RC on new glasses.


Oh, and I should note... I haven't strictly confirmed it in DD2, but I strongly suspect it works the same as DD1.... as in there is an Experience Penalty for using higher level pawns in your party.... with penalties increasing with the level difference up to a maximum of 25 levels. And if you hire 2 pawns that are 25+ levels higher than your own, your XP gain will be cut by half.

Learn to read my post before answering the question for god sake.

[Skyward]

Originally posted by Loz ~:

I don't see much point to hiring over leveled pawns either. The game's doable easily enough with same or even slightly under leveled pawns.
But if you want to or feel the need to you can get carried by your stronger pawns.

My point exactly, thank you.

[Migromul]

Originally posted by Skyward:

Originally posted by Loz ~:

I don't see much point to hiring over leveled pawns either. The game's doable easily enough with same or even slightly under leveled pawns.
But if you want to or feel the need to you can get carried by your stronger pawns.

My point exactly, thank you.

Okay, but you still didn't answer my question: What exactly should get fixed about it?!?

[Raven]

Originally posted by Skyward:

It's literally a no brainer to not spend RC hiring pawns. This game feature needs to be fixed.

I have spent a little rc to hire pawns a few levels over me. It was not the level but the look and skills that I liked. I don't bother anymore since 80% of those pawns fall or get pushed into the brine. I have more rc than I ever need since I don't use it for anything else.

[DensetsuDan]

That moment you hire a random pawn on the road thinking to make a quick 10,000 only to see it cost you 250RC+...

[Skyward]

Originally posted by DensetsuDan:

That moment you hire a random pawn on the road thinking to make a quick 10,000 only to see it cost you 250RC+... :sadpanda:

Point in case. Bad game mechanic.