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The dragon in DD1 is supposed to be failed arisen that challenged the Seneschal, as the cutscene shows you. But this is one of those plotpoints left open as gaps, just as you said.
And then, Itsuno decides to soft-reboot in DD2, as a realization of the idea behind DD1.
So Pathfinder is akin to the DD1 Seneschal in DD2. And just like the Seneschal in DD1, he wants to find a will. But unlike DD1, it is not to replace him but for the world to not die.
Spoilers: https://www.reddit.com/r/DragonsDogma/comments/1buhxyc/the_true_world_has_been_reached_the_true_cycle/?share_id=_wrKnJceUYbPWW7xeZ49_&utm_content=1&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=ioscss&utm_source=share&utm_term=1
Spoliers:
https://steamcommunity.com/app/2054970/discussions/0/4352240417148808872/?ctp=5
At #73.
And #60 is for Rothais' English quote in game.
There is a throughout explanation at #81.
Basically, he is not the Seneschal as it was in DD1. As himself said, he is a past arisen who killed dragon and founded the kingdom.
What he said in Japanese only used the word "界王" once, which is more as a title (or a reference to DD1) to describe himself as the ruler of the world. Also which the English translation does has some sense in translating it as "king of the world." It is just that "界王" is translated into "seneschal" in DD1.
And since so much is different, we can't simply apply DD1 lore and setting onto DD2. So if you want to name a seneschal in DD2 it is Pathfinder.
My thoughts?
Seneschal is basically God watching over people.
First game, God was bored out of his mind and really really wants to retire. So he tries to find a sucksessor.
Second game, God was bored out of his mind and decided to enact a B movie plot.
The dragon and the brine are God's "envoys"
Dragon is there to "make an Arisen"
Brine is just there to keep everyone (mostly you) in place (note that in the first game, Saurians can actually stay underwater).
Didn't the pathfinder say that the brine was to ensure the dragon didn't go against the cycle?
As if opinions goes before the facts and evidences.
Again, "As if opinions goes before the facts and evidences." Also, "like 10 people" "10 times" So how many really? And what does that has to do with my posts, opinion or not?
Those are also not opinions but understandings based on the game provided and info from devs directly. It is most unfortunate you seems can not understand it.
When I do have an opinion I would clearly state "my guess" "I think" "probably" etc.
Who is really making up info and dialog, while fanficting FROM in game things, applying external settings and lore?
And also who are you again? What's with you going after my posts?
No. Is me DO NOT KNOW what else to tell you. And TO NOT HARASS ME again.
They're not. Two major details of note:
The Seafloor shrine (viewable in it's full in the World Unmoored,) is Gran Soren. The layout is nearly the same, save some damage from the passage of time, and the place you come out from talking to Rothis is the Duke's Domain.
In addition, and this is a harder detail to spot as you don't spend a lot of time there... when we first meet Rothis, the "throne" he's sitting on is the Seat of the Seneschal. It's location under the Seafloor shrine also leads me to believe it exists under whatever is left of the Everfall.
These two worlds are linked... and if so, then the Pathfinder is the current Seneschal. to that end, I believe the Pathfinder has perverted the Cycle present in the first game... the question is why. because he was bored? because he was power hungry? It's stated in the first game that the reason the Seneschal looks for another Arisen to test and prove worthy of succession is not out of boredom, but out of the fact that keeping the cycle moving drains the will of the current "god", and this will needs to be replaced every so often. So, my question is... again, what has changed?
To add, also the bluemoon tower besides Vernworth, and the Great Wall.
It's clear that this is only a soft-reboot. But not all the thing you can simply apply over as if the events follow the DD1. This is as Itsuno and devs explained pre-launch.
And again, this is why DD1 setting can't be simply applied. He explained at the end he wants to find a will so that the world will not fall into oblivion. Which is a different but familiar motive compare to DD1. They re-imagined this part.
What changed is, in DD1 we become the new Seneschal. In DD2, what we really did is fulfilled Pathfinder's wish and managed to defeat him, and we break free the world from him. There is no longer a real cycle in DD2, only a fake arison-dragon cycle that is Pathfinder's test.
One thing that is accepted fact in both Dragon's Dogmas is the rift and the existance of parallel worlds. There are countless Gransys' and countless Vermounds.
The odd thing is, both state simply that there is only one world "template", if you would, and all the parallels are nearly exact copies of that world with some details changed. Now, this could simply be justification for the Pawn system and the fact that every copy of both DDs are singleplayer games with slight community aspects. But following the logic, assuming this concept is real in the world of the games...
The presence of Gran Soren implies that, along whatever major timeline all these different parallel worlds share, Gransys eventually becomes submerged, and Vermond and Bahttal are founded somewhere along the line. Two things that aren't explained are, as mentioned before; Why there is no longer a cycle of the Arisen becoming the world's equivalent of god to continue the cycle. Where the Beastren came from, as they're not mentioned in Gransys at all.
There's also the point the World Unmoored doesn't need to exist at all, even within the bounds of the world's rules. The Seneschal has the power to make another dragon, or even turn our Arisen into a dragon should we make the choice we do. The only reason The world becomes Unmoored is him more or less having a fit that we didn't do what we wanted. Why does he do this? Is this what happens when a Seneschal goes too long without a replacement? Does their "Will" become corrupted and they become consumed by the power they needed to wield for the world to continue to exist?
I've got questions, and sadly, like the first game, I'm not sure I'll get answers.
Edit:
But as stated, the world doesn't truly fall into oblivion just because the Seneschal fears it. It's implied that the cycle of Seneschals is what does it. unless the NG+ of the first game was more literal, and the world literally restarts when the new Seneschal takes over.
This would imply that what the new one was doing was "delaying the inevitable". He accuses you of defying fate and usurping your purpose, but he himself was doing the same instead.
I don't know. like I said, this kind of stuff makes me think.
It is right to have questions for games like these. It is by design. So don't worry about it when they purposefully make it convoluted.
Also I had another part in the post, the point is if you apply DD1 setting then DD2 doesn't make sense. Because DD2 is treated as soft-reboot, a lot of things as you said is different.
It is more likely the existence of Gransy is as a reference or Easten Egg, that it in some way existed in that alt world as well. So long ago that they are now even at sea floor. Like, the loading screen said the Vermund kingdom is founded 1000 years ago. So that.
Well, that is plot holes they did not go into. Just like "the other one" in DD1. Why NG+ of DD1 reset is not well explained, but can kind of relay to being inside of ring loop, a cycle. But at least, we as player replaced as the Seneschal, that is sorts of a continuity.
While, in DD2 by defeating Pathfinder we delivered the world into a 'true world' state. Even brine is gone. And NG+ now is a game function to carry over items and stats, but effectively a brand new game storywise.
What make you think DD2 implied that there is a cycle of seneschal tho? Because from my understanding there is not a real cycle like that, but only a fake one that is under Pathfinder.
But yea, it is a good thing a game give you questions like these. I rather not spoil your own thoughts.