PSA to all who want their pawns hired or care about player control - Don't get Logistician

[Ponyeater]

It's been a few weeks, but if there is anyone here still starting out or taking it slow, heed this warning:

Don't pick Logistician when you unlock it as pawn inclination. It's incredibly detrimental.

1) It will constantly craft certain items when available. But multiple items have multiple craft upgrades, so you may not get to see some of them as the pawn uses up all the items available for crafting the moment you find them.

2) For this reason, Logistician is also one of the least liked Inclinations among experienced players, they will never hire your pawn if it has Logistician on it. Useful secondary inclinations are Forager, Woodland Wordsmith, Hawker and under special circumstances Chirurgeon.

TL;DR: Logistician is as useful as Dragon Dogma's 1 "Nexus" inclination and an absolute noobtrap. Avoid.
Bonus: Simple inclination behaves like Dragon's Dogma 1 Aquisitor and is also to be avoided, as your pawn will loot in combat and be generally useless.

[Hyrind]

Speak for yourself, I love Simple pawns. The less I have to go around looting things, the better. It's great on a tank or melee dps type.

[Ponyeater]

Originally posted by Hyrind:

Speak for yourself, I love Simple pawns. The less I have to go around looting things, the better. It's great on a tank or melee dps type.

I am speaking for myself. Also, not going to hire your pawn. Ever.

[glenn3e]

You’re hating on Logistician but recommending Hawker? I hire Logisticians all the time, even through Unmoored. None of the inclinations are really mandatory anyway

[Maltsi]

Logistician is indeed horrible for the reasons you listed, but so is hawker. i don't know why you would recommend that. It is absolute ♥♥♥♥, worse than logistician. On paper it sounds great, but in practice its bad because it sells random stuff from your inventory. It sold all of my crafting materials, potions and half of the curative materials. Since then never touching that again

[The 5th Seraph]

Originally posted by Ponyeater:

TL;DR: Logistician is as useful as Dragon Dogma's 1 "Nexus" inclination and an absolute noobtrap. Avoid.

Nexus was fine in DD1. Miles better than Guardian. Tons of fools ended up with Guardian pawns, and they were completely useless because they'd cling to the Arisen all the time and never fight anything more than a few steps away.
Nexus wasn't particularly useful, but it wasn't an active liability like Guardian was.

[Draescan]

Originally posted by Ponyeater:

Originally posted by Hyrind:

Speak for yourself, I love Simple pawns. The less I have to go around looting things, the better. It's great on a tank or melee dps type.

I am speaking for myself. Also, not going to hire your pawn. Ever.

You never would have anyways, it's not a skimpy bikini mage.

[godsblade]

Did you even hire any simple pawns ?? I run with them all the time and they're perfectly normal in combat, they don't even explore as much as I expected them to
On the other hand I just had a kindhearted archer pawn stand there for several minutes narrating the entire fight while everybody else was going at it...

[Krówka]

You seem like a noobtrap as well. Simple is the best balance between actually fighting and being useful outside of battle. Never had a pawn open a chest during a fight, if anything I do it, because I tend to ignore most random encounters on ng+ and still feel like opening some chests from time to time.

[Ponyeater]

Originally posted by glenn3e:

You’re hating on Logistician but recommending Hawker? I hire Logisticians all the time, even through Unmoored. None of the inclinations are really mandatory anyway

It's leagues above logistician. Anything is, including not having a secondary inclination. Logistician will mess up your inventory and stock.
Can't believe there is Logisitician Loyalists defending this waste of an inclination slot.
You have hereby been visited by the spooky 99 Saburous Drought stack!
Saburous Draughts will waterboard you in your nightmares tonight, unless you immediately excuse yourself and type 5 times "Logisitician is a bad inclination and I feel bad for using it".

Originally posted by Maltsi:

Logistician is indeed horrible for the reasons you listed, but so is hawker. i don't know why you would recommend that. It is absolute ♥♥♥♥, worse than logistician. On paper it sounds great, but in practice its bad because it sells random stuff from your inventory. It sold all of my crafting materials, potions and half of the curative materials. Since then never touching that again

I don't really recommend Hawker, I'm saying it's a better pick than Logistician because you can get some use out of it without your inventory being messed up. I mainly used Chirurgeon and then Forager.

Originally posted by Draescan:

Originally posted by Ponyeater:

I am speaking for myself. Also, not going to hire your pawn. Ever.

You never would have anyways, it's not a skimpy bikini mage.

I like my pawns like my cheese - Thickly packaged and protected against all forms of mold and damage.

Originally posted by 1545242564528:

i don't like that my pawn is being hired, the less it's hired the better. but that's just me oc.

Your pawn looks interesting, I think I will hire it.

Originally posted by Krówka:

You seem like a noobtrap as well. Simple is the best balance between actually fighting and being useful outside of battle. Never had a pawn open a chest during a fight, if anything I do it, because I tend to ignore most random encounters on ng+ and still feel like opening some chests from time to time.

I've loaned a pawn forever from a friend because I like the skills on her and the voice, but I have stopped counting the times my main pawn said "What are you doing?! We're in the middle of combat!" as this pawn with the simple inclination runs off and scavenges some rubble.

[jerrypocalypse]

Agree with your take on the Logistician specialization - it really sucks to have a pawn use up all of your greenwarish and fresh fruits when you're waiting for them to ripen first.

But I disagree with your take on the Simple inclination. I've been using Simple for my main and he loots in combat about as much as any other pawn I hire with other inclinations, and he does a fantastic job in combat. In fact, I've noticed him running around the area gathering everything *after* the fight is over.

[Edelgris]

I find Simple inclination to be great. My pawn doesn't loot in combat with Simple. It is certainly not "generally useless". In fact, I have tried all the inclinations for my sorcerer pawn and Simple was the best one.

[Muite]

Logician is amazing, it prevents your food from rotting, most if not all my material that's about to rot from "aged" gets combined into dried products or potions if the plants are about to wilt. And having potions sells better than raw materials anyways.

It doesn't constantly craft all your crap; it prioritizes crafting things that are about to expire.
I had a 40 set of aged meat that was about to expire crafted into 20 sets of dried meat. Why would I want 40 rotten wasted meat?

[Monk]

Logistisian is horrible, but hawker is just as bad, be careful what potions are on your pawn with chirugeon also, nothing like seeing them loot an all heal only to see they have used it....

[Shift]

Hawker is actually worse than logistician. TBF, all inclinations are useless in a sense:
- Chirurgeon: Keeps wasting potions for barely a scratch.
- Forager: Heh? Why would I want to know where to find another batch of gold ore?
- Logistician: Keep wasting materials with useless combinations.
- Woodland Wordsmith: Only useful at a single area.
- Hawker: Only work when you're at red weight and you risk selling unwanted things if you use the default bulk sell function.
- Aphonite: Just a shut up button.

[jerrypocalypse]

Originally posted by Muite:

Logician is amazing, it prevents your food from rotting, most if not all my material that's about to rot from "aged" gets combined into dried products or potions if the plants are about to wilt. And having potions sells better than raw materials anyways.

It doesn't constantly craft all your crap; it prioritizes crafting things that are about to expire.
I had a 40 set of aged meat that was about to expire crafted into 20 sets of dried meat. Why would I want 40 rotten wasted meat?

That definitely wasn't my experience. I hired a pawn and didn't notice they had Logistician, they *immediately* crafted 30-some salubrious brews using all my fresh fruit. When I say immediately, I mean within seconds of hiring them.