Entering border checkpoint without beast mask.

[Nik-Naks]

I just noticed something cool.

Spending time in the city you will notice this strange character following you around and get confronting him as a quest. And he will then start running whenever you move towards him. If you capture this guy, he will say "let bygones be bygones ey?" and offer some gold for his release.

I did not do this the first time, so then we started fighting and i killed him.. This lead to me having to get a copy from someone else who was a beastren.. Forcing me to buy the beast mask to get in..

BUT there is another way...

I did this quest again.. And this time i lifted him up and ran around with him during the fight instead of killing him. Then the guards came and took him into prison. He had the entry permit on him. But this time it was for humans and not for Beastren.

So by not killing him outright, you get more quests and quest rewards, and also a note so you don't have to waste any money on getting the mask for later.

[|Pipe Dreams]

You can also not do this and take the coastline. Although you will face multiple mini-bosses and will probably lose your Pawns due to ledges. Still fun.

IIRC you will need to fight a Dragon.

[AvG]

The easiest method to gain free access as anyone.
Hop on carriage top as it goes between the gates, immediately run to southern city avoiding enemies if you can't handle them yet. Look for a cat lady that will sell you a house for 30k. Included in this is a residential permit. The game doesn't mention it much but you can use the residential permit to open the gates at any time instead of the diplomacy pass.

[Devitancotia]

I was wondering why I just got past with the permit, meanwhile there is mask seems suspiciously related never used. Turns out to be this little side quest. Good to notice.

[Arthur Morrigan]

Originally posted by AvG:

The easiest method to gain free access as anyone.
Hop on carriage top as it goes between the gates, immediately run to southern city avoiding enemies if you can't handle them yet. Look for a cat lady that will sell you a house for 30k. Included in this is a residential permit. The game doesn't mention it much but you can use the residential permit to open the gates at any time instead of the diplomacy pass.

I bought this house and never got a residential permit.

[Nik-Naks]

Originally posted by Devitancotia:

I was wondering why I just got past with the permit, meanwhile there is mask seems suspiciously related never used. Turns out to be this little side quest. Good to notice.

I will have to get the mask to buy the flasks for Warfarer anyways eventually. But getting the permit this way was such a cool treat.

If i remember it correctly, by killing him, we didn't get as much info out of him and that eventually leads us to the border where we have to find someone that would sell us this, and he happens to be Beastren.

[AvG]

Originally posted by Mayhap:

Originally posted by AvG:

The easiest method to gain free access as anyone.
Hop on carriage top as it goes between the gates, immediately run to southern city avoiding enemies if you can't handle them yet. Look for a cat lady that will sell you a house for 30k. Included in this is a residential permit. The game doesn't mention it much but you can use the residential permit to open the gates at any time instead of the diplomacy pass.

I bought this house and never got a residential permit.

my bad, i forgot it requires one step further, a quest series from the queen i think, you get it from Ser Menella.

[Devitancotia]

Originally posted by Saicko:

I will have to get the mask to buy the flasks for Warfarer anyways eventually. But getting the permit this way was such a cool treat.

wait, so there is also other use of the mask? By buying you mean the guy walk up to you offering the drink?

[Nik-Naks]

Originally posted by Devitancotia:

Originally posted by Saicko:

I will have to get the mask to buy the flasks for Warfarer anyways eventually. But getting the permit this way was such a cool treat.

wait, so there is also other use of the mask? By buying you mean the guy walk up to you offering the drink?

Yeah, if you do it the first way, you get two uses for the mask.

One is having to use it every time you want to cross the border. Without the mask you aren't allowed in. Until you get an upgraded permit later. (i think as you reach bakthall you can get a contract to be allowed into the city. Once you get this you can just throw away the beast contract thingy.)

And then there is a hidden quest to get a bunch of Newt Liqueur. To buy these you need to wear the beast mask and throw a stack of flour or something into a pen.
And you need 3 to open up the wayfarer classes later.

Do not try to do this without being a beast or it will lock you out of getting it.

[River]

Originally posted by Mayhap:

I bought this house and never got a residential permit.

You also get the permit when you speak to Menella as part of the main story. You don't get two.

[Devitancotia]

Originally posted by Saicko:

Originally posted by Devitancotia:

wait, so there is also other use of the mask? By buying you mean the guy walk up to you offering the drink?

To buy these you need to wear the beast mask and throw a stack of flour or something into a pen.

Well, I find it interesting seems like the game still has little details like these.

For me I never did that, there was just this dude, a human, sometimes walks to me as I run by, and offer to sell that liquid. And I bought from him like 3 times.

good to know!

[M]

Originally posted by |Pipe Dreams:

You can also not do this and take the coastline. Although you will face multiple mini-bosses and will probably lose your Pawns due to ledges. Still fun.

IIRC you will need to fight a Dragon.

I found this route and it was a far more amazing adventure than i was expecting.

[Nik-Naks]

Originally posted by Devitancotia:

Originally posted by Saicko:

To buy these you need to wear the beast mask and throw a stack of flour or something into a pen.

Well, I find it interesting seems like the game still has little details like these.

For me I never did that, there was just this dude, a human, sometimes walks to me as I run by, and offer to sell that liquid. And I bought from him like 3 times.

good to know!

Yeah it's really cool.

[|Pipe Dreams]

Originally posted by M:

Originally posted by |Pipe Dreams:

You can also not do this and take the coastline. Although you will face multiple mini-bosses and will probably lose your Pawns due to ledges. Still fun.

IIRC you will need to fight a Dragon.

I found this route and it was a far more amazing adventure than i was expecting.

It was definitely a fun experience. You also get to learn how to use Wyrmcrystals and learn a little backstory on the Arisen. You also learn to hate the owls because they pick you up and drop you into the ocean like a bunch of seaguls dropping muscles on a dock.

[At@At]

Originally posted by Saicko:

I just noticed something cool.

Spending time in the city you will notice this strange character following you around and get confronting him as a quest. And he will then start running whenever you move towards him. If you capture this guy, he will say "let bygones be bygones ey?" and offer some gold for his release.

I did not do this the first time, so then we started fighting and i killed him.. This lead to me having to get a copy from someone else who was a beastren.. Forcing me to buy the beast mask to get in..

BUT there is another way...

I did this quest again.. And this time i lifted him up and ran around with him during the fight instead of killing him. Then the guards came and took him into prison. He had the entry permit on him. But this time it was for humans and not for Beastren.

So by not killing him outright, you get more quests and quest rewards, and also a note so you don't have to waste any money on getting the mask for later.

You can kill him? I accidentally found him behind me in the capital, while doing a different quest in the slums at night. I ignored his bribe, beat him to no hp and dialogue interrupted me killing him.

[Mesond]

Originally posted by Saicko:

I just noticed something cool.

Spending time in the city you will notice this strange character following you around and get confronting him as a quest. And he will then start running whenever you move towards him. If you capture this guy, he will say "let bygones be bygones ey?" and offer some gold for his release.

I did not do this the first time, so then we started fighting and i killed him.. This lead to me having to get a copy from someone else who was a beastren.. Forcing me to buy the beast mask to get in..

BUT there is another way...

I did this quest again.. And this time i lifted him up and ran around with him during the fight instead of killing him. Then the guards came and took him into prison. He had the entry permit on him. But this time it was for humans and not for Beastren.

So by not killing him outright, you get more quests and quest rewards, and also a note so you don't have to waste any money on getting the mask for later.

This is exactly why people play the game over and over even if the game has its flaws. Multiple ways to do things. The question is how many quests are like this?

DD1 had that quest with the girl and the statue. That can go a number of ways.

In DD1 there's also that dark knight (forget his name). You can follow him. You can attack him when he fights that female knight. And then you can use a wakestone to revive him after. Where he's then in prison for the player to talk too.

Details like this really brings a game to life.