I Beat The Game Totally On Accident (spoilers)

[The Silver One]

I was doing quests from the guard captain when he told me to go to the other country, so I did. There i encountered quests for some mage about the crystals, so I thought, "hey that false Arisen is using that, this must be a continuation to find a way to thwart him!".
A few quests in, I'm chasing the mage then boom, dragon and end of game ( got the true ending cause the ghost guy kept sending me to fight him repeatedly so i looked it up, obviously confused).
This questline or lack of any warning was absolutely a poor decision.
Lore wise we as Arisen, we are to seek out the dragon. Yet out of no where he shows up and basically says "fight me or give up, decide now!"
Very poorly done.

[VeraelHasta]

Uh, so you did the quest chain, that continues the main story and are surprised it leads to the end of the game?
I mean, okay, maybe you didn't expect it to end at this point but it is on you for randomly continuuing the main quest without noticing.

Lore wise you have to face the dragon when you meet him, this is how Arisen work.

[MeldinX2]

Well Op has a point that it happens very suddenly. It kind of feels like you are maybe half-way done with the story and the dragon shows up and BOOM the end.

[SadPlatty©]

There was a warning - you just didn't read.

Captain Brant when you go to do the Coronation quite literally tells you "If you've aught to do, you should do it first", because that is the first lock-out window.

I myself haven't done any of the Battahl stuff beyond talking to the NPC when you first get into Bakbattahl, so I can't speak to the second one (is when your asked to give crystals from what I have heard though).

Otherwise - I don't really see how doing only main missions is accidentally beating the game?

[Krieger]

The story in this game is very, very poor. Nothing you do in this game pays off. We spend most of the game trying to thwart the Queenregent and Phaesus, but in the end both of them achieve what they set out to do. (Phaesus fails in the end but not because of our actions).

[Warl]

happened to me the same way, really poor gamedesign and lack of content

[The Silver One]

Originally posted by SadPlatty©:

There was a warning - you just didn't read.

Captain Brant when you go to do the Coronation quite literally tells you "If you've aught to do, you should do it first", because that is the first lock-out window.

I myself haven't done any of the Battahl stuff beyond talking to the NPC when you first get into Bakbattahl, so I can't speak to the second one (is when your asked to give crystals from what I have heard though).

Otherwise - I don't really see how doing only main missions is accidentally beating the game?

I never got a coronation. i was never crowned, so i didnt receive a message.

[The Silver One]

Originally posted by VeraelHasta:

Uh, so you did the quest chain, that continues the main story and are surprised it leads to the end of the game?
I mean, okay, maybe you didn't expect it to end at this point but it is on you for randomly continuuing the main quest without noticing.

Lore wise you have to face the dragon when you meet him, this is how Arisen work.

I was investigating a crystal, not chasing after the dragon to slay it. I would say it is surprising to fight THE dragon when I was investigating a way to stop the false Arisen and not the dragon.

[Zeel Ara]

Yea it definitely feels like they ran out of time and had to cut out the last half of the story. The end comes *very* abruptly. The majority of setups never gets a payoff and most of the conflicts never get a resolution.

Hilariously the end speech of the game arrogantly preaches what "good" storytelling is. I am not in the category of people who hates the game, I actually quite enjoyed it, but that moment made me groan out loud. If you, as a storyteller, want to be pretentious and self-satisfied then you at the very least need to have a grasp of the fundamentals.

[Adahn]

I don't even think that they ran out of budget and had to cut out like half of the story because even the first act has the entire coronation confrontation cut out. They didn't even get around to writing the first act which to me doesn't seem like a lack of budget/time but rather an issue with the writers/director not knowing what to actually write or how to do it.

[Nepnep]

Originally posted by Ratley:

Yea it definitely feels like they ran out of time and had to cut out the last half of the story. The end comes *very* abruptly. The majority of setups never gets a payoff and most of the conflicts never get a resolution.

Hilariously the end speech of the game arrogantly preaches what "good" storytelling is. I am not in the category of people who hates the game, I actually quite enjoyed it, but that moment made me groan out loud. If you, as a storyteller, want to be pretentious and self-satisfied then you at the very least need to have a grasp of the fundamentals.

All the more reason to stab him

Jokes aside the plot is basically "God playing house. When the house broke he threw a tantrum and then got stabbed"

Yep. The plot sux.

[Zeel Ara]

Originally posted by Adahn:

I don't even think that they ran out of budget and had to cut out like half of the story because even the first act has the entire coronation confrontation cut out. They didn't even get around to writing the first act which to me doesn't seem like a lack of budget/time but rather an issue with the writers/director not knowing what to actually write or how to do it.

I don't necessarily disagree, but we don't have a way to know if all the story is lying around in script form. It could absolutely have been written, and written well, and then some producer decided to not spend the amount of resources it would take to actually implement said story.

But they could also just be bad storytellers, that is another possibility. My point is that we don't have the information required to draw that conclusion. We can observe that the end result is... erm... questionable, but that is about it.

[Nox]

The plot is basically :

Fetch quests to uncover a very petty plot by people doomed to fail as you are the actual arisen and will be a demigod by the time they are spun up. You could simply walk through a bath of blood and sit on your throne, nobody could even slow you down.

A grand conspiracy of black magic and sorcery that will fail even without your intervention.

A very abrupt confrontation and some very failed attempts at "From Software" style ambiguity that just lead to fragile and arbitrary quests that either break, require detailed walk throughs to avoid them breaking or to complete, and whose steps are sometimes completely inconsistent and inexplicable.

One quest requires you to put on a specific clothing item and put a random world object into an otherwise unmarked area. Not kidding. Nothing to indicate that is related to the quest.

I enjoyed the game but the writing and design is awful.

[D. Flame]

Originally posted by VeraelHasta:

Uh, so you did the quest chain, that continues the main story and are surprised it leads to the end of the game?
I mean, okay, maybe you didn't expect it to end at this point but it is on you for randomly continuuing the main quest without noticing.

Lore wise you have to face the dragon when you meet him, this is how Arisen work.

So if the escalation is from 1 to 10, no one expect it to go: "1, 2, 3, 4, 9, 10."

And no, you don't have to face the dragon when you meet him. In the first ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ game, he shows up, squishes a one-eyed little person, calls you weak, then flies off. Did you even play it?

[JLMetaMix]

This game is a Bait, Its Bare minimum enough to be a decent game. But looking back for $100 dollars on the quest and content that the game Gives. Not worth.

[VoiD]

Originally posted by Krieger:

The story in this game is very, very poor. Nothing you do in this game pays off. We spend most of the game trying to thwart the Queenregent and Phaesus, but in the end both of them achieve what they set out to do. (Phaesus fails in the end but not because of our actions).

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think that's precisely the point of the story.

It's a luciferan arc, you're fighting god, the grand design, you're trying to stop being a puppet.

Your destiny was to fight the dragon, slay it, and become sovereign, accepting the glory granted to you would mean you accomplished nothing, it was accomplished for you, that's precisely the issue Rothan had with the whole thing, and the reason he stuck around as a ghost for ages, refusing to just leave.

Throwing away the political squables, the throne, your mission was your true victory, it meant you took control of your life back, even if it ended in ruins, your own pawn also has a similar awakening, when it's free from the great will's, and your own control, it helps you in the end because it wants to, not because it has to, and it doesn't just go berserk from the dragon's plague.