How do I get The Phantom Oxcart to trigger?

[HNTR]

I tried everything I could find already and I'm way past Nation Of The Lambent Flame (at the last step of A New Godsway). However I haven't heard any npc at the oxcart station talk about a rumor. Is it potentionally bugged for me? I've seen the cart in the open world several times and I tried unequipping everything and following it while letting my pawns wait in the distance but it always disappears after a while.

[Nepnep]

In my NG+ I got the Phantom Oxcart conversation to trigger at night in Vernworth oxcart station (the one to checkpoint).

In my first playthrough, I forgot what I did but Wilhemina told me about it.

[Jjp7123]

Wait on a bench to pass the time instead of resting at an inn. Wait for sunset because the cart spawns at sunset, not mid night time.

[HNTR]

Originally posted by Jjp7123:

Wait on a bench to pass the time instead of resting at an inn. Wait for sunset because the cart spawns at sunset, not mid night time.

That's what I did but there was nothing spawned. According to reddit I'd have to be at the north station which I was but nothing happened after 30 minutes.

Originally posted by Nepnep:

In my NG+ I got the Phantom Oxcart conversation to trigger at night in Vernworth oxcart station (the one to checkpoint).

In my first playthrough, I forgot what I did but Wilhemina told me about it.

Where is she when you already did all quests for her?

[HNTR]

I found the spawn point of the cart but it always disappears when it gets close to monsters. On one try I got the driver standing on the road and I could talk to him but he said he isn't taking passengers.
What the hell can I do to properly trigger this quest? The NPCs won't talk about any rumors. Willhelmina is gone and doing anything else doesn't work. Is anyone here having the same issue? I have uneqipped everything including rings and all pawns are dismissed.

[HNTR]

Originally posted by ⓀⒾⓦⒾ‰:

you have to camp until night at the nearby campsite then run to the intersection
make your pawns wait before you get too close and unequip everything
then walk up to the wagon and pretend youre a pawn and you go for a ride to the checkpoint town where you get into a fistfight and pick up a quest item to take back to town

So does that work if you haven't gotten the quest in your journal yet? A post on reddit said you'd have to rest at an inn, then go to the bench at the oxcart station and doze off twice, wait 5 minutes and then go there which I did but it seems to disappear after a while and no cutscene is triggered as should be.

[Nepnep]

Originally posted by HNTR:

Originally posted by Jjp7123:

Wait on a bench to pass the time instead of resting at an inn. Wait for sunset because the cart spawns at sunset, not mid night time.

That's what I did but there was nothing spawned. According to reddit I'd have to be at the north station which I was but nothing happened after 30 minutes.

Originally posted by Nepnep:

In my NG+ I got the Phantom Oxcart conversation to trigger at night in Vernworth oxcart station (the one to checkpoint).

In my first playthrough, I forgot what I did but Wilhemina told me about it.

Where is she when you already did all quests for her?

My first playthrough I got it before I did any of her quest. So she was basically where she always was. She wouldn't give me her own quest until Phantom Oxcart was done.

Also I'm pretty sure the phantom oxcart doesn't appear in the overworld until the quest actually starts. It doesn't move around either.

[Wiegs]

I had a random soldier NPC talk to me about it in the tavern when i was going to check up on Brant

[HNTR]

Originally posted by Nepnep:

Originally posted by HNTR:

That's what I did but there was nothing spawned. According to reddit I'd have to be at the north station which I was but nothing happened after 30 minutes.



Where is she when you already did all quests for her?

My first playthrough I got it before I did any of her quest. So she was basically where she always was. She wouldn't give me her own quest until Phantom Oxcart was done.

Also I'm pretty sure the phantom oxcart doesn't appear in the overworld until the quest actually starts. It doesn't move around either.

Mhh well, then it seems bugged for me because it definitely appears occasionally in the world and I can't seem to get the two NPCs who talk about it to trigger the dialogue. Don't want to kill them and waste a stone on them. Maybe I'll get this one done in NG+.
Is NG+ like in Dark Souls /Elden Ring where difficulty gets harder? Also do I have to find all 220 Seeker's Tokens again if I initiate NG+? I'm a completionist and also some of these items you get as a reward can come in handy to have a second time. I don't know if forgeries of these items work the same way or if they are like the "ferristones" for example.

[Lepakko]

For me i saw the phantom oxcart multiple times before i got the quest. I got the quest from random npc chatter what my character hear at Oxcart stop at capital. I hear you can get the quest at from lady npc too. I got it done after i was part of quest to go marked location at night. After you followed the solders who tried flee. You get 2nd part where you need to go same spot but you need to remove all gear. Then the quest continue.

[HNTR]

Originally posted by Lepakko:

For me i saw the phantom oxcart multiple times before i got the quest. I got the quest from random npc chatter what my character hear at Oxcart stop at capital. I hear you can get the quest at from lady npc too. I got it done after i was part of quest to go marked location at night. After you followed the solders who tried flee. You get 2nd part where you need to go same spot but you need to remove all gear. Then the quest continue.

That's what I never got. Maybe I skipped it because I did another quest in Bathal and didn't immediatly return to Vermund.

[D. Flame]

Rest in town until nightfall, then sprint to the location, take the guard's money.

Go back to town rest until nightfall. Sprint back to the area, giving it a wide berth. Stand behind it far enough that the drivers text looks blurry and out of focus when he starts talking.

Just play on your phone or something while it sits there motionless. When you hear him start talking, set down your phone, and start slowly following him. Get too close at this point and you F'ed up and the fail the mission.

If you fail, quickly exit to the main menu without saving, then continue to try again.

[HNTR]

Originally posted by ⓀⒾⓦⒾ‰:

Originally posted by HNTR:

So does that work if you haven't gotten the quest in your journal yet? A post on reddit said you'd have to rest at an inn, then go to the bench at the oxcart station and doze off twice, wait 5 minutes and then go there which I did but it seems to disappear after a while and no cutscene is triggered as should be.

uh, this is the second part. there is a first stage i thought you had already done

1; loiter around the oxcart in vernmoth to overhear a conversation between the driver and another npc. you can wait on the bench or use the oxcart signpost to pass time and trigger it if its not already happening. they just talk to eachother abut it and the quest gets added automatically from eavesdropping

2; camp at the campsite nearest the quest marker road intersection until night then run to it but stop before you get there. a npc will be talking to the driver, they freak out and try to run away you have to run after the npc and tackle them and question them

3; go back to town and talk to the guy about it

4; do what i posted in that spoiler bit

I was loitering for like almost 2 hours real time and the dialogue never triggered. I guess that's the real issue with this quest. Something must have glitched in my game.

[Brynub]

if you already gave the 15 wyrmcrystals to Ambrosius you probably locked yourself out of even starting the quest like I did on my first playthrough. Just like how the coronation event locks out quests like Readvent of Calamity, turning in the 15 wyrmcrystals seems to lock out other quests

Go back to Vernworth immediately after finishing the first Battahl quest (Lambent Flame or whatever) on your NG+ run and you should get the scene at the western oxcart station at night.

[HNTR]

Originally posted by NubChaos:

if you already gave the 15 wyrmcrystals to Ambrosius you probably locked yourself out of even starting the quest like I did on my first playthrough. Just like how the coronation event locks out quests like Readvent of Calamity, turning in the 15 wyrmcrystals seems to lock out other quests

Go back to Vernworth immediately after finishing the first Battahl quest (Lambent Flame or whatever) on your NG+ run and you should get the scene at the western oxcart station at night.

Yeah, I tested it and progressed to the point of no return after Talos. The NPCs at the cart station are now missing. Seems like I have to do this in NG+. That would be the last achievement then for me.

[jyn]

if you go to find the ox cart for the first time and the flesh merchant and the row of pawns are standing idle and the next stage of the quest is not triggering - go to the morgue and resurrect Navil. he's the dirty soldier the flesh merchant is waiting on