Dragon's Dogma 2

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VoiD Apr 2, 2024 @ 8:20pm
Do elemental weapon effects override elemental mage buffs?
Just wondering.

If it does it would be optimal to use pure physical damage weapons if you have a mage, wouldn't it?

Also, is there any bonus damage? If there is, is the bonus damage based off the weapon's damage, or the mage's magic stat?
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Magic Spazm Apr 2, 2024 @ 8:25pm 
I want to know the answer as well
Keldrath Apr 2, 2024 @ 8:31pm 
From what I could tell in my experience the mage enchant doesn't work on enchanted weapons so it's kinda like if you're using an elemental weapon dont bother bringing a mage with an enchant spell.
CH13F Apr 2, 2024 @ 8:32pm 
ex : one of my pawns give my daggers ice affinity but if i activate flaming daggers it overrides it.

unclear. elements adds status effects, like u might freeze target for a while or you can apply burn DoT. but game doesnt explain if an element adds extra dmg to attacks atm, we cant see which enemy is weak or strong against an element. so its hard to answer.very basic health bars and lack of dmg numbers not really helpful neither.
Last edited by CH13F; Apr 2, 2024 @ 8:33pm
VoiD Apr 2, 2024 @ 8:36pm 
Originally posted by Magic Spazm:
I want to know the answer as well
I'm kind of guessing that is the case, but I have no idea really.

Also, for elemental weapons, I noticed their magic stat isn't zero like physical ones, so I'm guessing their % is the % of magic they can apply to the damage as extras?

IE: The lightning dagger has 10% electric damage, so I'm guessing if I had 1000 magic it would deal an extra 100 elemental damage per hit, while the Almace (frost sword) has 120% frost, so with 1000 magic it should deal 1200 extra cold damage instead, but I have absolutely no idea if that's the case.

I've also noticed that if I have a warrior with the holy mace and I enchant her weapon, her mace still has the holy effect, but the shield glows in the color of the element I used to enchant her, so I have no idea if it's stacking 2 types of damage, or if it's just enchanting shield attacks as it seems like it's a different, physical weapon too.

The information in this game is rather confusing.

I'm kinda guessing, but I've invested into physical weapons for my pawn for this reason:
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3210683704
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3210683619
ID: IJQ6SA8NTA3C If anyone wants to test it with similar but elemental weapons with 2 pawns at once, I don't have the eye to properly notice where attacks hit+how much of a bar was removed with each attack, so I'm just investing in it blindly.

I'm also of the mind that fighters have way too much defense, so I prefer to look for armors with more magic defense instead, so they can tank all types of damage instead of taking no physical damage, then getting 1 shot by dragon magick, but I also don't really know the math behind defenses or if it's even worth trying to increase M.def when it's base value is so low.

Originally posted by Keldrath:
From what I could tell in my experience the mage enchant doesn't work on enchanted weapons so it's kinda like if you're using an elemental weapon dont bother bringing a mage with an enchant spell.
That's what I'm thinking too.

But I just thought of something else just now, what if the same element stacks instead of getting overriten? Would it be possible to get an ince enchant+ice daggers to nuke bosses?
Last edited by VoiD; Apr 2, 2024 @ 8:38pm
astranabeat Apr 2, 2024 @ 8:43pm 
I think mage buff will override elemental weapons. This is why if you use elemental weapons. Mage pawn won't buff you with elemental buff.

I play thief and use ice blade. My mage pawn never buff me but they will buff other pawn if they use no elemental weapon.

Damage bonus calculate from magic stat. Never test to see how much it effect but every elemental weapons almost alway has high magic stat. If magic not effect elemental damage then there is no reason for high magic stat for those weapons.
VoiD Apr 2, 2024 @ 11:11pm 
I can think of a neat party with a chirurgeon sorcerer healing the team with excess items (everybody got a ton of those) while everyone else has their own elemental weapons.

Vs

A pure physical team, probably with an archer, and with a mage buffing them with good elemental weapons
Edstyles Apr 2, 2024 @ 11:31pm 
Alot of mobs are weak to fire . But at the same time fire doesnt provide a hard CC aside maybe on gryphins . Was wondering if ice and fire damage debuff override 1 another? Or is there a demishing return so having fire and frost dont matter?

Maybe optimal elemental damage would be fire with electricity enchants for hard CC?
Last edited by Edstyles; Apr 2, 2024 @ 11:32pm
VoiD Apr 3, 2024 @ 2:17am 
Originally posted by Edstyles:
Alot of mobs are weak to fire . But at the same time fire doesnt provide a hard CC aside maybe on gryphins . Was wondering if ice and fire damage debuff override 1 another? Or is there a demishing return so having fire and frost dont matter?

Maybe optimal elemental damage would be fire with electricity enchants for hard CC?
Good question.

The ingame description shows status effects can help or hinder certain damage types.

IE: Drenched
Fire Damage attacks will deal reduced damage
Ice Damage attacks will leave you ice-bound.
Lightning Damage attacks will leave you numb

Being on fire also ends when you drench the target, but other elemental interactions are unclear, like in your example, is it even possible to freeze an enemy on fire?

Lately I've been running a team with physical weapons and/or sometimes one guy with a natural lightning weapon, then I hire a mage with frost enchants, and as an archer I carry around drenching arrows, killing bosses with permafreeze and sometimes numb is very easy.
Vlady Apr 3, 2024 @ 2:27am 
Dunno about that but if you apply different elemental buffs maybe all of them work.
Was playing as thief, my mage cast ice weapons on me and i used the flame skill (didn't hit the enemy with it, only got the buff and then started attacking), so my weapons were blazing hot, red and glowy, after a few attacks the enemy started burning, while at the same time freezing, lol
Last edited by Vlady; Apr 3, 2024 @ 2:28am
VoiD Apr 3, 2024 @ 4:50am 
Originally posted by Vlady:
Dunno about that but if you apply different elemental buffs maybe all of them work.
Was playing as thief, my mage cast ice weapons on me and i used the flame skill (didn't hit the enemy with it, only got the buff and then started attacking), so my weapons were blazing hot, red and glowy, after a few attacks the enemy started burning, while at the same time freezing, lol
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