Auto Save Causes Stuttering

[qcode_xi]

Is there anyway to disable autosave?

I have pretty much no issues with performance in general, at least in an acceptable way (cpu i9-13980HX. gpu 4090)

The main issue I have is with auto-save as it causes my game to stutter for a second or so every time the game autosave

I have tried to change the graphics settings but it doesn't seem to be the real issue,
I also moved the save location from one drive to another (both SSD)
I can't figure out the actual cause for this stuttering

Any help or ideas are much appreciated

[TylerDeSalo]

Originally posted by QCode:

Originally posted by TylerDeSalo:

I use gpu: 4090 cpu: i9 13900k and use ssd. When I play the second game, the automatic save will freeze and the loss of about 5~10fps is very annoying. I turn off "dd2 save manager" This problem also occurs when opening and closing.

Is it possible that it's caused by mods? Currently I plan to reinstall the game and give it a try

I did try to remove all mods and not using save manager, nothing changed

Please let me know if anything worked out for you?

I reinstalled DD2 to another hard drive and everything was fine.

[FortySix&2]

I can now confirm that adding config.ini to defender exception solved autosave stutter for me.

[Honey]

I'm struggling with this issue as well. It happens in every Capcom game I own that has an autosave function. The first 30 or so hours run with no issues whatsoever, and then it suddenly starts stuttering on every autosave. This has been consistent across multiple different PCs with varying amounts of space on the SSD, so for me (and I assume others as well) that's clearly not the issue. In both MHW and MHRise, setting the config.ini as an exception in Windows defender fixed the issue, but that didn't work for me with DD2. Really hoping someone can find a fix, because I can guarantee you that Capcom won't, since the problem still persists in the Monster Hunter titles.

[76561199469584644]

Have you ever used DD2 Save Manager? I suspect it is a problem with this mod.

[Boombastic]

Originally posted by 1798828555:

Have you ever used DD2 Save Manager? I suspect it is a problem with this mod.

It is not.
I'm also having this issue AFTER the patch and checked everything, including not using DD2 Save Manager and I get fps drops from normal 70-80 to 1 for 1-2 seconds when the game autosaves.

But due to the amount of saves every few seconds (if you don't configure it otherwise) it might increase the lag. But the Problem is there too without the manager.

This autosaving system is simply ridiculous. The game autosaves for every little BS, in intervals of seconds, also during the fights or just because a monster showed up. Terrible system.

[76561199469584644]

Originally posted by Boombastic:

Originally posted by 1798828555:

Have you ever used DD2 Save Manager? I suspect it is a problem with this mod.

It is not.
I'm also having this issue AFTER the patch and checked everything, including not using DD2 Save Manager and I get fps drops from normal 70-80 to 1 for 1-2 seconds when the game autosaves.

But due to the amount of saves every few seconds (if you don't configure it otherwise) it might increase the lag. But the Problem is there too without the manager.

This autosaving system is simply ridiculous. The game autosaves for every little BS, in intervals of seconds, also during the fights or just because a monster showed up. Terrible system.

I know a few friends who also experience lag when automatically saving games. The common point is that they all use dd2, so I would like to ask if everyone here has used dd2 before. Of course, I just doubt it, after all, the game will still have save lag after turning off dd2.

[Boombastic]

Originally posted by 1798828555:

Originally posted by Boombastic:

It is not.
I'm also having this issue AFTER the patch and checked everything, including not using DD2 Save Manager and I get fps drops from normal 70-80 to 1 for 1-2 seconds when the game autosaves.

But due to the amount of saves every few seconds (if you don't configure it otherwise) it might increase the lag. But the Problem is there too without the manager.

This autosaving system is simply ridiculous. The game autosaves for every little BS, in intervals of seconds, also during the fights or just because a monster showed up. Terrible system.

I know a few friends who also experience lag when automatically saving games. The common point is that they all use dd2, so I would like to ask if everyone here has used dd2 before. Of course, I just doubt it, after all, the game will still have save lag after turning off dd2.

DD2 Save Manager is not a mod, it is a manager and it doesn't interfere in the game in a way a mod does or add files to the game etc., it simply runs aside creating backup folders everytime the game autosaves (or in the intervalls you setup) instead of the normal autosave on the same file.

So if you simply don't start it, and the issue was with the manager, all problems should be gone and they are not (for me at least) and I have both game and steam installed on a M2 fast drive.

But yes, if your saves are stored on a slow drive it will increase the lag too, additionally, specially due to the rediculous frequency the game autosaves. So if you let the manager backup every single autosave you will end up with xxxxxxxx folders and the manager creating folders every few seconds.

[76561199469584644]

Originally posted by Boombastic:

Originally posted by 1798828555:

I know a few friends who also experience lag when automatically saving games. The common point is that they all use dd2, so I would like to ask if everyone here has used dd2 before. Of course, I just doubt it, after all, the game will still have save lag after turning off dd2.

DD2 Save Manager is not a mod, it is a manager and it doesn't interfere in the game in a way a mod does or add files to the game etc., it simply runs aside creating backup folders everytime the game autosaves (or in the intervalls you setup) instead of the normal autosave on the same file.

So if you simply don't start it, and the issue was with the manager, all problems should be gone and they are not (for me at least) and I have both game and steam installed on a M2 fast drive.

But yes, if your saves are stored on a slow drive it will increase the lag too, additionally, specially due to the rediculous frequency the game autosaves. So if you let the manager backup every single autosave you will end up with xxxxxxxx folders and the manager creating folders every few seconds.

bro,I made a discovery. I re-created a save with a new steam account and found that the automatic save would not be stutter. But if I use the original steam account to create a new save file, the automatic save will be stutter at the beginning of the game. Do you have any ideas?

[76561199469584644]

Guys, I found the solution. https://www.reddit.com/r/DragonsDogma/comments/1bq59mo/comment/kxckbz1/
The same thing happened to the person who posted this post. Just reinstall the game and it will work.

[qcode_xi]

Thank you to everyone who helped and give their thoughts and suggestions,

I want to confirm that deleting and re-installing the game somehow did the trick (few ppl here did mentioned that as well)

I could say that the update probably wasn't optimized so deleting the game and re-installing did actually work (or because update while mods installed)

Still, I did try to re install all my mods (extra weight, pawn function, better levitate) and it works fine as well pretty much no noticeable stutter, didn't try it with save manager tho because I'm playing the game no more, just wanted to check and confirm the re-install thing

[Boombastic]

Although I don't understand the logic in "re-installing the game does the job" because checking the files for errors if there are any errors and deleting cache etc. is the same thing , I did, among other things, move the whole game from my SSD drive to my M2 drive and this didn't fix the issue.

As I wanted to see if the problem was on my side before complaining or filing a report to the support, here the things I tried:

First off, I had no issues what so ever prior patch with exactly the same settings and mods, so something changed with the patch (easy logic). Though, to narrow the cause, I tried:

- deleted cache, disabled all mods and didn't use DD2 Save Manager -> didn't solve the issue

- file check, no errors. To be 100% sure (although stupid and not logic if steam didn't find any integrity errors), I deleted the exe file and the largest .pak files so steam redownloads it -> of course, and as to expect, this didn't fix the issue

- moved DD2 AND steam (so the saves folder would also be moved) from a already fast SSD to a even faster Firecuda 530 M2 (7.300MB/s). On such fast drive there are no such things like lag due to writing/reading routines -> didn't solve the issue either

- as a last check, I lowered all graphic settings to low (although I knew this wouldn't do anything because the fps drops only occour during autosaving and I have a normal 60-80 fps)-> of course this didn't help either

My Rig:
Asus ROC Maximus Z690 Extreme
i9-12900K @5300 MHz
DDR5-3000
3080 Ti FTW3
All watercooled

CPU/GPU load during game with all maxed at 1440p: 80-90%/99%
VRAM used: 85%, so also here no such things like "not enough VRAM"

As I said, something changed with the patch.

The ONLY logical reason I see in "reinstall the game" instead of patching it, would be that downloading the last version files would somewhow be different than letting the game be patched. But this would mean DD2 patching is done with delta patching and I don't think it is the case. The files are added and replaced.

I will try to "reinstall" the game, though, just to be sure

[Insomec]

Originally posted by Boombastic:

Although I don't understand the logic in "re-installing the game does the job" because checking the files for errors if there are any errors and deleting cache etc. is the same thing , I did, among other things, move the whole game from my SSD drive to my M2 drive and this didn't fix the issue.

As I wanted to see if the problem was on my side before complaining or filing a report to the support, here the things I tried:

First off, I had no issues what so ever prior patch with exactly the same settings and mods, so something changed with the patch (easy logic). Though, to narrow the cause, I tried:

- deleted cache, disabled all mods and didn't use DD2 Save Manager -> didn't solve the issue

- file check, no errors. To be 100% sure (although stupid and not logic if steam didn't find any integrity errors), I deleted the exe file and the largest .pak files so steam redownloads it -> of course, and as to expect, this didn't fix the issue

- moved DD2 AND steam (so the saves folder would also be moved) from a already fast SSD to a even faster Firecuda 530 M2 (7.300MB/s). On such fast drive there are no such things like lag due to writing/reading routines -> didn't solve the issue either

- as a last check, I lowered all graphic settings to low (although I knew this wouldn't do anything because the fps drops only occour during autosaving and I have a normal 60-80 fps)-> of course this didn't help either

My Rig:
Asus ROC Maximus Z690 Extreme
i9-12900K @5300 MHz
DDR5-3000
3080 Ti FTW3
All watercooled

CPU/GPU load during game with all maxed at 1440p: 80-90%/99%
VRAM used: 85%, so also here no such things like "not enough VRAM"

As I said, something changed with the patch.

The ONLY logical reason I see in "reinstall the game" instead of patching it, would be that downloading the last version files would somewhow be different than letting the game be patched. But this would mean DD2 patching is done with delta patching and I don't think it is the case. The files are added and replaced.

I will try to "reinstall" the game, though, just to be sure

All this to play a mid game, it’s insane how much faffing about people are doing just to get this game to run without issue.

[Sparhawk122]

Denuvo probably does not help.

[Boombastic]

So, here's my Update...

So, reinstalling the game indeed solved the shutters while autosaving.

I don't understand why because the file integrity issued no errors or damaged files, I don't know if Denuvo is the reason of it (I don't like to say Denuvo causes all issues), but, for whatever strange reasons it solved the issue (also after re-enabling all my mods again), and to be honest at this point I don't care and that's what matters to me.

Thanks for the suggestion!

A few remarks: after reinstalling the game, my save was not detected so I had to start a new game. Playing a few minutes until the first autosave. Quitting the game and setting my old NG+ with DD2 Save Manager as active, worked and the old save was accepted.

[qcode_xi]

Originally posted by Insomec:

Originally posted by Boombastic:

Although I don't understand the logic in "re-installing the game does the job" because checking the files for errors if there are any errors and deleting cache etc. is the same thing , I did, among other things, move the whole game from my SSD drive to my M2 drive and this didn't fix the issue.

As I wanted to see if the problem was on my side before complaining or filing a report to the support, here the things I tried:

First off, I had no issues what so ever prior patch with exactly the same settings and mods, so something changed with the patch (easy logic). Though, to narrow the cause, I tried:

- deleted cache, disabled all mods and didn't use DD2 Save Manager -> didn't solve the issue

- file check, no errors. To be 100% sure (although stupid and not logic if steam didn't find any integrity errors), I deleted the exe file and the largest .pak files so steam redownloads it -> of course, and as to expect, this didn't fix the issue

- moved DD2 AND steam (so the saves folder would also be moved) from a already fast SSD to a even faster Firecuda 530 M2 (7.300MB/s). On such fast drive there are no such things like lag due to writing/reading routines -> didn't solve the issue either

- as a last check, I lowered all graphic settings to low (although I knew this wouldn't do anything because the fps drops only occour during autosaving and I have a normal 60-80 fps)-> of course this didn't help either

My Rig:
Asus ROC Maximus Z690 Extreme
i9-12900K @5300 MHz
DDR5-3000
3080 Ti FTW3
All watercooled

CPU/GPU load during game with all maxed at 1440p: 80-90%/99%
VRAM used: 85%, so also here no such things like "not enough VRAM"

As I said, something changed with the patch.

The ONLY logical reason I see in "reinstall the game" instead of patching it, would be that downloading the last version files would somewhow be different than letting the game be patched. But this would mean DD2 patching is done with delta patching and I don't think it is the case. The files are added and replaced.

I will try to "reinstall" the game, though, just to be sure

All this to play a mid game, it’s insane how much faffing about people are doing just to get this game to run without issue.

That's why I still hate it, people shouldn't go through all this hustle just for the game to be playable, I hated how it wasted too much of my time many time trying to resolve their issues, and my most thanks goes to modders who made the game actually playable