PSA!!! UPGRADE TO WINDOWS 11 FOR BETTER PERFORMANCE!!

[mellow]

I just needed to let people know in case this works for you as well, I have a 13700k and 7900xtx and at 4k max settings with ray tracing was getting 60-80 frames in the open world and 30 in the towns now I get 144 fps in the open world and I have yet to try the town but im assuming I'll have much better results. This applied to many other games like cs2 that I play as well. I thought I had windows 10 configured to use the proper cores for games but it seems that was not the case and the switch to windows 11 lets me fully utilize my cpu.

[Silverlight]

Originally posted by Karax:

Originally posted by Silverlight:

Denuvo is just dumb paranoid so when you switch proton versions or launch variables it sees a different operating environment. That's the problem with recreating Dx functionality in a compatibility layer.


finna try this on ubuntu now oml

Uff that freaking sucks...so basically, if you're not happy with the proton version and launch variables, you're basically running that 5 times a day install...that's really crappy, why won't denuvo use something else? like mac address or hardware info...

I have no doubt that they lump linux users in with tamperers . Big tech hate us penguins . Especially nvidia

Warning: hilarious language
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RwnRsPBi88c

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Id rather stop gaming than switching to the even worse Windows 11 - i already dislike windows 10. Its sad how windows becomes more and more like android and ppl seem to not care about loosing more and more of their power over their system. Not to mention more and more data collecting for marketing and more and more bloatware and unwanted services forced in a way thats really creepy.

I mean honestly how for example Windows 10 and Windows 11 even worse try to hide offline accounts is just creepy and im sure its not about more user data to use for marketing etc. - its funny how you pay for a product that makes you the product ... - sadly its the same for games F2P mechanics are now standard in full priced games because people accepted it.

I wonder how long it will take until windows becomes a subscription.

Honestly how can people be okay with something like this:
https://www.howtogeek.com/243581/windows-10-may-delete-your-programs-without-asking/

[tankanidis]

Originally posted by ....:

Id rather stop gaming than switching to the even worse Windows 11 - i already dislike windows 10. Its sad how windows becomes more and more like android and ppl seem to not care about loosing more and more of their power over their system. Not to mention more and more data collecting for marketing and more and more bloatware and unwanted services forced in a way thats really creepy.

I mean honestly how for example Windows 10 and Windows 11 even worse try to hide offline accounts is just creepy.

I wonder how long it will take until windows becomes a subscription.

Considering all the 'telemetry' they are doing, they are probably nodding in agreement with your post right now

[Silverlight]

Originally posted by ....:

Id rather stop gaming than switching to the even worse Windows 11 - i already dislike windows 10. Its sad how windows becomes more and more like android and ppl seem to not care about loosing more and more of their power over their system. Not to mention more and more data collecting for marketing and more and more bloatware and unwanted services forced in a way thats really creepy.

I mean honestly how for example Windows 10 and Windows 11 even worse try to hide offline accounts is just creepy and im sure its not about more user data to use for marketing etc. - its funny how you pay for a product that makes you the product ... - sadly its the same for games F2P mechanics are now standard in full priced games because people accepted it.

I wonder how long it will take until windows becomes a subscription.

Almost everything inside of it already is. I'm surprised they haven't pulled the trigger yet and just renamed it Windows and charge 129.95 a year for the whole thing including gamepass and office 365

[....]

Originally posted by tankanidis:

Originally posted by ....:

Id rather stop gaming than switching to the even worse Windows 11 - i already dislike windows 10. Its sad how windows becomes more and more like android and ppl seem to not care about loosing more and more of their power over their system. Not to mention more and more data collecting for marketing and more and more bloatware and unwanted services forced in a way thats really creepy.

I mean honestly how for example Windows 10 and Windows 11 even worse try to hide offline accounts is just creepy.

I wonder how long it will take until windows becomes a subscription.

Considering all the 'telemetry' they are doing, they are probably nodding in agreement with your post right now

I m also a big fan of that:
https://www.howtogeek.com/243581/windows-10-may-delete-your-programs-without-asking/

I used for example cpu-Z and it was suddenly gone after a windows update and i had no idea what happened ... - in the early days an update also removed new gpu drivers ...

[....]

Originally posted by Silverlight:

Originally posted by ....:

Id rather stop gaming than switching to the even worse Windows 11 - i already dislike windows 10. Its sad how windows becomes more and more like android and ppl seem to not care about loosing more and more of their power over their system. Not to mention more and more data collecting for marketing and more and more bloatware and unwanted services forced in a way thats really creepy.

I mean honestly how for example Windows 10 and Windows 11 even worse try to hide offline accounts is just creepy and im sure its not about more user data to use for marketing etc. - its funny how you pay for a product that makes you the product ... - sadly its the same for games F2P mechanics are now standard in full priced games because people accepted it.

I wonder how long it will take until windows becomes a subscription.

Almost everything inside of it already is. I'm surprised they haven't pulled the trigger yet and just renamed it Windows and charge 129.95 a year for the whole thing including gamepass and office 365

I think they are still testing the limits - you can also still buy the old office as a one time purchase. They are probably scared that if they do that ppl may just stick to old Windows versions forever.

But i guess that problem will be gone once enough people switched to windows as a service - which it seems to be by now and then its easier to just make a subscription mandatory or make the free version so annoying that ppl will switch. I predict that we will have advertisments in Windows within the next 10 years - i hope im wrong.


Sadly ppl dont even seem to realize how bad all of this is - just look at the android store - you can hardly purchase apps as a one time purchase anymore and the subscriptions often are insane. And they are even trying that now in other normal markets - there actually are seat-heating subscriptions for cars now ...


At least in the future there will not be much problems with inheritance anymore since normal ppl wont own anything anymore.

[Silverlight]

Originally posted by ....:

Originally posted by Silverlight:

Almost everything inside of it already is. I'm surprised they haven't pulled the trigger yet and just renamed it Windows and charge 129.95 a year for the whole thing including gamepass and office 365

I think they are still testing the limits - you can also still buy the old office as a one time purchase. They are probably scared that if they do that ppl may just stick to old Windows versions forever.

But i guess that problem will be gone once enough people switched to windows as a service - which it seems to be by now and then its easier to just make a subscription mandatory or make the free version so annoying that ppl will switch. I predict that we will have advertisments in Windows within the next 10 years - i hope im wrong.


Sadly ppl dont even seem to realize how bad all of this is - just look at the android store - you can hardly purchase apps as a one time purchase anymore and the subscriptions often are insane. And they are even trying that now in other normal markets - there actually are seat-heating subscriptions for cars now ...

Welp, time for another flood. ~~

[....]

Originally posted by Silverlight:

Originally posted by ....:

I think they are still testing the limits - you can also still buy the old office as a one time purchase. They are probably scared that if they do that ppl may just stick to old Windows versions forever.

But i guess that problem will be gone once enough people switched to windows as a service - which it seems to be by now and then its easier to just make a subscription mandatory or make the free version so annoying that ppl will switch. I predict that we will have advertisments in Windows within the next 10 years - i hope im wrong.


Sadly ppl dont even seem to realize how bad all of this is - just look at the android store - you can hardly purchase apps as a one time purchase anymore and the subscriptions often are insane. And they are even trying that now in other normal markets - there actually are seat-heating subscriptions for cars now ...

Welp, time for another flood. ~~

Well maybe that will come in the form of proton linux. Viable user friendly OS for gaming that is free is probably the biggest threat for companies like microsoft. And thanks to Steamdeck and proton gaming on linux actually is starting to get way better.

Sadly up until now linux just wasnt a great easy expirience for people that wanted to play games with their PC but that seems to change now.

To be honest the only thing that is making me use windows is usability (which they seem to make worse with every new Windows) and beeing able to play all games. If a linux versions offer both to me i will gladly switch - i cant think of any reason besides those 2 things why i would need windows these days.

[Silverlight]

Originally posted by ....:

Originally posted by Silverlight:

Welp, time for another flood. ~~

Well maybe that will come in the form of proton linux. Viable user friendly OS for gaming that is free is probably the biggest threat for companies like microsoft. And thanks to Steamdeck and proton gaming on linux actually is starting to get way better.

Sadly up until now linux just wasnt a great easy expirience for people that wanted to play games with their PC but that seems to change now.

To be honest the only thing that is making me use windows is usability (which they seem to make worse with every new Windows) and beeing able to play all games. If a linux versions offer both to me i will gladly switch - i cant think of any reason besides those 2 things why i would need windows these days.

I've just made my peace with the games I cant play and decided that if they don't want to be on Linux then i dont trust them.
The only games that proton hard denies are games with incompatible anti-cheat settings.
examples: destiny 2 , fortnite, call of duty , battlefield , valorant , PUBG

it's like... oh? those games are anti-consumer? pikachu face*

Helldivers 2 got a Proton passthrough within days for the anticheat and now we divin for democracy.

[Sham!]

upgrade to an even bigger resource hog of an os to play the game better lol

[D. Flame]

Originally posted by -|Nur|-:

Originally posted by D. Flame:

Whenever they stop supporting Win 10, I am moving to Linux.

You 100% won't.

I 100% will. I already built an entry level PC and ran Linux Mint of it. I also own and play the Steam Deck, which is Linux.

The only thing that I use that doesn't work on Linux is CSP.

[alrik1119]

keeps crashing on startup on my new high performance windows 11 24 inch screen 2023 manufactured fresh new out of the box amd ryzen 2023 version processor desktop computer pc and all other of my current steam games run very decently on it on low settings.

[Edelgris]

Originally posted by -|Nur|-:

Originally posted by D. Flame:

Whenever they stop supporting Win 10, I am moving to Linux.

You 100% won't.

I already have. Now I use Linux 95% of the time and Windows 10 5% of the time. 10 is a nice round number to quit on.

[gnome_chomski]

Originally posted by Kashra Fall:

You're getting better performance, because your CPU is designed to use E-cores. You can't use E cores with Win 10, it's a Win 11 features, but it also requires a specific motherboard chip. Welcome to the new age. Where a 8 core, turns into a 24 core (E cores.) lol.

This isn't the case anymore -- Windows 11 definitely isn't required for hybrid CPU utilization. (Though this might have been true for certain games or with certain configurations at some point.)

Windows 10 has always been able to support hybrid CPU architecture, and over the past year or so they've backported the rest of Windows 11's Thread Director functionality to Windows 10.

In recent testing, Elden Ring (one of the worst offenders) now performs identically between W10 and W11: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6MY-HHNMOFI

[gnome_chomski]

And as an addendum to the last post, if you have a hybrid CPU you can also juice some further performance by using Powershell to instruct Windows 10 always prefer using performance cores over efficiency cores:


Run PowerShell as administrator and enter these 3 commands:

powercfg -attributes SUB_PROCESSOR 7f2f5cfa-f10c-4823-b5e1-e93ae85f46b5 -ATTRIB_HIDE

powercfg -attributes SUB_PROCESSOR 93b8b6dc-0698-4d1c-9ee4-0644e900c85d -ATTRIB_HIDE

powercfg -attributes SUB_PROCESSOR bae08b81-2d5e-4688-ad6a-13243356654b -ATTRIB_HIDE

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Then, in your Windows power plan settings, you'll see the following additional options appear for the processor status:

Heterogeneous policy is applied -- set to "0 heterogeneous chain"

Scheduling policy -- set to "prefer high-performance processors"



Hope this helps you on your journey, Arisen.