Clarification on Pawn learning

[justfaded]

The first game was BS, right? Pawns don't learn through gameplay with you, right? Was that ever confirmed?

Do people think that system is in place for the sequel?

[Hellfire77]

No the pawns learn when with you and take it back to whoever's pawn it is. My main pawn has pointed out several things I would have missed because other people have found with her in their party.

[Forblaze]

There are knowledge flags that they unlock that allows them to perform certain functions. When you see a pawn say "Wow I've never seen that tactic before," that's them unlocking a knowledge flag and they'll hypothetically try to take advantage of it in the future.

So they'll learn that a griffin is weak to fire or that a cyclops can fall and make a temporary bridge, but they won't learn specific strategies or personal behaviors.

[Kashra Fall]

Pawns definitely learn tactics as you play, when you do something they aren't used to.

Pinning down enemies.
Throwing enemies off cliffs.
Throwing enemies at one another (Rock scales) "It's armor is hard as stone! Such an enemy is best thrown at other enemies."
etc.

They will also learn not to jump off cliffs if you don't do it lol. You can really tell what players face plant, by what their panws do.

For the record, there is an audio cue when they learn something they didn't know.

"Tis a sound strategy masta, I would of never of thought of that! I will have to inform my own master." To which your pawn will say "Truly!?" or something of similarity based on their inclination.

[justfaded]

Originally posted by Kashra Fall:

Pawns definitely learn tactics as you play, when you do something they aren't used to.

Pinning down enemies.
Throwing enemies off cliffs.
Throwing enemies at one another (Rock scales) "It's armor is hard as stone! Such an enemy is best thrown at other enemies."
etc.

They will also learn not to jump off cliffs if you don't do it lol. You can really tell what players face plant, by what their panws do.

For the record, there is an audio cue when they learn something they didn't know.

"Tis a sound strategy masta, I would of never of thought of that! I will have to inform my own master." To which your pawn will say "Truly!?" or something of similarity based on their inclination.

That's the stuff I'm talking about. People thought that was true for the first game too but I think the general consensus ended up being that it was BS.

Pawns pin enemies on their own, they don't need to learn it. I guarantee someone playing completely offline or without renting Pawns will see their maim Pawn doing all those things on their own.

[Vinnolo]

pawns pinning enemies depends mostly on their inclination, have seen from fighters to mages that just go rabid when they see a goblin 15 meters away and they sprint to pin it down

[Forblaze]

Originally posted by justfaded:

That's the stuff I'm talking about. People thought that was true for the first game too but I think the general consensus ended up being that it was BS.

The knowledge system was real, people just had grandiose ideas of what pawns were capable of learning and that was what was BS.

[Digibluez]

Originally posted by justfaded:

Originally posted by Kashra Fall:

Pawns definitely learn tactics as you play, when you do something they aren't used to.

Pinning down enemies.
Throwing enemies off cliffs.
Throwing enemies at one another (Rock scales) "It's armor is hard as stone! Such an enemy is best thrown at other enemies."
etc.

They will also learn not to jump off cliffs if you don't do it lol. You can really tell what players face plant, by what their panws do.

For the record, there is an audio cue when they learn something they didn't know.

"Tis a sound strategy masta, I would of never of thought of that! I will have to inform my own master." To which your pawn will say "Truly!?" or something of similarity based on their inclination.

That's the stuff I'm talking about. People thought that was true for the first game too but I think the general consensus ended up being that it was BS.

Pawns pin enemies on their own, they don't need to learn it. I guarantee someone playing completely offline or without renting Pawns will see their maim Pawn doing all those things on their own.

missing the point, they learn from your actions as well,
offline or online does not matter
if you pick up an explosive barrel and throw at enemy, your pawn does it too,
never has he done it before

[Kashra Fall]

Originally posted by Vinnolo:

pawns pinning enemies depends mostly on their inclination, have seen from fighters to mages that just go rabid when they see a goblin 15 meters away and they sprint to pin it down

My pawn's inclination is a kindhearted one and he didn't start pinning enemies until he saw me do it as a thief multiple times. He stayed back and kept his range. He also didn't throw boulders at enemies, but he goes out of his way to do it now because it causes a stagger, etc.

Sure, it might be coincidence, but my pawn from day 1 is completely different than he is now.

[saice]

Funny note. My main pawn has been a melee class for most of the game. Now that im in the 50s levels are slower so I started training the other vocations. It is funny to see them as a mage run up grapple something and just start blasting the basic magic attack at them point blank.

[pRaX]

Originally posted by justfaded:

The first game was BS, right? Pawns don't learn through gameplay with you, right? Was that ever confirmed?

Do people think that system is in place for the sequel?

Yes it's a myth that people on copium just can't accept to shake.
It was never real. Only Knowledge/Star system mattered.
Everything else was just random and wishful thinking.
But here we are. Again.

It's whatever though. Let them enjoy their delusions.

*EDIT*
To clarify, I'm not talking about them learning of locations, loot etc. but behaviour.

[justfaded]

Originally posted by pRaX:

Originally posted by justfaded:

The first game was BS, right? Pawns don't learn through gameplay with you, right? Was that ever confirmed?

Do people think that system is in place for the sequel?

Yes it's a myth that people on copium just can't accept to shake.
It was never real. Only Knowledge/Star system mattered.
Everything else was just random and wishful thinking.
But here we are. Again.

It's whatever though. Let them enjoy their delusions.

*EDIT*
To clarify, I'm not talking about them learning of locations, loot etc. but behaviour.

Yeah figured as much.

[Shadow Wizard Fluffy Gang]

Originally posted by saice:

Funny note. My main pawn has been a melee class for most of the game. Now that im in the 50s levels are slower so I started training the other vocations. It is funny to see them as a mage run up grapple something and just start blasting the basic magic attack at them point blank.

Yeah my pawn constantly climbs things now no matter their vocation as that's my go-to strategy for melee.
So I've found it best to set them to Thief since they get great benefit from climbing enemies then.
It appears they mimic your playstyle slowly over time for sure, I don't set my pawn to warrior anymore because they climb on enemies but aren't effective (they only light attack), meanwhile I've hired warrior pawns that don't climb and prefer to attack directly, which is usually more helpful.

[WonKers]

About half of the Pawn commentary is fake fluff. I have tested by having two different saves and hiring my alt character pawn.
Statements like "I doubt my own master has found such a rare material" or " I will have to remember where...." You found a collectable coin is fluff. What does transfer over from rift travel experience is chest locations, waystone locations and caves you have not entered.

[Insanitor]

The pawns most definitly mimics our behavior. I've had my friends complain about my Pawn being a total manic around crates and will go as far as to High Levin a single crate. Which is totally a tendency she has picked up from me, because I destroy everything in sight 😂

[Cuddle_Rat]

Originally posted by Kashra Fall:

They will also learn not to jump off cliffs if you don't do it lol. You can really tell what players face plant, by what their panws do.

Guilty as charged LOL!! I can't tell you how many times I've faceplanted or had to wakestone from drops while hunting seeker tokens. Almost up to Legion's Might though!