Please stop creating useless Pawns - Guide with reasoning

[Sparetime Gamer]

As the Title says im literally BEGGING the community to stop creating pawns that are more a hindrance than a help. Im going to go through the Points as a sort of Guide


Fighter:

By the Arisen give your Fighter Shield Summons / Shield Drum

Its the Taunt and your Fighter Pawns Job will be to be the Meatshield and Opening Provider for us so we can do our things and to keep the Focus away from the Squishy Mage

Springboard - Please never equip this Skill on your Pawn. They will just hunker down in Combat and do nothing waiting for us to use it, which we wont 9/10 times.

Unfortunately Big Enemies are rare and we fight most of the time against Goblins/Hob Goblins/Bandits/Harpies and their "evolved" Counter Parts in the later Parts of the Game. You just disqualify your Pawn straight up, because they will just stand around being useless while in combat.

The Rest of the Fighter Skills are fine to pick freely, though id welcome a pawn with Airward/Cloudward Slash over one who doesnt have it since its useful against the pesky Harpies

Archer:

Dont equip your Pawn with a Skill that needs a Consumable. Why would you ever expect ME to provide YOUR Pawn all the Tools to be fully operationable?

Skills namely are: Exploding / Tarring / Drenching and Blighting Shot and their Advanced Versions

The Best Setup would be Spiral Shot / Deathly Arrow / Manifold/Torrent Shot and Cascade Shot.

Mage:

Mage is the one that makes me facepalm the most.

Your Mage is there to support us!

Giving it 3 different Weapon Buffs will do nothing but straight up being ruled out.

High Palladium is one of the most useful group spells in the entire Game, followed by but more situational Halidom (cure it all) and Celerity (haste) or their Advanced Versions.

The Most useful Setup that gets your Pawn hired would be:

Flagration OR Levin (Frigor is a Hindrance more than a help) ONE Weapon Buff of your Choice (Fire is the most sought but in the later Game Ice is actually better because a lot of Fire Resistance starts popping up) followed by High Palladium. The last slot should be either Halidom (Cure it all) or Celerity (haste)

Thief:

Relatively Simple just give your Pawns direct attacking Skills. In my Opinion Thief Pawns are not popular, because the Melee Position is often covered by a Fighter and the Arisen.

Warrior:

Just dont. Warriors are painfully slow and the AI is too dumb to actually play into the strengths of it, charging nearly every attack and then hitting air, because a) enemy is already dead or b) enemy is flung away / moved away. It MAY work if they have the taunt (Bellow) But even then its less effective than just getting a fighter pawn.

Sorcerer:

Same as Mage avoid Frigor because its more in the Way than it actually Helps. Pick between Meteor Shower or Hurricane, since Pawns tend to like to cast both and then be exhausted doing nothing (or dying due to not moving)

I personally dont like sorcerer pawns because in combination with a mage pawn they trivialize the game waaaay to much but thats personal taste

Augments:

All Augments are removed if you change the vocation of your Pawn so make sure you equip them!

Moste useful are:

Fighter/ Warrior as a Meatshield

Provocation (Fighter)
Vitality (Warrior)
Endurance (Archer)
Exaltation (Mage)
Beatitude (Mage)
Intervention (Mage)

Archer/Thief/Fighter/Warrior/Mage/Sorcerer as Damage Dealers / Support

Just switch out "Provocation" for "Subtlety" from Thief (less aggro)

For a full support role on mage you maybe you want to use Perpetuation (longer bufftime)


Well thats it from me, feel free to agree or disagree.

[Smug Kot]

You are idiot if you don't give archer pawns arrows and augment are meme weak here, barely make a difference.

[MP]

if you don't like giving my archer pawn his arrows, you can hire a different/weaker one.

[Amon]

Who cares let people create whatever they want. They make them for their games you know

[Maltsi]

I make my pawn for ME and not for you. If it doesn't fit your playstyle, then don't use it.

[Tenoshii]

I suppose if the game was actually hard enough that your Support Pawns needed to be this min-maxed the sentiment of this thread wouldn't so easily fall on deaf ears.

With the Advanced Search features you can do from town, it's pretty easy to find a Support Pawn designed the way you want. No need to try and jedi mind trick people into thinking only a specific subset of skill line-ups are viable.

[Jyggalad]

Hmmmmm... Nah I think I'll make my pawn however I want.

[aliendiplomat]

Nice general guide. I like your picks for mage skills. Mine runs with Ice Affinity, High Palladium, High Levin, and the master skill Celestial Paean which is like a massive dome that grants essentially permanent stamina bars to your whole team for 10+ seconds which is a massive DPS boost.

Sorc I like to run with High Levin too because they almost always emote they are dual casting it with my mage to make it faster casting and stronger, High Seism for the ability to hit magic resistant enemies with heavy physical, Thundermine for area denial CC and damage (I run this instead of either meteor shower or tornado ultimate abilities which are a bit OP and cause a LOT of visual effects) and finally Augural Flare which is a time bomb that explodes for more when it goes off based on how many times you hit the spot it is stuck to before it blows, which is maybe one of the most OP skills in the game when exploited fully.

[-={LG}=-]

Originally posted by Tenoshii:

No need to try and jedi mind trick people into thinking only a specific subset of skill line-ups are viable.

If you're seriously interested in getting your pawn hired as much as possible, it might be prudent to consider what the OP has written.

[opvaskebjørn]

ok but my archer pawn is my pawn and i give my pawn arrows..... i didn't make my pawn to cater to others, i made my pawn to make my team stronger

[Djeeta]

The only skill Sorcerer pawn need is Augural Flare.
If you pick anything else, better just hire a Mage.

[Mikoto]

Um, figor is amazing, it is not a hindrance at all.

[Raven]

I like my fighter to have springboard. It has helped me reach many a chest. Sorry if you don't like it!

[Sparetime Gamer]

Originally posted by Tenoshii:

I suppose if the game was actually hard enough that your Support Pawns needed to be this min-maxed the sentiment of this thread wouldn't so easily fall on deaf ears.

With the Advanced Search features you can do from town, it's pretty easy to find a Support Pawn designed the way you want. No need to try and jedi mind trick people into thinking only a specific subset of skill line-ups are viable.

Actually the game was so easy i had to mod it and make it harder so not everything falls over if i seriously look at it XD

And while it can come across as min maxing its more about general usefulness.

If your Pawn is mostly just standing around doing nothing in combat he is useless i dont know if that is something you want for your own playthrough either

[Tenoshii]

Originally posted by -={LG}=-:

Originally posted by Tenoshii:

No need to try and jedi mind trick people into thinking only a specific subset of skill line-ups are viable.

If you're seriously interested in getting your pawn hired as much as possible, it might be prudent to consider what the OP has written.

Would you mind sharing how you've validated that the OP's view points correspond to higher hire rates for Pawns?

[Mikoto]

Originally posted by Raven:

I like my fighter to have springboard. It has helped me reach many a chest. Sorry if you don't like it!

Yeah, I think this guy seriously doesn't understand that his "guide" is incredibly misinformed about how valuable these other skills are lol

Like dude thinks frigor is trash, it is a massive burst skill that gives you either a platform to leap from or rocks to stagger the enemy. Guy literally has never used the spell right once in his life