Dragon's Dogma 2

Dragon's Dogma 2

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jeem9000 Mar 29, 2024 @ 12:23pm
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Lack of pawn diversity
Every time I am in the rift, the vast majority of human pawns are white females. There's a serious lack of representation in DD2 pawn racial makeup. From my estimation, about 10% or maybe less of the pawns are black. Compare that to the real world, at least 70% of the characters in TV commercials are black? Why such a big disconnect? Do journalists have a point when they say gamers are anti-diversity and anti-representation?
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Scrubwave Mar 29, 2024 @ 1:59pm 
I'm starting to think diversity isn't our strength...
SotiCoto Mar 29, 2024 @ 2:07pm 
Originally posted by jeem1972:
Every time I am in the rift, the vast majority of human pawns are white females. There's a serious lack of representation in DD2 pawn racial makeup. From my estimation, about 10% or maybe less of the pawns are black. Compare that to the real world, at least 70% of the characters in TV commercials are black? Why such a big disconnect? Do journalists have a point when they say gamers are anti-diversity and anti-representation?
There are a few things to consider here:
#1. The ones most likely to make black pawns (and black arisen) are black players. Few black pawns probably means few black players.
#2. Given the game is Japanese, and based on Japanese perception of medieval Europe, chances are that most of the Japanese players (and indeed players in most countries) are just going to make medieval European-looking characters.... OR make Japanese-looking ones, I suppose. Not that you'd necessarily be able to tell the difference visually in-game.
#3. Who even gives a sh!t? You want black pawns? Make black pawns yourself. Problem solved.
Last edited by SotiCoto; Mar 29, 2024 @ 2:08pm
Gage Mar 29, 2024 @ 2:13pm 
#1 Dont care about diversity
#2 10% is pretty representative already
#3 Its a video game
Lyote Mar 29, 2024 @ 2:23pm 
Originally posted by Rosh+:
I pick pawns solely based on level, skills and inclination. In my opinion, it's not too much of a reach to say that the vast majority of pawns are female. The occasions on which I've actually managed to run a full male party incl. my pawn can be counted on one hand vs the uncounted incidents of half and half male/female parties due to my pawn and I being male.

Of course, I only bring this up to corroborate the original post, as I have no issue with it, though it is something I have noticed.

I typically run with a female squad cos I like seeing women doing cool stuff in games.. like my Main Pawn Female Warrior yeeting that fully armored Fighter onto a Cyclops' face so she can go goblin mode on that juicy eyeball... And then have a chuckle when they decide to fistbump when the stabby fighter gets the kill lol

I like to look at Arisen Status when hiring and after my Pawn comes home.
I find it interesting that I've seen a lot of cool looking dark skin Arisens who have white female pawns. XD
There really should be a filter in the internet for sad, angry white men to only see sad, angry white men... oh wait that is using twotter and lies social.
Last edited by tadeos_trollhammer; Mar 29, 2024 @ 2:31pm
jeem9000 Mar 29, 2024 @ 2:39pm 
Originally posted by Lyote:
I like to look at Arisen Status when hiring and after my Pawn comes home.
I find it interesting that I've seen a lot of cool looking dark skin Arisens who have white female pawns. XD

Are you insinuating black gamers prefer to not make black pawns?
Arthur Morrigan Mar 29, 2024 @ 2:42pm 
Originally posted by TechTite:
Originally posted by wesnef:

Because your "70%" claim is vastly exaggerated. Due to observation bias.
(i.e, because you're so focused on racial makeup, you notice ads with black people more. And remember them more. So it feels to you like they're such a majority, when they aren't.)

If only that were true. Unfortunately it's not and commercials overly force feed you diversity now in the opposite direction(aka not real demographics or using demo stats in the nation). I no longer watch TV because of that fact(yes fact). Well that and TV sucks now.
You might be racist and also insane.
Kannarm Mar 29, 2024 @ 2:42pm 
Originally posted by Xeriath:
People tend to create pawns which they find attractive. I am the same here. This should be really not a surprise. Ah.. you just want to troll, I am sorry.

Ohh god I hope not, I made two pawns in the creator tool. One was a old witch looking hag, and the other a tall grey skinned freak called Nosferatu.
Mazzle Dazzle Mar 29, 2024 @ 2:44pm 
Originally posted by jeem1972:
Every time I am in the rift, the vast majority of human pawns are white females. There's a serious lack of representation in DD2 pawn racial makeup. From my estimation, about 10% or maybe less of the pawns are black. Compare that to the real world, at least 70% of the characters in TV commercials are black? Why such a big disconnect? Do journalists have a point when they say gamers are anti-diversity and anti-representation?
Pretty good troll post by citing TV Commercials as the real world as opposed to population distribution statistics.
gotaa Mar 29, 2024 @ 2:46pm 
I prefer it over DD1 where every pawn were suspiciously small girls wearing thongs and nothing else.
Gage Mar 29, 2024 @ 2:49pm 
Originally posted by jeem1972:
Originally posted by Lyote:
I like to look at Arisen Status when hiring and after my Pawn comes home.
I find it interesting that I've seen a lot of cool looking dark skin Arisens who have white female pawns. XD

Are you insinuating black gamers prefer to not make black pawns?
Yeah this statement is true 100 percent!
Void Mar 29, 2024 @ 2:57pm 
Originally posted by Archangel:
I make it a point to not hire female pawns because of all the simps who made them. Now my pawns call me gay every two minutes.
Gae
Usagi-chan Mar 29, 2024 @ 2:58pm 
Why is there no pawn with original skin color like yellow, red or blue ? It's available. There's even green skincolor if you want to create Shrek
Xeriath Mar 29, 2024 @ 3:01pm 
Originally posted by Kannarm:
Originally posted by Xeriath:
People tend to create pawns which they find attractive. I am the same here. This should be really not a surprise. Ah.. you just want to troll, I am sorry.

Ohh god I hope not, I made two pawns in the creator tool. One was a old witch looking hag, and the other a tall grey skinned freak called Nosferatu.

Your sir/mam under the cool pawns. I maybe should i wrote different.

Summary people like to create pawns:
Realistic = Pawns which looking how real people (friends and co inclusive celebrities)
Sexy = Pawns which mostly attractive and push all sexy buttons
Anime = Pawns which looks how a favorite animal character
Furry = Pawns which mostly have an animal backstory
RP = Pawns which have a rich back story
Cool-looking-Badass = Pawns which look just cool
For the lolz = Pepe, Ratman/women all the silly characters
Diverse = Pawns which you can’t clearly assign / or combos from above

All in all, we have a lot of diversity already, just another form of diversity.
Last edited by Xeriath; Mar 29, 2024 @ 3:01pm
Usagi-chan Mar 29, 2024 @ 3:01pm 
Originally posted by gotaa:
I prefer it over DD1 where every pawn were suspiciously small girls wearing thongs and nothing else.
I'll do that when i'll return DD.
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