playing as archer vs the dragon seems so miserable

[GodMan]

Especially when playing on a gamepad. Its nearly impossible to aim at their heart (unless they are stationary) as they constantly move and an auto aim is just terrible. Once it targets head and heart and once it just shoots a tail or a leg. Man, I do manage to kill them, but ♥♥♥♥ it isnt fun at all. And Pawns do ♥♥♥♥ all

[Where'sMySupersuit!!]

I mean if your controller has gyro then its really easy to precise aim with controller.

[The Debauchery]

So play more games where you have to aim a bow with a controller until you get better at it.

It really isn't very difficult once you get used to it.

[Draescan]

If pawns are doing ♥♥♥♥ all vs the dragon you don't have a team for killing dragons. I presume you're talking about magick archer because " auto aim " is non existent on archer.

You have the best tools available for eliminating dragons while staying 100% safe as magick archer. If you don't know what those tools are then you either haven't been paying attention to your pawns screaming its elemental weakness at you, or you have pawns who haven't fought dragons before and aren't ready to.

Get a fighter with counter slash, a mage with ice affinity, preferably with halidom in case you get afflicted, although you shouldn't, and either a sorc or a thief, personal preference. You'll melt them.

[D. Flame]

Try bringing a sorcerer with their nuke skill, a mage with an appropriate elemental buff, and use spiral arrow spam. Then when they do down, spam tempest shot point blank into their heart, especially if you have the ring that increase arrow damage based on proximity to the target. As for your own pawn, make them an archer with the same skills and you, and they will eventually start copying you.

Skills to bring:

Spiral Arrow
Tempest Shot
Death Arrow

Last slot can is preference. Exploding is good if you don't mind carrying the arrows, which I do so I don't. Barrage is what I use. You can use this slot for warfarer. Etc.

[D. Flame]

Originally posted by Draescan:

If pawns are doing ♥♥♥♥ all vs the dragon you don't have a team for killing dragons. I presume you're talking about magick archer because " auto aim " is non existent on archer.

You have the best tools available for eliminating dragons while staying 100% safe as magick archer. If you don't know what those tools are then you either haven't been paying attention to your pawns screaming its elemental weakness at you, or you have pawns who haven't fought dragons before and aren't ready to.

Get a fighter with counter slash, a mage with ice affinity, preferably with halidom in case you get afflicted, although you shouldn't, and either a sorc or a thief, personal preference. You'll melt them.

Your basic attacks, sliding attacks, and follow ups to the kick off all auto aim.

[Draescan]

Originally posted by D. Flame:

Originally posted by Draescan:

If pawns are doing ♥♥♥♥ all vs the dragon you don't have a team for killing dragons. I presume you're talking about magick archer because " auto aim " is non existent on archer.

You have the best tools available for eliminating dragons while staying 100% safe as magick archer. If you don't know what those tools are then you either haven't been paying attention to your pawns screaming its elemental weakness at you, or you have pawns who haven't fought dragons before and aren't ready to.

Get a fighter with counter slash, a mage with ice affinity, preferably with halidom in case you get afflicted, although you shouldn't, and either a sorc or a thief, personal preference. You'll melt them.

Your basic attacks, sliding attacks, and follow ups to the kick off all auto aim.

Then....don't do them? They do 0 damage anyways to dragons.

[GodMan]

Originally posted by Draescan:

If pawns are doing ♥♥♥♥ all vs the dragon you don't have a team for killing dragons. I presume you're talking about magick archer because " auto aim " is non existent on archer.

You have the best tools available for eliminating dragons while staying 100% safe as magick archer. If you don't know what those tools are then you either haven't been paying attention to your pawns screaming its elemental weakness at you, or you have pawns who haven't fought dragons before and aren't ready to.

Get a fighter with counter slash, a mage with ice affinity, preferably with halidom in case you get afflicted, although you shouldn't, and either a sorc or a thief, personal preference. You'll melt them.

Oh I do mean archer and yes there is an auto aim. How can you not know this?

All I'm saying that aiming with an Archer is just terrible. While sole aiming for the heart is probably my lack of skill, though I've got plenty of hours on the controller, the scheme especially seems to be not really adjusted for a tempest shot (or its upgraded version) for a controller, as changing a direction while aiming has to be done with the same hand that you are needed to press "follow up attack" which is hardly comformatable.

[GodMan]

Originally posted by Draescan:

Originally posted by D. Flame:

Your basic attacks, sliding attacks, and follow ups to the kick off all auto aim.

Then....don't do them? They do 0 damage anyways to dragons.

All your skills performed while not aiming manually are auto aimed

[Draescan]

Originally posted by GodMan:

Originally posted by Draescan:

If pawns are doing ♥♥♥♥ all vs the dragon you don't have a team for killing dragons. I presume you're talking about magick archer because " auto aim " is non existent on archer.

You have the best tools available for eliminating dragons while staying 100% safe as magick archer. If you don't know what those tools are then you either haven't been paying attention to your pawns screaming its elemental weakness at you, or you have pawns who haven't fought dragons before and aren't ready to.

Get a fighter with counter slash, a mage with ice affinity, preferably with halidom in case you get afflicted, although you shouldn't, and either a sorc or a thief, personal preference. You'll melt them.

Oh I do mean archer and yes there is an auto aim. How can you not know this?

All I'm saying that aiming with an Archer is just terrible. While sole aiming for the heart is probably my lack of skill, though I've got plenty of hours on the controller, the scheme especially seems to be not really adjusted for a tempest shot (or its upgraded version) for a controller, as changing a direction while aiming has to be done with the same hand that you are needed to press "follow up attack" which is hardly comformatable.

I'm playing archer right now, the only thing that exists is the softlock when you're doing the horribly ineffectual auto attacks that aren't there for damage, it's there to give you something to do while displacing. The kick should be 100% avoided unless you're in danger you should NEVER sprint in to drop kick someone unless it'll knock them down or off a cliff.

The aiming is fine. I use a controller, if you're struggling with it consider changing classes if it's hampering your enjoyment that much. Tempest Shot isn't meant for you to be doing major adjustments mid use, you're supposed to use it on downed targets.

[Game Cooker US Rocks VR]

Combat in DD2 is overall not great and playing an archer is pretty not fun. Archers should be fast and agile and certainly not run out of stamina fast. The delay when shooting is just annoying. Having stamina and weight limits in games is so caveman these days anyway. I don't know why either are in games.

[Draescan]

Originally posted by GodMan:

Originally posted by Draescan:

Then....don't do them? They do 0 damage anyways to dragons.

All your skills performed while not aiming manually are auto aimed

If you're still doing that and repeating this as some sort of justification for it then you're failing to see the point. It's crap damage, stop doing it against tough enemies, that's all you need to know.

[gryphonv]

I switched from Controller to KB/M on archer and it was so much more enjoyable.

Not saying it's the best, but I prefer KB/M

[Draescan]

Originally posted by Game Cooker US Rocks VR:

Combat in DD2 is overall not great and playing an archer is pretty not fun. Archers should be fast and agile and certainly not run out of stamina fast. The delay when shooting is just annoying. Having stamina and weight limits in games is so caveman these days anyway. I don't know why either are in games.

It's more agile and has less downtime than the ranger did in the first game. It's the 2nd most agile class in the game as a matter of fact as it can attack while moving faster than any other ranged class in the game. You only run out of stamina quickly if you're not managing it correctly. Use harspud roborant, gives you like 3/4 of your bar back and it's stupidly easy to make.

If you're not having fun with it try another class. Plenty to choose from.

[D. Flame]

Originally posted by Draescan:

Originally posted by GodMan:

Oh I do mean archer and yes there is an auto aim. How can you not know this?

All I'm saying that aiming with an Archer is just terrible. While sole aiming for the heart is probably my lack of skill, though I've got plenty of hours on the controller, the scheme especially seems to be not really adjusted for a tempest shot (or its upgraded version) for a controller, as changing a direction while aiming has to be done with the same hand that you are needed to press "follow up attack" which is hardly comformatable.

I'm playing archer right now, the only thing that exists is the softlock when you're doing the horribly ineffectual auto attacks that aren't there for damage, it's there to give you something to do while displacing. The kick should be 100% avoided unless you're in danger you should NEVER sprint in to drop kick someone unless it'll knock them down or off a cliff.

The aiming is fine. I use a controller, if you're struggling with it consider changing classes if it's hampering your enjoyment that much. Tempest Shot isn't meant for you to be doing major adjustments mid use, you're supposed to use it on downed targets.

The sliding shot does a decent amount of damage and works like a psuedo-dodge attack.

[Draescan]

Originally posted by D. Flame:

Originally posted by Draescan:

I'm playing archer right now, the only thing that exists is the softlock when you're doing the horribly ineffectual auto attacks that aren't there for damage, it's there to give you something to do while displacing. The kick should be 100% avoided unless you're in danger you should NEVER sprint in to drop kick someone unless it'll knock them down or off a cliff.

The aiming is fine. I use a controller, if you're struggling with it consider changing classes if it's hampering your enjoyment that much. Tempest Shot isn't meant for you to be doing major adjustments mid use, you're supposed to use it on downed targets.

The sliding shot does a decent amount of damage and works like a psuedo-dodge attack.

Once again, not against tough enemies. You're not fighting a goblin. If you're expecting your kicks and auto attacks to do decent damage against something that can cast freakin' bolide I don't know what to tell you.