Brine dragons with warrior

[Naewyng]

Are they impossible? They lower their head and chest for approximately 0.1 milliseconds, and take 0 damage if hit anywhere else

[Chacheya1G]

Yeah, they are not intended to fight on first playthrough i think.

[Naewyng]

Originally posted by Chacheya1G:

Yeah, they are not intended to fight on first playthrough i think.

But I have to kill them in the 4 red circle things.

[Chacheya1G]

Originally posted by Naewyng:

Originally posted by Chacheya1G:

Yeah, they are not intended to fight on first playthrough i think.

But I have to kill them in the 4 red circle things.

The spawn glowing weak spots that look like bubble wrap on the darker part of their bodies. After you pop them all, another section of the body goes dark, and weak points appear. Rinse and repeat.

[93@*&^%jdttk36FGT2d@lt%(fjs569]

Originally posted by Naewyng:

Are they impossible? They lower their head and chest for approximately 0.1 milliseconds, and take 0 damage if hit anywhere else

Do yourself a favor and stop playing Warrior. I was so excited to play Warrior and then I realized they went the Monster Hunter route and nerfed the vocations speed into Oblivion for no reason. Yes you can speed it up but the initial hit is so slow that enemies can literally walk away from you before the hit connects. And the shoulder bash is useless. And combine all that with the terrible movement controls and Warrior is hands down the worst class in the game.

[Rosh+]

Warrior at levels 40+ can solo drakes relatively easily with minimal consumables. You don't need to hit their weakspots as much as you need to knock them over to enable you to hit the weak spots, which is easily done as warrior. Arc of Might will peel 3-4 health bars off of a drake if hit in the heart.

[Naewyng]

Originally posted by 93@*&^%jdttk36FGT2d@lt%(fjs569:

Originally posted by Naewyng:

Are they impossible? They lower their head and chest for approximately 0.1 milliseconds, and take 0 damage if hit anywhere else

Do yourself a favor and stop playing Warrior. I was so excited to play Warrior and then I realized they went the Monster Hunter route and nerfed the vocations speed into Oblivion for no reason. Yes you can speed it up but the initial hit is so slow that enemies can literally walk away from you before the hit connects. And the shoulder bash is useless. And combine all that with the terrible movement controls and Warrior is hands down the worst class in the game.

Yup, my feelings exactly.

it's the most fun to play, but super frustrating against any boss that's faster than a snail, or endgame bosses like the brine dragons.

Just like in dd1, Warrior is the most gimped vocation D:

[Rosh+]

Originally posted by Naewyng:

Just like in dd1, Warrior is the most gimped vocation D:

You can solo BBI as a Warrior in DD:DA.

[Naewyng]

Originally posted by Rosh+:

Originally posted by Naewyng:

Just like in dd1, Warrior is the most gimped vocation D:

You can solo BBI as a Warrior in DD:DA.

You can solo it with any vocation, it's just that the warrior is the worst one.

[Rosh+]

Originally posted by Naewyng:

Originally posted by Rosh+:

You can solo BBI as a Warrior in DD:DA.

You can solo it with any vocation, it's just that the warrior is the worst one.

No, it isn't. I'd argue Fighter is probably more annoying to solo BBI with, because at least with Warrior, you're peeling off 1/4 to 1/2 of a health bar every single time you land a jump attack anywhere.

Warrior in DD:DA is not bad because it's weak, Warrior is bad because it's mechanically bereft and most of it's attack skills in that game are gimmicks. You end up a lot of the time just jump-attacking because all of your other attacks/skills are inefficient and ungodly slow.

Not so in DD2. Many of DD:DA Warrior's attack skills have been worked into the base moveset, and the focus has shifted from solely big damage, to knockdown power -> big damage. If you haven't built your character(gear) to take advantage of that fact, Warrior isn't bad, you're bad at using Warrior.

This will of course change if they ever release anything like BBI in terms of enemy stat bloat, where knockdowns are rare, and player/pawn knockdown resistance is meaningless.

[Naewyng]

Originally posted by Rosh+:

Originally posted by Naewyng:

You can solo it with any vocation, it's just that the warrior is the worst one.

No, it isn't. I'd argue Fighter is probably more annoying to solo BBI with, because at least with Warrior, you're peeling off 1/4 to 1/2 of a health bar every single time you land a jump attack anywhere.

Warrior in DD:DA is not bad because it's weak, Warrior is bad because it's mechanically bereft and most of it's attack skills in that game are gimmicks. You end up a lot of the time just jump-attacking because all of your other attacks/skills are inefficient and ungodly slow.

Not so in DD2. Many of DD:DA Warrior's attack skills have been worked into the base moveset, and the focus has shifted from solely big damage, to knockdown power -> big damage. If you haven't built your character(gear) to take advantage of that fact, Warrior isn't bad, you're bad at using Warrior.

This will of course change if they ever release anything like BBI in terms of enemy stat bloat, where knockdowns are rare, and player/pawn knockdown resistance is meaningless.

I didn't say it's weak, I said it's bad.

In ddda, warrior was by far the worst vocation, capable of doing the least diverse feats, and only excelling in very specific situations.
In fact, the warrior meta in ddda was literally jumping light attack xD

The fact that it could only use 3 skills didn't do it any favors.

DD2 isn't much different. Sure, it has parity with other vocations on the number of skills, but in exchange, now it has literally the most garbage jumping light attack in the game, and a jumping heavy that propels itself forward for some reason (and doesn't always happen, because of course it's not consistent).

But anyway, compared to dd1, dd2's warrior is much better, that's true. But comparing dd2's warrior with any other dd2 vocation (except for trickster, that vocation is IMO trash, and I just consider it a meme vocation xD), it's by far the worst one.

Sure it's a LITTLE BIT faster than dd1, but charging skills is still very slow, and almost every enemy (and especially every boss) is now much faster than they were in dd1, which means that most of the time you won't hit weakspots with your strong attacks. And when you finally do, it's true that you deal insane damage. But the problem is that any other class (except for trickster) would deal twice as much damage in that same amount of time.

Another really bad aspect of warrior is how sh*t it is at hitting while climbing onto an enemy. It doesn't only do low damage, it's also slow as fk.
Which is really annoying, it's what I had to do with the brine dragons that I mentioned in the OP, I had to painstakingly climb onto it and hit the gems on it's back and nape, which couldn't be hit otherwise.
That fight took me about 10 minutes.

Then I hopped on a sorc, R4, and beat the second one in like 2 minutes. My pawns were the same ones, also warrior was R9.

[p00se2]

i play warfarer with warrior main for stagger bonk skills + mystics bubble shield + whatever 4th skill

offers some mobility with mystics bolt dash + defensive bubble shield to protec

dealing with brine dragons was alot easier when switching to mystic weapon

[Chacheya1G]

Thief outclasses warrior (and most of the other vocations to be fair) so much, its laughable.

[Shadow Wizard Fluffy Gang]

Originally posted by Naewyng:

Are they impossible? They lower their head and chest for approximately 0.1 milliseconds, and take 0 damage if hit anywhere else

I don't remember which one it is in the Unmoored world (I assume that's what we're talking about).

But the snake got roflstomped by my warrior because you could gut several nodes with one attack, making it collapse. Then I just walk on top of it to the next section and gut another group of nodes.
Sometimes it'd slither away but all I had to do was just get back on it.
The second Snake I fought I cleared in a couple minutes with that strat.

People criticize Warrior but I think they just don't play to its strengths. Other classes are far easier, as someone who has maxed all but Warfarer, Magic Archer, and Mystic Spearhand; Warrior takes a bit more thought about what your doing and it gets great results.

I fought the regular mutated dragon with Trickster, I didn't have attack buff yet so that took some sitting and waiting around.
Also Trickster is probably the most powerful class in the game, the lvl 2 attack buff seems to almost triple Pawn damage. The only time Trickster suffers is the rare bad monster matchup where Pawns can't figure out how to reach its weakpoints, i.e. Golem sometimes and the aforementioned Snake in the Unmoored world.
Definitely the most boring class though unless you're really into watching your pawns fight.